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bradrn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 05, 2025 12:32 amI’m glad to hear my software helped!

I’m glad you wrote and published it!

bradrn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 05, 2025 12:32 amThe domain should be fixed shortly.

Understood.

bradrn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 05, 2025 12:32 am

Man in Space wrote: ↑Sat Jul 05, 2025 12:10 amThe feted c of Maltese also just looked…wrong when applied to CT.

Somali, surely? Maltese uses ⟨għ⟩.

You are correct, thank you for the correction.

bradrn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 05, 2025 12:32 am

Also, because (I think it was in one of the LCKs where I saw this) some languages, like Basque, can encode information about the listener on the verb, I did something similar with Kgáweq’.

The term is ‘allocutive agreement’.

Thank you again.

I have had cause to revisit my in-progress reference grammar of CT, and to my surprise the document so far is at 53 pages (there’s some pages that are covers, front matter, &c., obviously, but still, a surprise—though a welcome one).

I also had cause the other day to recall a project I’d not done much with: The Oido languages.

The Oido languages are endemic to a major island, that of Oi, which is to the southeast of the modestly-sized shamrock-looking landmass:



I’ve briefly spoken about them in a prior post. The main takeaways:

• There was a group there, at least at one time, called the Woy,
• This term ultimately goes back to a form *oi-do ‘inhabitants of the island’, and
• Reflexes included Woy [woj], Valo [valo], Unu [unu], Yer [jeɹ], and Ajau [adʒaw].

The concept for the languages ultimately goes back fifteen years or so, when I first started conlanging. The name “Oido” sounded cool to me, and I had it in mind that it was a (C)V language. I also did some experimentation with allophony. I specifically remember that the language had lenition rules involved and that /g/ elided completely when intervocalic, and that since all words obligatorily began with a consonant, the gV character could stand in for the initial-less onsets, when present, of noninitial syllables and the language could technically be analyzed as obligate CV, as a word could not begin with a vowel and as /gV/ could be coöpted for when no onset surfaced.

On a much more recent note, I read about the highly interesting vowel inventory of Nez Perce, and thence found the source proper. TL;DR: the vowel quality space is /æ i a o u/, with two harmonious sets, /i a o/ (dominant) and /i æ u/ (recessive). Yes, /i/ can be either. The situation is kind of described as the dominant set having the tongue in a somewhat retracted position overall (it’s specifically called out that the /o/ is actually quite high). The two sets are maximally distant per se—/æ i u/ (triangle) is essentially T3-, as is /a i o/—between themselves; /i/ just happens to be the “pivot point”.

I have done something similarly with Oidonese: /æ e i u/ ~ /ɑ æ i o/. These are romanized ä e i u and a æ ı o—basically, dots = fronted. These are the fronted and retracted sets, respectively.

Another thing about Oidonese is that the vowel harmony triggers consonant harmony. What I’m looking at at this stage, more or less, is:

/m mʷ n nʲ ŋ ŋʷ/ m mw n ny _{⅁ ⅁}w
/p pʷ b bʷ t d tʲ dʲ k kʷ g gʷ ʔ/ p pw b bw t d ty dy k kw g gw ’
/s ʃ χ h/ s sh j h
/ɬ/ ll (the idea being this came from earlier *θ)
/χʳ ~ ʀ̆/ ř
/ɾ ɹ/ r ŕ
/ɺ l/ l ł

With the following caveats:

g gʷ > Ø w / V _ V
æ u ɑ o > e i æ i / [+cons +ro] _ (the idea being that the vowels dissimilated to make the roundedness of the [w] more distinct)
t d tʲ dʲ > tɬ dɮ tʃ dʒ / _ V_f
k kʷ g gʷ > q qʷ ɢ ɢʷ / _ V_r

I'm on lunch now but I would like to get this down before I forget.

Man in Space wrote: ↑Wed Aug 27, 2025 10:22 am I also had cause the other day to recall a project I’d not done much with: The Oido languages.

Ooh, this looks nice

The Oido languages are endemic to a major island, that of Oi, which is to the southeast of the modestly-sized shamrock-looking landmass:

I can't see a shamrock-looking landmass myself; which one do you mean? Maybe the one to the southwest?

