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Coda /n/ > nasalization

[ɪ̃ ˈnã:ˈtĩ ˈsɪksti e:t ˈstudə̃t ˈpro:ˌtɛsts ˌɪˈrʌptɪd ɔl əˈkrɔs ðə ˈwɛstə̃r wɜrld. ðe: wɜr ˈspɪrˌhɛdɪd ba: jʌŋ ˈpipəl hu rɪˈbɛld əˈgɛ̃st ðɛr ˈpɛrə̃ts ˌʤɛnəˈre:ʃə̃]

In 1968 student protest erupted all across the Western world. They were spearheaded by young people who rebelt against their parents generation

[ɪ̃ ˈnã:ˈtĩ ˈsɪksti e:t ˈstudə̃t ˈpro:ˌtɛsts ˌɪˈrʌptɪd ɔl əˈkrɔs və ˈwɛstə̃r wɜrld. Ve: wɜr ˈspɪrˌhɛdɪd ba: jʌŋ ˈpipəl hu rɪˈbɛld əˈgɛ̃st vɛr ˈpɛrə̃ts ˌʤɛnəˈre:ʃə̃]

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• Loss of terminal voiceless stops, stop + [s] > [sː];
• Terminal nasal vowels eject a coda [m];
• Coda [p b l] > [w]
• Glottalisation of medial and final [d t] when not the initial of a stressed syllable or in contact with another consonant;
• Those rebellious students begin to use an informal spelling that drops some of the now-silent consonants, and regularises a few others:

Proper:
In 1968 student protest erupted all across the Western world. They were spearheaded by young people who rebelled against their parents generation.

Informal:
Im nineteem sis'ty eigh' studen' protes's erupted oll across the wessern world. They wer spearhedded by yung peple who rebeld agens' their parens' generashem.

[ɪ̃m ˈnã:ˈtĩm ˈsɪs.sti e: ˈstu.ʔə̃m ˈpro:ˌtɛsː ˌɪˈrʌwtɪʔ ɔl əˈkrɔs və ˈwɛs.sə̃r wɜrld || ve: wɜr ˈspɪrˌhɛ.ʔɪʔ ba: jʌŋ ˈpipəw hu rɪˈbɛwʔ əˈgɛ̃sː vɛr ˈpɛrə̃sː ˌʤɛnəˈre:ʃə̃m]

• rn {lː,rl} → ɲ ʎ
• ʤ v w h j → t͡ʃ f ʋ k h
• u(:) o(:) ʌ(:) ɔ(:) → ɯ(:) u(:) ɤ(:) o(:)

Proper:
In 1968 student protest erupted all across the Western world. They were spearheaded by young people who rebelled against their parents generation.

Informal:
Im nineteem sis'ty eigh' studen' protes's erupted oll across the wessern world. They wer spearhedded by yung peple who rebeld agens' their parens' generashem.

[ɪ̃m ˈnã:ˈtĩm ˈsɪs.sti e: ˈstɯ.ʔə̃m ˈpru:ˌtɛsː ˌɪˈrɤʋtɪʔ ol əˈkros fə ˈʋɛs.sə̃r ʋɜʎd || fe: ʋɜr ˈspɪrˌkɛ.ʔɪʔ ba: hɤŋ ˈpipəʋ kɯ rɪˈbɛʋʔ əˈgɛ̃sː fɛr ˈpɛrə̃sː ˌt͡ʃɛnəˈre:ʃə̃m]

• Loss of nasalisation of vowels not immediately preceding nasal consonants;
• [aː eː uː] > [əɑ iəɛ əʉ]
• Loss of intervocalic and terminal glottal stops, in the latter case with compensatory lengthening of the preceding vowel; vowels in hiatus may develop excrescent [j w];
• Loss of terminal, and some medial, schwa, with compensatory lengthening of preceding vowels;
• Loss of gemination;
• [ɤʋ əʋ] merge with [əʉ]
• Remaining [ə] > [ɐ] except where nasalised or in diphthongs;
• [f] > [h]
• The informal orthography develops further, taking some influences from Dutch and German, in solidarity with similar protests in Europe (also a few analogical spellings are introduced).

