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Re: Maybe pruning?

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:16 pm
by zompist
I'm trying something: removing guest access. I notice that when getting errors, guest logins are at 50 or 100 or more. I expect most of those are bots. Let's see what happens...

Edit: It doesn't remove the problem, but I feel it's better? Earlier today I had to refresh a page half a dozen times to see it.

Re: Maybe pruning?

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:55 pm
by bradrn
zompist wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:16 pm I'm trying something: removing guest access. I notice that when getting errors, guest logins are at 50 or 100 or more. I expect most of those are bots. Let's see what happens...

Edit: It doesn't remove the problem, but I feel it's better? Earlier today I had to refresh a page half a dozen times to see it.
It’s still at 100 guests for me… and on further investigation, it appears that guests can still access verduria.org, they just don’t see any forums. If the number of accesses is the problem, I can see why doing that wouldn’t help.

Re: Maybe pruning?

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:21 pm
by zompist
What I meant was that guests can't see the forums, which means they can't spend their time hoovering up posts.

At the moment I can access the board fine. Fingers crossed.

(Edit, to keep testing if nothing else. Why do supernatural entities care if our fingers are crossed?)

Re: Maybe pruning?

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:32 pm
by bradrn
zompist wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:21 pm At the moment I can access the board fine. Fingers crossed.
As can I, at the moment. But a few minutes ago I couldn’t.

(You know, it would be really convenient if there were some way to access the server logs…)

Re: Maybe pruning?

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:02 pm
by Raphael
Seems to work fine right now, once you log in, thought the main page still shows a lot of guests visiting.

Re: Maybe pruning?

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:29 am
by Raphael
Still working greatly. Perhaps there could be some kind of warning on the main page, something like "Don't panic, the ZBB hasn't gone away, it's just that it's only visible to people who are logged in now"?

Re: Maybe pruning?

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 8:00 am
by bradrn
Raphael wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:29 am Still working greatly. Perhaps there could be some kind of warning on the main page, something like "Don't panic, the ZBB hasn't gone away, it's just that it's only visible to people who are logged in now"?
I second this.

Re: Maybe pruning?

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 9:43 am
by WeepingElf
bradrn wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 8:00 am
Raphael wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:29 am Still working greatly. Perhaps there could be some kind of warning on the main page, something like "Don't panic, the ZBB hasn't gone away, it's just that it's only visible to people who are logged in now"?
I second this.
Thirded. Before trying, I thought the ZBB had melted down.

Re: Maybe pruning?

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:09 pm
by zompist
I changed the tagline— since there's not much on the page when you're not logged in, I hope that's visible enough.

Re: Maybe pruning?

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:16 pm
by Raphael
Thank you!

Re: Maybe pruning?

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 2:03 am
by Ares Land
zompist wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:21 pm What I meant was that guests can't see the forums, which means they can't spend their time hoovering up posts.

At the moment I can access the board fine. Fingers crossed.

(Edit, to keep testing if nothing else. Why do supernatural entities care if our fingers are crossed?)
It seems to have done the trick, at least on my end.

Re: Maybe pruning?

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 4:23 am
by Man in Space
I just got a straight-up 404 trying to access Conlangery.

Re: Maybe pruning?

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:25 am
by Raphael
And the Board is slow and sometimes giving me errors again. Despite the changes. Wtf is going on?

EDIT: I find it really weird that the change to a login-only Board apparently solved the problems for a while, but not permanently.

Re: Maybe pruning?

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2024 10:59 am
by zompist
Sigh. I've been getting problems again, and at this point all I can say is that I know how annoying it is.

I looked at bluehost's website, and it looks like the only way to contact them is via a chat interface. No e-mail option. I don't have time for that right now but I'll struggle with it later. I just hope it's not ChatGPT.

Re: Maybe pruning?

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:34 pm
by Man in Space
Getting 500s and 404s. I specifically thought to check this and it says there’re currently 103 visitors.

Re: Maybe pruning?

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2024 8:22 am
by bradrn
It’s really terrible just at the moment, basically unusable. And with only around ~80 users, insofar as I can tell.