The concept for the languages ultimately goes back fifteen years or so, when I first started conlanging. The name “Oido” sounded cool to me, and I had it in mind that it was a (C)V language. I also did some experimentation with allophony. I specifically remember that the language had lenition rules involved and that /g/ elided completely when intervocalic, and that since all words obligatorily began with a consonant, the gV character could stand in for the initial-less onsets, when present, of noninitial syllables and the language could technically be analyzed as obligate CV, as a word could not begin with a vowel and as /gV/ could be coöpted for when no onset surfaced.

Surely obligate CV is the obvious analysis here – where is a consonant not obligatory? Admittedly not on the surface, but if other lenition processes are going on, I'm not sure why you'd ever analyse it as (C)V, unless you had a particular aversion to theorising unrealised consonants.

Lērisama wrote: ↑Wed Aug 27, 2025 3:41 pm

Man in Space wrote: ↑Wed Aug 27, 2025 10:22 amThe Oido languages are endemic to a major island, that of Oi, which is to the southeast of the modestly-sized shamrock-looking landmass:

I can't see a shamrock-looking landmass myself; which one do you mean? Maybe the one to the southwest?

No, upper left:

The concept for the languages ultimately goes back fifteen years or so, when I first started conlanging. The name “Oido” sounded cool to me, and I had it in mind that it was a (C)V language. I also did some experimentation with allophony. I specifically remember that the language had lenition rules involved and that /g/ elided completely when intervocalic, and that since all words obligatorily began with a consonant, the gV character could stand in for the initial-less onsets, when present, of noninitial syllables and the language could technically be analyzed as obligate CV, as a word could not begin with a vowel and as /gV/ could be coöpted for when no onset surfaced.

Surely obligate CV is the obvious analysis here – where is a consonant not obligatory? Admittedly not on the surface, but if other lenition processes are going on, I'm not sure why you'd ever analyse it as (C)V, unless you had a particular aversion to theorising unrealised consonants.[/quote]I don’t. I think I just worded it a little strangely.

Anyway, after some further refinement:

Old Oidonese

Vowels

Vowels come in two sets, to wit advanced (/æ e i u/) and retracted (/ɑ æ i o/), which alternate as below:

/æ e i ʉ~u/ ä e i ou ~ /ɑ æ i o/ a æ ı o

Morphemes are natively advanced or retracted; that is to say, on their own, morpheme-internal vowels will all be of the same (either the one or the other) root position. A single word may have a number of affixes or morphological processes applied to it and it will still surface entirely in a harmonic form. In these cases, the first morpheme “wins” and governs the entire rest of the word. This is reflected in the romanization, with the affix given in its “native state” (e.g., muıbuı is natively in the retracted set and killi in the advanced one).

Consonants

/m mʷ n̪ nʲ ŋ ŋʷ/ m mu n nj ng ngu
/p pʷ b bʷ t̪ d̪ ts dz tʲ dʲ k kʷ g gʷ ʔ/ p pu b bu t d ts dz tj dj k ku g gu ’
/s ʃ h hʷ/ s sh h hu
/ɬ/ ll (ultimately from earlier *θ, q.v. with the allophony)
/j χʳ~ʀ̆ ʢ/ y rh rg
/ɾ ɹ/ rd r
/ɺ l/ ld l

Allophony

g gʷ > Ø w / V _
{u,o} > i / {Cʷ,w} _ (the idea being that the vowels dissimilated to make the roundedness more distinct)
t̪ d̪ ts dz tʲ dʲ > tɬ dɮ tʃ dʒ tʃ dʒ / _ {i, u_f}
b(ʷ) d̪ dz dʲ > β ð z j / V_f _
p pʷ > h hʷ / _ {i_f,e_f}
k kʷ g gʷ > q qʷ ɢ ɢʷ / _ V_r

The allophonic realizations have their own spelling conventions:

/g gʷ/ [Ø w] Ø w
/ʉ~u~o/ [i] ü
/t̪ d̪ ts/tʲ dz/dʲ/ [tɬ dɮ tʃ dʒ] tl dl ch j (yes, it’s inconsistent, but it’s intuitive and looks nice)
/b(ʷ) d̪ dz dʲ/ [β ð z j] b(u) d z y
/p pʷ/ [h hʷ] wh whu
/k kʷ g gʷ/ [q qʷ ɢ ɢʷ] q qu g gu (v.s.)

Back to Ye Olde Trivocalic-Root Language for a bit. This may be a bit basic or uninteresting but I wanted to get it out there before I tarried too long with other aspects of it.