Proper:
In 1968 student protest erupted all across the Western world. They were spearheaded by young people who rebelled against their parents generation.

Informal:
Im naantiem sistie eich stuem protess irotid oll akross tha wessarn world. They wer spierhedded by jung piepo whu rebeeld agens theer parens tjeenreichschem.

[ɪ̃m ˈnəɑˈtĩm ˈsɪs.ti iəɛ ˈstɯ.wə̃m ˈprəʉˌtɛs ˌɪˈrəʉtɪː ol ɐˈkros hɐ ˈʋɛs.sɐr ʋɜʎd || hiəɛ ʋɜr ˈspɪrˌkɛ.jɪː bəɑ hɤŋ ˈpipəʉ kɯ rɪˈbɛːʋ ɐˈgɛsː hɛr ˈpɛːrs ˌt͡ʃɛːnˈriəɛ.ʃə̃m]

• Hiatus resolution with compensatory lengthening, mainly with [ə] dropping out.
• Coda nasals drop out after nasalised vowels.
• ʎd > ʎɟ
• Protests are past news, so orthography mostly reverts back to the original one.

Proper:
In 1968 student protests erupted all across the Western world. They were spearheaded by young people who rebelled against their parents generation.

Informal:
In naanteen sixty eigh stuent protests iruted oll across the Western world. They wer speerhedded by young peeple who rebeeld agens there parents cheenreeshn.

[ɪ̃ ˈnɑːˌtĩ ˈsɪs.ti jɛː ˈstɯ.wə̃ ˈprʉːˌtɛs ˌɪˈrʉːtɪː ol ɐˈkros hɐ ˈʋɛs.sɐr ʋɜʎɟ || hjɛː ʋɜr ˈspɪrˌkɛ.jɪː bɑː hɤŋ ˈpipʉː kɯ rɪˈbɛːʋ ɐˈgɛːs hɛr ˈpɛːrs ˌt͡ʃɛːnˈrjɛː.ʃə̃]

• Denasalisation of nasal vowels;
• Diphthongation of long vowels: [ɑː ɛː jɛː ʉː ɪː] > [ɑɯ iɛ iɛi ʉɯ ɛi]
• Coda [ʎ l ŋ ʋ] > [i ɯ ɯ]
• [ie ɜi ɤɯ] > [iɛ ɛi ʉɯ]
• [ɜ ə] > [ɐ]
• [ɛ] > [iæ] before [r]
• [t t͡ʃ h k g] > [c͡ɕ c͡ɕ ç c ɟ] before [i j]
• Internet culture begins to emerge, and with it a set of informal spellings (somewhat based on the rebellious old ones) begins to enter use; the tendency to replace words with single letters, however, does not occur in this timeline.

Proper:
In nineteen sixty-eight, student protests erupted all across the Western world. They were spearheaded by young people who rebelled against their parents' generation.

Informal:
I nautie sistie eigh stuwa protess iruwted oi across the Wessar weild. They war speerhedded bau yuw peeple who rebiewd agienss hier piers tienrieischn.

[ɪ ˈnɑɯˌc͡ɕi ˈsɪs.c͡ɕi jɛi ˈstɯ.wɐ ˈprʉɯˌtɛs ˌɪˈrʉɯtɛi oi ɐˈkros hɐ ˈʋɛs.sɐr ʋɛiɟ || çjɛi ʋɐr ˈspɪrˌkɛ.jɛi bɑɯ hʉɯ ˈpipʉɯ kɯ rɪˈbiɛɯ ɐˈɟiɛs çiær ˈpiærs ˌc͡ɕiɛnˈrjɛ.ʃə]

• h c͡ɕ → x t͡ʃ
• ç x → x ʃ
• s → t͡s / #_V, _i, _ɪ
• ə æ ɛ ɑ → ɐ ɛ e ɔ
• V¹V² > V¹ː / except where V¹ is /i/ or /ɪ/.
• ei ʉː ʉ ɯ(ː) → iː yː ø u(ː)
• p → b

Proper:
In nineteen sixty-eight, student protests erupted all across the Western world. They were spearheaded by young people who rebelled against their parents' generation.