As an aside: I wonder if upgrading phpBB to the latest version might be worth a try?

Re: Maybe pruning?

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:43 pm
by zompist
bradrn wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 8:22 am As an aside: I wonder if upgrading phpBB to the latest version might be worth a try?
Might be worth a try, though it's tedious.

FWIW I ftp'd into the server and checked the error_log file. It has an innumerable set of errors like this:
Stack trace:
#0 /home3/verduria/public_html/cache/production/url_generator.php(49): Symfony\Component\Routing\Generator\UrlGenerator->doGenerate(Array, Array, Array, Array, Array, 'phpbb_feed_foru...', 1, Array, Array)
#1 /home3/verduria/public_html/phpbb/routing/router.php(168): phpbb_url_generator->generate('phpbb_feed_foru...', Array, 1)
#2 /home3/verduria/public_html/phpbb/routing/helper.php(148): phpbb\routing\router->generate('phpbb_feed_foru...', Array, 1)
#3 /home3/verduria/public_html/phpbb/template/twig/extension/routing.php(36): phpbb\routing\helper->route('phpbb_feed_foru...', Array, true, false, 1)
#4 /home3/verduria/public_html/cache/production/twig/cd/cd6dc777362816e4f1730d62edab105dab4b9a7c8305a07ef7290a6eb2ce1b78.php(145): p in /home3/verduria/public_html/vendor/twig/twig/src/Template.php on line 419
[08-Apr-2023 03:38:08 America/Boise] PHP Fatal error: Uncaught Symfony\Component\Routing\Exception\InvalidParameterException: Parameter "forum_id" for route "phpbb_feed_forum" must match "\d+" ("-1165" given) to generate a corresponding URL. in /home3/verduria/public_html/vendor/symfony/routing/Generator/UrlGenerator.php:148
I have no idea what that means, and there's no timestamp. I deleted the file to see if more of the same occurs.

Ironically, the board is working fine right now. (Not because I deleted the file; it was fine before that. Since the problem comes and goes, I feel like it's bot activity, but I dunno.)

Re: Maybe pruning?

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:25 pm
by bradrn
zompist wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:43 pm
Stack trace:
#0 /home3/verduria/public_html/cache/production/url_generator.php(49): Symfony\Component\Routing\Generator\UrlGenerator->doGenerate(Array, Array, Array, Array, Array, 'phpbb_feed_foru...', 1, Array, Array)
#1 /home3/verduria/public_html/phpbb/routing/router.php(168): phpbb_url_generator->generate('phpbb_feed_foru...', Array, 1)
#2 /home3/verduria/public_html/phpbb/routing/helper.php(148): phpbb\routing\router->generate('phpbb_feed_foru...', Array, 1)
#3 /home3/verduria/public_html/phpbb/template/twig/extension/routing.php(36): phpbb\routing\helper->route('phpbb_feed_foru...', Array, true, false, 1)
#4 /home3/verduria/public_html/cache/production/twig/cd/cd6dc777362816e4f1730d62edab105dab4b9a7c8305a07ef7290a6eb2ce1b78.php(145): p in /home3/verduria/public_html/vendor/twig/twig/src/Template.php on line 419
[08-Apr-2023 03:38:08 America/Boise] PHP Fatal error: Uncaught Symfony\Component\Routing\Exception\InvalidParameterException: Parameter "forum_id" for route "phpbb_feed_forum" must match "\d+" ("-1165" given) to generate a corresponding URL. in /home3/verduria/public_html/vendor/symfony/routing/Generator/UrlGenerator.php:148
Ooh, that really doesn’t look good. I’d strongly recommend upgrading the board.

(As with previously, I’m willing to help out if needed.)

Re: Maybe pruning?

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2024 8:11 pm
by zompist
bradrn wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:25 pm (As with previously, I’m willing to help out if needed.)
I may take you up on that... please e-mail me.

Re: Maybe pruning?

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2024 8:25 pm
by bradrn
zompist wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 8:11 pm
bradrn wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:25 pm (As with previously, I’m willing to help out if needed.)
I may take you up on that... please e-mail me.
Done!