The trivocalic project is exactly what it sounds like. Instead of roots with three consonants, have roots with three vowels. I was attempting to do some math about it earlier and I ultimately went a little deeper into it than that.

This language (provisionally “3V”) has ten consonants, as follows:


The nonzero consonants have a stupendous range of realizations. Typically, the allophones are voiced when two voiced sounds are around them; to a first approximation, occlusives are voiceless by default and continuents and vowels are voiced by default. There’s some caveats and exceptions here, but that would be tedious to have to go through every single time, so I will just give the allophones’ realizations and you can operate under the assumption that the voicing is predictable along those lines.

• The occlusives
  • The dental occlusive D, generally [t̪ d̪]
  • The alveolar occlusive T, generally [t d]
  • The palatal occlusive J appears as [ɲ] before nasal vowels and otherwise shows up as [tʲ ~ tʃ] or [dʲ ~ dʒ] in free variation (affrication does seem more common before front and/or high vowels)
  • The peripheral occlusive K depends on whether rounding applies or not. If it does not, it is [n] before nasal vowels and [k g] otherwise; if it does, then it is [m] before nasal vowels and [p b] otherwise.
  • The laryngeal occlusive 7 assimilates to an immediately preceding consonant, prestops a following nasal, and otherwise surfaces as [ŋ] in nasal environments and [ʔ] in non-nasal ones.
• The continuants
  • The dental continuant 3 is pretty much always [ð] except before high vowels, in which case it is [d̪ð]
  • The alveolar continuant L is [l] except before high vowels, in which case it is [dz]
  • The palatal continuant Y varies between [s ~ ʃ ~ ç] or [z ~ ʒ ~ ʝ]
  • The peripheral continuant X is subject to intense variation: following a nasal vowel or a resonant consonant, you’ll get anything from [ŋ ~ g ~ g^ʀ ~ ʀ ~ ɢ^ʀ ~ q^ʀ ~ q], it appears as [h̪͆] before a rounded vowel, and failing either of these, you can expect to find [ɣ ~ ɰ ~ ʁ].
  • The laryngeal continuant H devoices a preceding vowel when final, devoices a preceding sonorant, and otherwise shows up as [h].

I kind of want to give this a sort of Franco-Arabic feel for completely arbitrary reasons.

D: [t̪] th
T: [t] t
J: [tʲ] dj, [ɲ] gn
K: [k] c/qu, [n] n, [p] b, [m] m
7: [ʔ] ’ (or null initially), [ŋ] ng(u), [ː] ~, [^bm ^dn ^ɟɲ ^gŋ] bm tn cgn cng
3: [ð] d, [d̪ð] dh, [n̪d̪ð] ndh
L: [l] l, [dz] dc, [ndz] ndc
Y: [s ~ ʃ ~ ç ~ z ~ ʒ ~ ʝ] ch (geminated sch), [ndʒ] ndg(e)
X: [ŋ ~ g ~ g^ʀ ~ ʀ ~ ɢ^ʀ ~ q^ʀ ~ q] g(u), [h̪͆] f, [ɣ ~ ɰ ~ ʁ] r
H: [V̥h] Vh, [R̥h] Rh, [h] h

There's a few bits of extra stuff.

• When two coronal occlusives at different POAs stand together, the first one becomes an affricate: -TJ- [-stʲ-], -JD- [-tʃt̪-].
• Initially and preceding an occlusive, the continuants become simple fricatives: 3T- [θt-], X7- [xʔ-], LK- [sk-/sp-], HJ- [htʲ-].
• Triconsonantal or larger clusters—which, while not exactly common, do occur sometimes due to the existence of the zero-grade—are broken up with an epenthetic ê/ô inserted after the second consonant: -LXK- [-lgɛg-/-lgɔb-], 3TKL- [θtɛgl-/θtɔbl-].
• There's a few remarks to be made regarding e and é. Basically, I'm leveraging the fact that u never begins a multigraph and that e only begins a few, of which most are front vowels anyway and thus would trigger softening already, and am going full Académie Française with the use of these two letters as soft/hard markers and embracing the e-and-i-equals-automatic-spirantization-whist-u-does-not thing.
• The sequence -XK-, when both elements are nasal, is written -guen-. The sequence -XeK- is written -guén-.
• [dzy] is written dceu; [dzɯ] is written dcéu. Similarly, [ndʒy] is written ndgeu, whilst [ndʒɯ] is written ndgéu.
• Final [e] is written é because it just doesn't look right without it.