Informal:
I nautie sistie eigh stuwa protess iruwted oi across the Wessar weild. They war speerhedded bau yuw peeple who rebiewd agienss hier piers tienrieischn.

[ɪ ˈnɔːˌt͡ʃi ˈt͡sɪs.t͡ʃi jiː ˈstu.wɐ ˈbryːˌtes ˌɪˈryːtiː oi ɐˈkros ʃɐ ˈʋes.sɐr ʋiːɟ || xjiː ʋɐr ˈsbɪrˌke.jiː bɔː ʃyː ˈbibyː ku rɪˈbieː ɐˈɟies xiɛr ˈbiɛrs ˌt͡ʃienˈrje.ʃɐ]

• Long vowel breaking — [ɔː iː yː eː ieː] > [uɛ ai yi iɛ iɛi]
• [j ɟ xj rj] > [ʑ ʑ ɕ j], except directly after consonants
• [r] > [j] after consonants; > [ɥ] in labial environments
• [yi] > [iː] after [ɥ]
• [x t͡ʃ b] > [ɕ c͡ɕ ɸᶣ] before [i y j]
• A Sinitic adstratum provides a few new loanwords in colloquial language (but which are not accepted by authorities).

Proper:
In nineteen sixty-eight, student protests erupted all across the Western world. They were spearheaded by young people who rebelled against their parents' generation.

[ɪ ˈnuɛˌc͡ɕi ˈt͡sɪs.c͡ɕi ʑai stu.wɐ ˈɸᶣɥiːˌtes ˌɪˈryitai oi ɐˈkros ʃɐ ˈʋes.sɐr ʋaiʑ || ɕai ʋɐr ˈsbɪrˌke.ʑai buɛ ɕyi ˈɸᶣiɸᶣyi ku rɪˈbiɛi ɐˈʑies ɕiɛr ˈɸᶣiɛrs ˌc͡ɕienˈje.ʃɐ]

Informal:
I nautie sistie eigh xusheng protess iruwted oi across the Wessar weild. They war speerhedded bau qinianren who rebiewd agienss hier piers tienrieischn.

[ɪ ˈnuɛˌc͡ɕi ˈt͡sɪs.c͡ɕi ʑai ˈɕy.ʃɐ ˈɸᶣɥiːˌtes ˌɪˈryitai oi ɐˈkros ʃɐ ˈʋes.sɐr ʋaiʑ || ɕai ʋɐr ˈsbɪrˌke.ʑai buɛ c͡ɕi.niɛ.rɐ ku rɪˈbiɛi ɐˈʑies ɕiɛr ˈɸᶣiɛrs ˌc͡ɕienˈje.ʃɐ]

Enough xD

What next.

There's a sample of Dothraki with IPA on Wikipedia:

[ˈnevaxi ˈvexa ha maˈan ˈrekːe ˈmaɾesakea ˈnoɾeθi ˈfitːe]
<Nevakhi vekha ha maan: Rekke, m'aresakea norethi fitte.>
seat.gen exist.3sg.pres for 3sg.all there.acc with.coward.all.pl hair.gen short
There is a place for him: There, with the short-haired cowards.

Why not?

• [a.a] > [ɑː ] > [oː]
• Loss of medial [x]
• Resulting [ai ea] > [æː eː] > [aː iː]
• Loss of unstressed short vowels preceding long vowels;
• Loss of short vowels more than one syllable away from the stress, with compensatory lengthening of preceding vowels;
• Intervocalic [v] > [w]

Newā vî ha môn: Rekke m'areskī norēth fitte.
[ˈne.waː ˈviː ha moːn ˈrek.ke ˈmaɾeskiː ˈnoɾeːθ ˈfit.te]
seat.gen exist.3sg.pres for 3sg.all there.acc with.coward.all.pl hair.gen short
"There is a place for him: There, with the short-haired cowards."

Unstressed final vowels turn into schwa

Newā vî ha môn: Rekke m'areskī norēth fitte.
[ˈne.wɘː ˈviː hɘ moːn ˈrek.kɘ ˈmaɾeskiː ˈnoɾeːθ ˈfit.tɘ]

Has anyone done an Almean language yet?

