).*finlay. Yiuel wasn't in the last one.Moose-tache wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:58 amYeah, I vaguely remember Yiuel doing Japanese in the last telephone game as well.
Eh, even with a two-week deadline, we can still send it in earlier anyway!Based on vijay's comment, I'm wondering if a two week deadline is too long.
But yeah, last time, we had only three days each, and even then, we did it in a week with (one team of) ten people.
Lol, that may be part of the stuff that just doesn't translate well into Turkish.I suspect what's happened is that the passage vijay got is deceptively "easy," but full of things that will trap the unwary (unless vijay's translation has leveled all that out
So is every variety of Chinese I can think of (despite the invention in the previous century of gender-specific characters that are still pronounced identically), whereas the other languages all have gender-specific pronouns. I think it's possible to guess which pronoun refers to which character, though.Moose-tache wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:20 amYou know, I didn't realize until just this moment that the very first link in Team 2 is a language with gender-neutral pronouns. This is going to be interesting.
If it helps at all, you can see whether we got your message by seeing whether the message you sent is still in your outbox or moved to "Sent Messages." If we haven't read it, it'll be in your outbox; if we have, then it'll be in "Sent Messages."Also, just so I don't have to say it every time: when you get a message from me, please give me a response so I know that you received it and plan to get it done within the deadline.
Almost four years ago, shortly after I joined (the old forum, of course)
A passage from Crime and Punishment by Dostoevsky, first translated by the host into French and then translated from French to Latin before you translated it to Japaneselet alone what I translated.
Where are we in terms of the chain? Who currently has the text in each team?
If you access KQ it gives you a choice between the new one and the archived one that was overrun by spam - click the archived oneVijay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:38 pm How do you manage to see the intermediate translations? Do you need a KneeQuickie account? Because I can't see any of them, but I don't have one...
I tried to make my translation into English a literal but idiomatic translation of my translation into Turkish. I believe I did the same thing last time (except from Croatian to English instead of from Turkish to English).
EDIT: Also:Where are we in terms of the chain? Who currently has the text in each team?
On the one hand, I think this could potentially make the game less fun; on the other hand, I also think trying to come up with the best translation possible could actually make the final product even more messed up! For example, if I had to translate the sentence "I know a song that gets on everybody's nerves" into Malayalam, and I knew that someone else had to translate my Malayalam into Mandarin Chinese, my Malayalam translation might be more literally translated as 'I know a song that climbs on everybody's head'. However, while 'climbs on everybody's head' is a perfectly idiomatic expression in Malayalam similar in connotation to 'gets on everybody's nerves' in the original English, it's not necessarily the best translation into Malayalam. More likely, we'd just say something like 'I know a song that nobody likes' in Malayalam, but a translation like this would probably distort the final translation even more.Moose-tache wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:40 am My official stance is that you should do everything in your power to make a clear and coherent product. That means no deliberately translating idioms literally unless you think the result still makes sense, no using ancient punctuation if it will make the result nearly untranslatable, and no copying over typos or formatting mistakes. Pretend you're a translator who's actually trying to do a good job.
That said, I can't tell you what to do, and everyone is free to use their own judgment.
The last time we did this, I found that some of the more interesting mistakes came from idiomatic expressions that were unfamiliar to the participants. This is to be expected when we're stretching ourselves a bit and using languages we're not all that fluent in.Vijay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:45 amOn the one hand, I think this could potentially make the game less fun; on the other hand, I also think trying to come up with the best translation possible could actually make the final product even more messed up! For example, if I had to translate the sentence "I know a song that gets on everybody's nerves" into Malayalam, and I knew that someone else had to translate my Malayalam into Mandarin Chinese, my Malayalam translation might be more literally translated as 'I know a song that climbs on everybody's head'. However, while 'climbs on everybody's head' is a perfectly idiomatic expression in Malayalam similar in connotation to 'gets on everybody's nerves' in the original English, it's not necessarily the best translation into Malayalam. More likely, we'd just say something like 'I know a song that nobody likes' in Malayalam, but a translation like this would probably distort the final translation even more.