This also necessitates changing v to û (see below). Hopefully the circumflex will get the point across, and I didn't want too much a variants everywhere.

The vowels are basically 22, plus the zero-grade, with roundedness being treated as a binary suprasegmental rather than as a defining feature:

1. /əª əº/ [ɛ~e ɔ~o].
2. /ɜª ɜº/ are both generally realized as either [ɜ] or [ə], with no actual rounding on the vowel (unless a labial precedes). The adjacent consonant(s) nonetheless surface as their rounded forms when applicable.

Let’s have a few romanized examples:

√ą-û-ou πL-T-XY [lɑ̃dʌʁʒu] lątûrchou
√ęu-ä-ûeu πK-YK-T [nɯ̃ʃkædʌ^ɯ] nęuchcätûeu
√aou-ei-ęi πY-T-7-X [ʃɑ^udeⁱŋæ̃ⁱg] chaouteinguęig
√ai-û-e π3-7-L-K [ðɑⁱʔʌlek] dai’ûlec
√û-eui-ęi πH-K-7-7º [hobu^yŋœ̃^yŋ] hobouünguęüng
√a-ûeu-i πL-3-3-7º [lɔðo^ud̪ðyʔ] loadoöudhu’
√į-eu-e πX-TL-Jº [ʁỹndzudʲœ̃^y] rųndceoudjoe
√į-eu-û πL-K-7J-D [dzĩkɯʔdʲʌt̪] dcįque’uedjûth
√ai-Ø-i πJ-T-3 [dʲɑⁱz̪d̪ði] djaisdhi
√ęi-ęi-eu π3-X-7 [ðæ̃ⁱgæ̃ⁱŋɯ] dęiguęingueu
√aou-ûeu-ä πL-L-X-T [lɑ^ulʌ^ɯʁæt] laoulûeurät
√ê-i-er πT-X-Tº [tɔh̪͆ytɜ] tôfutœ
√ei-ei-aou π7-37-L-X [ʔeⁱððeⁱlɑ^uʁ] eiddeilaour
√Ø-e-ê πT-L-X [tsleʁɛ] tslerê
√a-i-i πT-L-X [tɑdziʁi] tadciri
√a-eu-ä πT-L-X [tɑdzɯʁæ] tadcéurä
√i-i-Ø πT-L-X [tidziʁ] tidcir
√a-ä-e πT-L-X [tɑlæʁe] taläré
√eu-a-i πK-T-Lº [pudɔdzy] boutoadceu

It's hideous. I love it.

Nasalized vowels are no longer written using ogoneks but postconsonantal m n. e is used for forcing a coda nasal. Also, What was ê/ô is now ai/au. To avoid a hash collision, what was ai is now aï. Also, more silent and accented e/é for maximum Frankness.

For citing roots and forms in this trivoc, we use the format √ × π—√ for the root, π for the pattern/form, e.g. √aou-in-a × π3-J-X = daoutjinga.

Some more orthographic tests

√aoun-aï-aoun-iº × ^K-Y-K = [mɔ̃^uʒɔ^ymɔ̃^uʃ] moaunchoaümoaunch
√e-ei-aoun × ^T-T7-X-7 = [tetteⁱʁɑ̃^uŋ] tetteiraounngue
√ûi-Ø-ei × ^X-L-K = [ʁʌⁱlgeⁱ] rûilquei
√aou-in-a × ^3-3K-7-T = [ðɑ^uðŋĩŋɑt] daoudnguingat
√i-ai-eui × ^K-3-7 = [kiðɛʔɯⁱ] quidai’eui
√en-Ø-aoun × ^H-X-L = [ŋæ̃glɑ̃^u] nguenglaoun
√äi-ä-ä × ^3-K-XX-Xº = [ðœ^ybœh̪͆h̪͆œʁ] deübäuffäur
√ûi-Ø-ei × ^L-LK-Y = [lʌⁱlgɛʒeⁱ] lûilquêchei
√i-ai-eui × ^H-K-D = [higɛd̪ɯⁱ] hicaitheui

Roots & Forms

3V is, in essence, the inverse of Semitic triconsonantal morphology; the roles of the vowels and consonants have been essentially switched.

