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Re: Brassica SCA [v1.0.0]

Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2025 4:05 pm
by Darren
bradrn wrote: Sat Nov 08, 2025 2:36 pm Running it right-to-left should do it: try -rtl C r → \.
That has no effect;

categories
C = p t k r
V = i u a
end

-rtl C r → \


gives you aptra > *aprta still.

Re: Brassica SCA [v1.0.0]

Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2025 4:06 pm
by Darren
Also the website's down for me too; I've just got an old tab open which is still running. It half-loaded for me a few hours ago but it was in the wrong font so I reloaded it and then got nothing.

Re: Brassica SCA [v1.0.0]

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2025 4:33 am
by bradrn
Darren wrote: Sat Nov 08, 2025 4:05 pm
bradrn wrote: Sat Nov 08, 2025 2:36 pm Running it right-to-left should do it: try -rtl C r → \.
That has no effect;

categories
C = p t k r
V = i u a
end

-rtl C r → \


gives you aptra > *aprta still.
OK, I believe I know why this doesn’t work: Brassica supports overlapping environments, but not overlapping targets. The output from one rule can’t be used as the input to another application of the same rule (though it can act as an environment for said application). I do have a standing item on my TODO list to change this, but it’s a difficult problem, since you need to avoid e.g. infinite loops.

After some experimentation, the actual incantation required to get this to work is a bit subtle: [C -r]* r → r [C -r]*. Basically, ‘match many non-⟨r⟩ consonants followed by an ⟨r⟩, then put them back in the opposite order’.
Darren wrote: Sat Nov 08, 2025 4:06 pm Also the website's down for me too; I've just got an old tab open which is still running. It half-loaded for me a few hours ago but it was in the wrong font so I reloaded it and then got nothing.
Should be fixed now. A brief power outage in Sydney caused the server to shut down.

Re: Brassica SCA [v1.0.0]

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2025 2:56 am
by Darren
Thanks Brad, that works. The website's back on line too.

Re: Brassica SCA [v1.0.0]

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2026 8:22 am
by Lērisama
The website is giving me a warning about the HTTPS certificate expiring.

Re: Brassica SCA [v1.0.0]

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2026 8:22 am
by bradrn
Lērisama wrote: Thu Feb 05, 2026 8:22 am The website is giving me a warning about the HTTPS certificate expiring.
Ah yes, sorry. Will fix.

EDIT: done

Re: Brassica SCA [v1.0.0]

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2026 8:42 am
by Lērisama
bradrn wrote: Thu Feb 05, 2026 8:22 am
Lērisama wrote: Thu Feb 05, 2026 8:22 am The website is giving me a warning about the HTTPS certificate expiring.
Ah yes, sorry. Will fix.

EDIT: done
Thank you!

Re: Brassica SCA [v1.0.0]

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2026 12:06 pm
by þeprussianfrog
Hello!
The website's currently down for me. Also, is Brassica for PC only available on Windows 10+ versions?

Re: Brassica SCA [v1.0.0]

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2026 12:36 pm
by bradrn
þeprussianfrog wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2026 12:06 pm Hello!
The website's currently down for me.
This was already reported on the GitHub; I’m in another country but will look into it when I get back home.
Also, is Brassica for PC only available on Windows 10+ versions?
I’m not aware of anything which would stop it working on older versions, though I haven’t tested it. (I can’t in any case…)

Re: Brassica SCA [v1.0.0]

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2026 12:37 pm
by Travis B.
þeprussianfrog wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2026 12:06 pm Hello!
The website's currently down for me. Also, is Brassica for PC only available on Windows 10+ versions?
I think it's also available for Linux (you may have to install GHC and compile it yourself, I onno, though).

Re: Brassica SCA [v1.0.0]

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2026 12:44 pm
by bradrn
Travis B. wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2026 12:37 pm
þeprussianfrog wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2026 12:06 pm Hello!
The website's currently down for me. Also, is Brassica for PC only available on Windows 10+ versions?
I think it's also available for Linux (you may have to install GHC and compile it yourself, I onno, though).
Indeed, for Linux there’s an AppImage available.

Re: Brassica SCA [v1.0.0]

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2026 1:14 pm
by Travis B.
bradrn wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2026 12:44 pm
Travis B. wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2026 12:37 pm
þeprussianfrog wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2026 12:06 pm Hello!
The website's currently down for me. Also, is Brassica for PC only available on Windows 10+ versions?
I think it's also available for Linux (you may have to install GHC and compile it yourself, I onno, though).
Indeed, for Linux there’s an AppImage available.
Tis true; not all people are up to the task of installing and using GHC.

