Innovative Usage Thread
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Ah, I was used to the colloquial sense being negative.
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This has been going on for a while, and I've seen both positive and negative uses. For example, someone "being extra" might be acting dramatically or doing things that are unnecessary, and depending on tone, the person saying it could be somewhat impressed or extremely annoyed. I'd say extra is more akin to "elaborate, over the top, grandiose, dramatic" and is often a compliment from a friend and an insult from a stranger (tho even then someone saying "oh my god! you're so extra! I love it!" is probably being sincere.)
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I have never, ever heard or seen this usage of extra before I saw it here.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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Confirmation (if any were needed) that Travis has no gay friends IRL.
I don't think I've ever heard it used truly complimentarily. At best there's an implied "but we still love him despite that".linguistcat wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:38 pm This has been going on for a while, and I've seen both positive and negative uses. For example, someone "being extra" might be acting dramatically or doing things that are unnecessary, and depending on tone, the person saying it could be somewhat impressed or extremely annoyed. I'd say extra is more akin to "elaborate, over the top, grandiose, dramatic" and is often a compliment from a friend and an insult from a stranger (tho even then someone saying "oh my god! you're so extra! I love it!" is probably being sincere.)
Yesterday while out shopping I did see a line of Barbie dolls with the label "EXTRA". I'm not exactly sure what they were signifying with that, though.
(Link: https://barbie.mattel.com/shop/en-us/ba ... xtra-dolls.)
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Guilty as charged. I have lesbian relatives (one on each side), but I am not close to them at all personally.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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It might be worth noting that not all gays speak that way.
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Nektht you're going to be thaying that we don't all lithp either!Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:14 pmIt might be worth noting that not all gays speak that way.
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I thought that was only a massive misconception!Linguoboy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:46 pmNektht you're going to be thaying that we don't all lithp either!Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:14 pmIt might be worth noting that not all gays speak that way.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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Perhaps I'm an anomally.
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American gays are too lazy to learn Polari, so we just lisp really hard so the cops won't know what we're saying.
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I'd never heard of Polari till just now.
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It's just silly slang between me and the boys in my gang. You wouldn't understand; good folks like you never do.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piccadilly_PalareRounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 7:07 pmI feel like I'm missing a reference to something here.
I learned about Polari in the 90s from one of the experts on it at the time, who had compiled an online lexicon. The song made much more sense after that.
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I just pictured an online lexicon made by an academic in the 90s, and it made my brain hurt. I assume it used frames?
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Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
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Youngsters in El Salvador these days are saying "bajón" for a big, filling meal in a group, say during lunch hour at work, and "bajonear" for the act of going for a bajón.
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I overheard a dentist's assistant ask another dentist's assistant: "Wie schnell dauert das?", literally something like "How fast does it take?"
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Question would be whether this is really an innovative usage or just a one-time slip between the two constructions Wie lang dauert das? und Wie schnell geht das?.
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Last night I used "anycase" as an adverb parallel to "anyway", e.g. "anycase I won't be there". I hesitated for a moment before omitting the "in" but I realised I wouldn't naturally use it in speech in that context.