Roots

As one might expect from the name, the typical root in 3V is trivocalic. These are generally described as being of the form

√U-W-Z(-&)

where:

• U, W, and Z are any vowel or diphthong,
• any one of U, W, or Z can be zero, but only one,
• if both U and Z are nasal, then W must be as well,
• & is one of a restricted set of vowels, to wit /ɑ ɑ̃^u ɜ i ĩ ɯ/, and
• & can only appear if the F slot on a form (q.v.) exists to support it.

The language is considered triliteral and not quadriliteral; & is relatively rarely found, and the way it behaves has led to conjecture that it’s the remnant of a derivational or grammatical modifier, that it’s the fossil of an s-mobile-like process, that they are the aftereffects of taboo deformation, or that some, all, or none of the above is correct.

Forms

The form in 3V is applied to the root by inserting specific consonants and sequences thereof. Forms in 3V are typically of the structure

πA-BC-DE-F^R

where:

• A through E can be any single nonzero consonant,
• F may be one of /J 7 3 Y X H/,
• C, E, and F may be zero, and
• ^R is the roundedness parameter /ª º/.

For convenience, the unroundedness parameter /ª/ is typically assumed and thus unwritten unless necessary.

There is a very restricted class of forms where A is zero. In these cases what happens is that, if the vowel is a monophthong, it becomes the glide that corresponds to its POA and roundedness; diphthongs just turn the offglide into a glide.

Form structure constraints

• A dental consonant and an alveolar consonant cannot come consecutively in the form—i.e., ^XDT ^XDL ^X3T ^X3L ^XTD ^XT3 ^XLD ^XL3 ^XD-T ^XD-L ^X3-T ^X3-L ^XT-D ^XT-3 ^XL-D ^XL-3. They can occur if there's an intervening consonant, e.g. D-X-T D-XT-.
• Two laryngeal consonants cannot adjoin, either within a form slot or across consecutive slots—i.e., ^X77 ^X7H ^XH7 ^XHH ^X7-7 ^X7-H ^XH-7 ^XH-H. Similarly, if there’s another consonant between, you can get these in the same form.
• Bill Bellichick.
• A form cannot consist of three of the same consonant.

This will ruin the tour, and greatly restrict the number of valid forms (and their shape)…but I think I actually want that—on the cyanotypes, it’s basically the inverse of Arabic, which has six full vowels (standard T3 vowel system plus length) as against 28 consonants for its roots, whereas here we have ten consonants as against 44 (plus zero) for the roots in 3V. It would simplify things immensely on multiple levels with crafting this thing if I could get rid of a bunch of valid roots for some (plausible) reason/mechanism.

Combining Roots and Forms

As you've no doubt gathered, you have to fill out the form in triplicate (at least) to get to the root of it; alternatively, you have to form the root into a word. This wordplay is stupid but I felt like writing it.

Typically, the roots are denoted with a √; the forms are denoted with a ^. You can represent the process as a pseudoequation:

√ × ^ = [ the word ]

For instance:

√ä-ai-a × ^T-K-7 = [tægɛʔɑ] täcai’a
√i-û-a × ^H-T-Y = [hidʌʒɑ] hitûcha
√ein-in-in × ^D-3-X = [t̪æ̃ⁱd̪ðĩqĩ] theindhinguin

Some forms are fairly common or, to some degree, predictable.

^X-K-TK- – produces stative verbs
√aou-eun-î > raoumeuntquî [ʁɑ^umɯ̃tkɜª] ‘to remain, to stay, to wait’
√ai-ä-i > raicätqui [ʁɛgætki]
√eui-i-û > reuiquitcû [ʁɯⁱgitkʌ]
√ûi-en-a > rûinguętca [ʁʌⁱŋẽtkɑ]

D-X-T ~ D-XT-7- – collective and singulative
√aou-eun-î > thaouréuntî [t̪ɑ^uʁɯ̃dɜª] ‘the world’ (< ‘all that which remains [even if we do not]’) ~ thaourndeun’î [t̪ɑ^uʁdɯ̃ʔɜª] ‘territory, territorial route’
√ai-ä-i > thairäti [t̪ɛʁædi] ~ thairtä’i [t̪ɛxtæʔi]
√eui-i-û > theuiritû [t̪ɛʁɯⁱʁidʌ] ~ theuirti’û [t̪ɛʁɯⁱxtiʔʌ]
√ûi-en-a > thûiręta [t̪ʌⁱʁẽdɑ] ~ thûirten’a [t̪ʌⁱʁdẽʔa]

