Zompist Bboard Again

äreo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 4:00 pm

Imralu wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 8:29 pm Dagadag is onomatopoeic of drums and, in Balog culture, most music consists of drumming and rhythmic chanting.

This is a better onomatopoeia for drums, especially a snare, than parum-pa-pum-pum IMO

Thanks, but I think if you trill your r's, that's not bad for doing a kind of marching band snare thingy. Dagadag is bassier.

Lexember 5:

cnantima
[ˈknantima]
mode, scale, (by extension) key, literally "ladder, set of steps," from cnans step, perch, musical interval, related to cnanten to step (in dance), to lift one's feet and cnarar to climb, mount, board

Mode or key could also be translated by cuást mood, vibe, setting. Pentatonic, heptatonic, and octatonic scales are femmecnante, nemmecnante, and onnecnante. Chromatic scales are ceppecnante "of all steps."

A diatonic mode is (caftemía, cafte-) vossax "(properly) full," more literally "that (properly) fills [intervallic space]." A major scale is semniri "of the sunrise" or xí "bright"; a minor scale is vinniri "of the sunset" or fál [foːl] "dark".

äreo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 4:00 pm

kodé wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:01 pm Σαμχαλης
/š^wum/ ψυμ (verb) “have fun”

“I’m having fun with some friends”
Ιο ψυμπθα ιεδα χοσερ
/io š^wum-tha ie-da k^hos-er/
I fun-pres anim-dat friend-pl

Is this an IE-lang?

Nope, it's a personal artlang, though there's influence from IE langs and some of the lexicon is a posteriori. And I use Greek orthography for it, though there's no Greek at all, besides some isolated word inspiration.

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I did this yesterday, but I'm only posting it now, and there's no time for me to do another one today. Le sigh ... grumble, grumble, adulting ...

12/4-5 M : "drum"

Old Sanhr
/dm-dm/ “drum” (mimetic noun root)
[dõmdõm]

“The woman is hitting this drum”
[ˈ sɐrku tẽn ˈ peikas ˈ dõmdõns mo]
/srk-u tn pak*I-a-s dmdm-s mo/
woman-nom the hit*I-non.past-indic drum-acc this


Tl’acho
/tl’oongw/ “drum” (incorporated noun root)

“My maternal uncle wants to design a drum (he told me)”
[tɬ’óóˈ gwéèjʌ̃ʌ̃tɬʌ̃̂gwo waˈ déédzige]
/tl’oongw-(i)xwej=e:-n-lhe^-v^kw w-(a)deedz-g/
drum-design=opt-non.past-3.sgA-near.audit 1.sgO-mat.uncle-top


Σαμχαλης
/dumbe/ (noun) “drum”

“This kid found a drum on the side of the street”
σε ˈ κιν ˈ προμφε ˈ δυμβε λαττα τα ˈ ραν
/se kin prom-phe dumbe lat-da ta ran/
this child find-past drum side-dat the street

Lexember 5

Proto-Aretian
*ḷahaamiuŝq̆u
wild-prepare-string

Wengal (NB I think I actually mean this language to be Old Aivan ‒ Wengal is a closely related sub-family):
ɣaijəveuqú-
adj. flat (music);
vt. to tune flatter (intentionally);
vr. to let go of one’s concerns, to relax, to take one’s eye off the ball

Old Iozhi
llaiańučú-
adj. (of music) using scales with low or non-raised intervals;
adj. relaxed;
vt. to set free
vr. to relax

llaiańučuívits
n. dance performed in honour of the god Xíon to invoke freedom, set to music with low or non-raised intervals

Lexember 4. Carrying

haˀ, carry.
behaˀ, give.
niːhaˀ, bring.
parhaˀ, take out, bring out, reveal.
lehaˀ, put (in).
kibhaˀ, bring over, ferry.
hahaˀ, offer, carry up.
ʒenhaˀ, carry downwards.

Lexember 6:

toëllo, séarima, (séare) víl
[ˈtwɛlːu, ˈsɛːɾima, ˈsɛːɾɛ viːl]
"limb, member," "set of notes," "line (of notes)"
melody, musical phrase, motif

més
[mjɛs]
"accord, agreement" (related to méren to agree (with), be good)
harmony

whitta cnans
[ˈʍɪtːa knans]
"short step"
half-step, semitone

gaela cnans
[ˈŋaːla knans]
"long step"
whole step, whole tone

gaegalla cnans
[ˈŋaːŋalːa knans]
"overlong step" (with reduplication of gael)
augmented second (three semitones)

Lexembers 5. & 6. Instruments.

driˀʒ, a drum.
ʃa-ral, to hit.
rlas, to beat.

qwi:r a flute.
heˀʁ, to blow.
leheˀʁ, to blow into.

driˀʒ rlas, to play (a) drum(s).
qwi:r leheˀʁ, to play a flute.

Hallow XIII wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 9:46 am Lexembers 5. & 6. Instruments.
qwi:r a flute.
heˀʁ, to blow.
leheˀʁ, to blow into.

This inspires me.