(BTW I'd love to see how Dothraki turns out.)

• Loss of schwa
  • After stressed open syllables, with compensatory lengthening of the preceding vowel;
  • In unstressed structure words, attaching the consonant of that structure word to the beginning of the next word;
  • After a geminate, with loss of gemination, but no compensatory lengthening;
• [eː iː oː] > [je ei ue]
• [hm] > [m̥]
• [nj rj] > [ɲ ʎ]
• [f] > [ç] before [i]

Nyew vei h'muen: Rek m'areskei nolyeth hyit.
[ˈɲewː ˈvei m̥uen ˈrek ˈmaɾeskei ˈnoʎeθ ˈçit]
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Who is able to provide a Sanskrit sentence or two with a gloss?

Who might be able to provide a sample with a gloss for the next round? It might be in a conlang

Otto Kretschmer wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 2:25 pm Who might be able to provide a sample with a gloss for the next round? It might be in a conlang

Aren't we on Dothraki right now? Also, for the next one, perhaps

WarpedWartWars wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:32 pm Has anyone done an Almean language yet?

Let's do Verdurian:

Piro

father-nom

esë

I-gen

e

be-pres.3s

fascotene

busy-m.nom

uestu.

man-nom

E

be-pres.3s

so

the-m.s

sanno

lord-nom

Buyelei,

Buyel-gen

im

in

dáluan

kingdom-dat

Verdúrë.

Verduria-gen

Eluá,

behold!

mun

you-pl.dat

racontretu,

tell-fut-1s

er

and

lelmo

see-fut-1s

tal

so

fascotene

busy-m.nom

e.

be-pres.3s

/ˈpi.ɾo ɛˈsjɛ ɛ fa.skoˈtɛ.nɛ ˈwɛ.stu ‖ ɛ so ˈsan.no buˈjɛ.lɛj | im ˈda.lwan vɛɾˈdu.ɾjɛ ‖ ɛˈlwa | mun ɾa.konˈtɾɛ.tu | ɛɾ ˈlɛl.mo tal fa.skoˈtɛ.nɛ ɛ/
My father is a busy man. He is the lord of Buyel, in the kingdom of Verduria. Here, I will tell you, and you will see how busy he is.

From there:

1. Stressed /ɛ/ tenses to /e/.
2. Unstressed monophthongal /i o u/ lax to /ɪ ɔ ʊ/.
3. Word-final /ɛ ɔ/ merge with /ɪ ʊ/.
4. Word-initial and intervocalic /j w/ become /ʒ v/.
5. /sj/ coalesces into /ʃ/.

/ˈpi.ɾʊ ɛˈʃe ɪ fa.skɔˈte.nɪ ˈve.stʊ ‖ ɪ sʊ ˈsan.nʊ bʊˈʒe.lɛj | ɪm ˈda.lwan vɛɾˈdu.ɾjɪ ‖ ɛˈlwa | mʊn ɾa.kɔnˈtɾe.tʊ | ɛɾ ˈlɛl.mʊ tal fa.skɔˈte.nɪ ɪ/
Piro esë e fascotene uestu. E so sanno Buyelei, im dáluan Verdúrë. Eluá, mun racontretu, er lelmo tal fascotene e.

• Sequences of [s] + stop shift so that [s] is the coda of the preceding syllable;
• Vowels in open stressed syllables are lengthened;
• Vowel mutations triggered by the following vowels;
• Terminal unstressed vowels reduce to schwa; after long vowels in open syllables in words of more than three syllables are lost; [ij] > [jə].

[ˈpyː.ɾə eˈʃeː ə føs.køˈtiːn ˈvøs.tə ‖ ə sə ˈsɔn.nə byˈʒiː.ljə | əm ˈdaː.lwan vøɾˈdyː.ɾjə ‖ aˈlwaː | mʊn ɾø.kønˈtɾøːt | ɛɾ ˈløl.mə tal fø.skøˈtiːn ə]
Pühre escheh e föscötihn vöste. E se sonne büzhihlye, em dahluan Vördührye. Aluah, mun röcöntröht, er lölme tal föscötihn e.