L-KX-T-Y – locative
√aou-eun-î > laoumefeuntîch [lɑ^umh̪͆ɯ̃dɜªʃ]
√ai-ä-i > laicrätich [lɛgʁædiʃ]

K-K7-3 – toponym
√aou-eun-î > caoummeundî [kɑ^ummɯ̃ðɜª]
√ai-ä-i > caiccädhi [kɛkkæd̪ði]
√eui-i-û > queuicquidû [kɯⁱkkiðʌ]
√ûi-en-a > cûicquenda [kʌⁱkkẽða]


An experiment I may regret…

[lɑ^umh̪͆ɯ̃dɜªʃ] laoumefeuntîch
[t̪ɑ^uʁɯ̃dɜª] thaoureuntî
[ʁʌⁱŋẽtkɑ] rûinguentca? rûinguéntca?
[t̪ɑ^uʁdɯ̃ʔɜª] thaourteun’î
[t̪ʌⁱʁẽdɑ] thûirenta
[t̪ʌⁱʁdẽʔa] thûirten’a
[lʌⁱlgɛʒeⁱ] lûilcaichei


Miscellanea

Traditionally, /ɜª ~ ɜº/ is dubbed the “poison vowel” because of the extent of what its effects do to words.

Man in Space wrote: ↑Sat Oct 04, 2025 4:18 pm

I would normally say that these are lovely, but imgur is now refusing to load images in the UK¹, so I shall just infer it.

¹ I don't believe they've said why, but it's almost certainly to do with the online safety act.

Lērisama wrote: ↑Sat Oct 04, 2025 4:39 pm

Man in Space wrote: ↑Sat Oct 04, 2025 4:18 pm

I would normally say that these are lovely, but imgur is now refusing to load images in the UK¹, so I shall just infer it.

¹ I don't believe they've said why, but it's almost certainly to do with the online safety act.

Same here. I could use my VPN to Australia to view them, but it’s not set up on my phone…

I’m sure they are beautiful and I’m enthusiastic to see them, but am in the same boat as the others, unfortunately. (The same is true of your signature.)

thats a lot of neat info on a series of cool maps.


to help out, I put them on my Discord for while they're inaccessible to most here; here you go:

https://discord.com/channels/1110662488 ... 8787271764

this *should* be both of them...one i saved as a JPEG file, the other as a PNG file.

At band practice so I can’t devote too much time here atm, but thank you keenir!

keenir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 12:46 pm thats a lot of neat info on a series of cool maps.


to help out, I put them on my Discord for while they're inaccessible to most here; here you go:

https://discord.com/channels/1110662488 ... 8787271764

this *should* be both of them...one i saved as a JPEG file, the other as a PNG file.

It may be that I don’t know how to use Discord, but this link doesn’t work for me. But thank you still!

sasasha wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 7:07 pm

It may be that I don’t know how to use Discord, but this link doesn’t work for me. But thank you still!

Looks to me like you simply have to be a logged in Discord member to look at it. Unless Discord is keeping people in the UK from looking at it now, too. What, exactly, do you see if you click on the link?

Raphael wrote: ↑Mon Oct 06, 2025 6:03 am

sasasha wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 7:07 pm

It may be that I don’t know how to use Discord, but this link doesn’t work for me. But thank you still!

Looks to me like you simply have to be a logged in Discord member to look at it. Unless Discord is keeping people in the UK from looking at it now, too. What, exactly, do you see if you click on the link?

“No text channels. You find yourself in a strange place. You don’t have access to any text channels or there are none in this server.”

I’m logged in, but on a browser version rather than the app, which may be the issue, I guess.

Huh. OK, I don't know anything about Discord, so I have no idea what that means. Thank you anyway.

Let’s see if this works…

It does work for me, and I don't even have a Discord account, never mind being logged in.

Alas, Discord links expire after a certain number of days. If you want, however, I could host them on my own server.

bradrn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 06, 2025 9:37 am Alas, Discord links expire after a certain number of days. If you want, however, I could host them on my own server.

If you would like to, that would be most gracious.