Re: Brassica SCA [v1.0.0]

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2026 1:48 pm
by Lērisama
Travis B. wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2026 1:14 pm
bradrn wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2026 12:44 pm
Travis B. wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2026 12:37 pm
I think it's also available for Linux (you may have to install GHC and compile it yourself, I onno, though).
Indeed, for Linux there’s an AppImage available.
Tis true; not all people are up to the task of installing and using GHC.
Yeah, that was a slog.

Re: Brassica SCA [v1.0.0]

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2026 4:51 am
by þeprussianfrog
I only have devices of Android and older Windows, going to test it on the latter today.

Re: Brassica SCA [v1.0.0]

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2026 11:51 am
by þeprussianfrog
At least for me it doesn't run properly on older Windows.

Re: Brassica SCA [v1.0.0]

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2026 2:29 pm
by Lērisama
þeprussianfrog wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2026 11:51 am At least for me it doesn't run properly on older Windows.
What went wrong?

Re: Brassica SCA [v1.0.0]

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2026 5:36 am
by þeprussianfrog
The procedure entry point SystemParametersInfoForDpi could not be located in the dynamic link library C:\Program Files (x86)\Brassica\Qt6Gui.dll.
Checking online, SystemParamtersInfoForDpi is not working on Windows pre-10.

Re: Brassica SCA [v1.0.0]

Posted: Sun May 03, 2026 12:03 pm
by Man in Space
Bug report: using ⟨ɹɨjɹ⟩ as an input works when “Apply” is selected, but does not when “Report rules applied” is selected.

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new categories
V = a ə ɨ ɛ œ e ø i y ʌ ɔ ɤ o ɯ u
W = á ə́ ɨ́ ɛ́ œ́ é ǿ í ý ʌ́ ɔ́ ɤ́ ó ɯ́ ú
C = p t̪ t tʲ k q ʔ p t̪ʰ tʰ tʲʰ kʰ qʰ ɸ θ s ʃ x χ h β ð ɹ l j ɣ ʕ m n̪ n nʲ ŋ ʁ w f
Ÿ = a ə ɨ á ə́ ɨ́
E = ɛ e i ɛ́ é í
Ë = ʌ ɤ ɯ ʌ́ ɤ́ ɯ́
B = ɔ o u ɔ́ ó ú
Ö = œ ø y œ́ ǿ ý
S = p t̪ t tʲ k q ʔ
Ç = pʰ t̪ʰ tʰ tʲʰ kʰ qʰ 0
Š = ɸ θ s ʃ x χ 2
N = m n̪ n nʲ ŋ
D = m n ŋ
T = m̩ n̩ ŋ̩
F = ɸ θ s ɬ ʃ x h
ß = β ð ɹ l j ɣ ʁ
R = m n̪ n nʲ ŋ β ð ɹ l j ʁ ʕ
P = m p pʰ ɸ β
Ḱ = nʲ tʲ tʲʰ ʃ j
K = ŋ k kʰ x ɣ
Q = 0 q qʰ χ ʁ
G = w j ʁ
I = u i a
J = p t k
end

;aspiration loss
qʰ / h
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ɹɨjɹ
qʰəβɹ
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qʰəβɹ → həβɹ (qʰ / h)

Re: Brassica SCA [v1.0.0]

Posted: Sun May 03, 2026 1:53 pm
by bradrn
Man in Space wrote: Sun May 03, 2026 12:03 pm Bug report: using ⟨ɹɨjɹ⟩ as an input works when “Apply” is selected, but does not when “Report rules applied” is selected.
Actually, this is not a bug. No rules were applied to ⟨ɹɨjɹ⟩, therefore no rules were reported.

Still, this situation is clearly confusing. I should add some text explicitly saying that no rules were applied.

(Also… you know category names can be multiple characters long, right? There’s no need for names like ⟨ß⟩ as is necessary in, say, zompist’s SCA².)

Re: Brassica SCA [v1.0.0]

Posted: Tue May 05, 2026 4:44 am
by bradrn
bradrn wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2026 12:36 pm
þeprussianfrog wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2026 12:06 pm Hello!
The website's currently down for me.
This was already reported on the GitHub; I’m in another country but will look into it when I get back home.
Website should be back up now.