Lexember 7:

whír
[ʍiːɾ]
to blow, puff, exhale

sýr
[syːɾ]
to whistle (similar to sír to hiss)

cippir
[ˈcɪpːɪɾ]
to pluck, pick (from cíp fingernail)

pittir
[ˈpɪtθɪɾ]
to tap, press on a key, type (related to pit dot, pip, fingerprint)

Lexember 8:

nixis, nixiri
[ˈnɪksɪs, ˈnɪksɪɾi]
string (related to nixir or nictir to tighten)

cýber or nixima
[ˈcyːbɛɾ, ˈnɪksɪma]
"pelican, ibis" or shortening of nixissima "set of strings"
guitar

pestat, pestanda
[ˈpɛstat, ˈpɛstanda]
key (of an instrument), button, switch ("touched," from pestar to touch, tap, press; related to pesto push, nudge, impulse and perhaps pést coin via a related verb or old usage press --> stamp)

pteura
[ˈpθɛuɾa]
keyboard ("keys," from rare singular pteps, perhaps formed by an anagram game from pest- or related to ptínir to point, pinpoint, specify)

sýtýs or thínucca
[ˈsyːtyːs, ˈθiːnʏkːa]
"whistle-bone" or "reed, little stalk"
whistle, flute, pipe

6

vuzum "sing" (in a rhythmic chanting way)

7

halailam "sing" (in a melodic way) (probably a loanword)


8

tsuwaz "be tempo" (from tsu "quickly"; -az abstraction suffix indicating degree)

9

duwuduh "dance", "be a dancer" (male style of dancing)
lasan "dance", "be a dancer" (female style of dancing)

Lexember 9:

themalíma or themaprás
[ˈθɛmaliːma, ˈθɛmaproːs]
"music-type" or "music-custom"
style, genre

Lexember 10:

Last day of Music Week.

whossor or fétor
[ˈʍɔsːɔɾ, ˈfjɛtɔɾ]
"speed," literally "fast-being" (the gerunds/infinitives of stative verbs are often equivalent to our -ness)
tempo

eócet (séar)
[ˈjøːkɛt]
"joined (sound)," from eócen to join, related to eóc share, lot, interest
chord

wrámbir
[ˈvroːmbɪɾ]
to strum
Almost certainly onomatopoeic (compare English strum, Finnish rämpyttää), Bulgarian дрънкам), but some scholars consider it a lexicalized inchoative of wráir to grow. I'm doubtful.

Lexembers 7. & 8. Singing & Dancing

jok, to sing.
gjoˀt, a song.
kreːŋ, a finger. Metaphorically, from flute-playing: a tone, a note.
eʒbjaˀl ~ ʃebjaˀl, a limb, a member.
ʃebjaˀl gjoˀt, a melody, a tune.

mluj, a dance.
ramli:n, to dance.
remramli:n, to dance back and forth, to dance wildly.

Lexembers 9. & 10. Rituals


jokjok, ŋojkjok, to chant.
zliˀq, a ritual to propitiate the spirits.
qaːhaˀn, an offering.
gjoˀt qaːhaˀn, "a song and a sacrifice", a ceremony.
qwiːr hahaˀ, "to offer a flute", to play sacred music.

Lexember 11:

Food and drink time.

seocolat
[ˈʃɔkulat]
chocolate

Seeing as the Msérsca lands do not have native cacao trees, they are most likely to have learned of chocolate through me. Literally every language on earth that has a word for chocolate uses something that derives from Nahuatl via Spanish, so we have quite a precedent here. Mór brown, nep seed, nut, bean, and ístit delicacy might figure into other names they develop for it.

Lexember 11. Eating

koʃ, to eat.
hoˀj, food.
ʒenkoʃ, eat up.
qakʃan, a meal.

4

play a drum:
Proto-Tshyak: dədom [dədɤm] (ipfv.)
Old Zlang: dôŋ [dɔˤɴ] (ipfv.)

5

play a wind instrument, whistle:
Proto-Tshyak: sew [sew] (ipfv.)
Old Zlang: sew [sɤw] (ipfv.)

6

bang an object:
Proto-Tshyak: bak [bak] (ipfv.)
Old Zlang: bak [bɑʔ] (ipfv.)

7

rub two objects together:
Proto-Tshyak: zəzin [zəzin] (ipfv.)
Old Zlang: zin [zin] (ipfv.)

8

clap (one's hands):
Proto-Tshyak: pəpok [pəpɤk] (ipfv.)
Old Zlang: pôk [pɔˤʔ] (ipfv.)

9

jangle an object:
Proto-Tshyak: kəkik [kəkik] (ipfv.)
Old Zlang: kîk [kɤˤʔ] (ipfv.)

10

ring a bell:
Proto-Tshyak: təten [təten] (pfv.), tətin [tətin] (ipfv.)
Old Zlang: tên [tɛˤɴ] (pfv.), tîn [teˤɴ] (ipfv.)

Lexember 12:

cot, conda
[kɔt, ˈkɔnda]
egg, eggs

clussir
[ˈklʏsːɪɾ]
to crack, break; share, distribute; succeed, be victorious

Ári pendrimis cot clussicoësto.
[ˈoːɾi ˈpɛndrimɪs kɔt ˈklʏsːiˌkwɛstu]
one-GEN hand.PL-INSTR egg crack-can-1S
I can crack an egg with one hand.

Lexember 13:

I'm recovering from food poisoning, so let's riff on that.

xípa
[ˈksiːpa]
poison, venom, pathogen

From this we can get xípar to poison, poisoning and xípaédea infection, poisoning. Namat béret xípa would be food-borne pathogen. We could also say namande xípaédea "poisoning of food(s)."