Zompist Bboard Again

rotting bones wrote: ↑Thu Nov 06, 2025 4:24 pm

bradrn wrote: ↑Thu Nov 06, 2025 4:11 pm Well, I certainly wouldn’t call myself a ‘neoliberal’: for one thing I believe that regulation is often extremely important, whereas neoliberals (insofar as I understand their position at all) tend to strongly dislike it.

No one does. Regardless of their rhetoric, the smart "neoliberals" tend to support certain kinds of regulations. This is how they differ from idealistic libertarians. However, they selectively use regulations to strengthen market discipline instead of challenging it for the betterment of the weakest sections of society. This enshrines the exploitation of the poor into law.

Travis B. wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 9:11 am

rotting bones wrote: ↑Thu Nov 06, 2025 4:24 pm

bradrn wrote: ↑Thu Nov 06, 2025 4:11 pm Well, I certainly wouldn’t call myself a ‘neoliberal’: for one thing I believe that regulation is often extremely important, whereas neoliberals (insofar as I understand their position at all) tend to strongly dislike it.

No one does. Regardless of their rhetoric, the smart "neoliberals" tend to support certain kinds of regulations. This is how they differ from idealistic libertarians. However, they selectively use regulations to strengthen market discipline instead of challenging it for the betterment of the weakest sections of society. This enshrines the exploitation of the poor into law.

The thing is by equating bradrn's political beliefs with neoliberalism you effectively ascribe political beliefs to him that he may not have simply on the basis of that neoliberals are commonly called 'centrist' and bradrn also describes himself as a centrist. On this basis you could call broad swaths of the population 'neoliberal' simply because they aren't right-wing but aren't consciously left-wing either.

Man in Space wrote: ↑Thu Nov 06, 2025 9:03 pm I got vaccinated (COVID, flu, hepatitis B) yesterday and I’m paying for it today.

Travis B. wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 9:05 am

Ares Land wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 2:09 am
Oh, this might be of interest to most people on the board. I try to keep up with most of the conlang scratchpads. Your work certainly isn't newbie-ish. It's generally hard to interact on the conlanging thread, because most of them are like, great work, and it's hard to say anything but 'I'd like to see more of that'


It's easier to react to the politics! The politics threads here are usually very interesting. They tend to get a bit overheated, but that's true of all political discussions, and to be expected as people are knowledgeable and pretty clear on what they stand for. I think most everyone can learn something from them, I certainly did.

I agree -- when I do read the scratchpad threads I often find them interesting but I don't really know what to add to them (even though admittedly I tend to avoid reading walls of text).

Ares Land wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 9:28 am Oh, FWIW the best example of a neoliberal is Macron (who isn't against government regulation).

Ares Land wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 9:28 am He also will never use the word. Libéral (neo- part optional) is almost an insult in French.

Travis B. wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 9:32 am I assume you mean French French and not Canadian French here (considering that their main center-left party is the Liberal party).

Ares Land wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 9:36 am

Travis B. wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 9:32 am I assume you mean French French and not Canadian French here (considering that their main center-left party is the Liberal party).

As spoken in French, yes! Usage of libéral in Quebec must be interesting if there's any European French influence there at all.

Travis B. wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 9:48 am Apparently the provincial Parti libéral du Québec is more centrist than the federal Liberal party, at least according to the Wiki.

Ares Land wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 9:54 am

Travis B. wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 9:48 am Apparently the provincial Parti libéral du Québec is more centrist than the federal Liberal party, at least according to the Wiki.

I don't know about now, but as I recall the PLQ was, in fact, neoliberal under Jean Charest.

Raphael wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 9:27 am

Man in Space wrote: ↑Thu Nov 06, 2025 9:03 pm I got vaccinated (COVID, flu, hepatitis B) yesterday and I’m paying for it today.

Get better! (I'm assuming that by "paying", you mean unpleasant physical symptoms.)

Raphael wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 11:51 am Is anyone else kind of weirded out or creeped out by the contrast between the content of this Irish Times article and the specific photo of the person the article is about which they chose to illustrate the article? Not sure whether this even qualifies as banality of evil:

The Irish Times: Ballet teacher who sexually abused young girls is jailed for seven years

https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/co ... ven-years/

Travis B. wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 12:05 pm

Couldn't they've chosen something like a mugshot?...

Raphael wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 12:13 pm

Travis B. wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 12:05 pm Couldn't they've chosen something like a mugshot?...

I dunno whether Ireland does mugshots. Publicly available mugshots seem to be largely a US thing. But yes, that was more or less my first thought, too.

zompist wrote: ↑Thu Nov 06, 2025 5:26 pm You claimed that the board would go back to "Nazism". The ZBB is not a corporation or even some kind of cooperative. It's my personal forum, so your accusation is an attack on my personal integrity, as well as the admin work that keeps the board relatively benign.

Man in Space wrote: ↑Thu Nov 06, 2025 4:48 pm Alice: Thanks to my new laptop, I have brought my sound-change applier into the 20th century with modern programming techniques and methods.

alice wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 3:16 pm

Man in Space wrote: ↑Thu Nov 06, 2025 4:48 pm Alice: Thanks to my new laptop, I have brought my sound-change applier into the 20th century with modern programming techniques and methods.

Don't put words into my mouth, man I'm still trying!

alice wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 3:16 pm

Man in Space wrote: ↑Thu Nov 06, 2025 4:48 pm Alice: Thanks to my new laptop, I have brought my sound-change applier into the 20th century with modern programming techniques and methods.

Don't put words into my mouth, man I'm still trying!

alice wrote: ↑Sat Jul 19, 2025 2:59 pm Thanks to my new laptop, I have brought my sound-change applier into the 20th century with modern programming techniques and methods.