United States Politics Thread 47

[malloc]

Besides, your view of things under a democracy is, oddly enough, too rosy. Most people either don't care much about politics, or leave the thinking to their respective political camps' leading politicians or commentators.

That was precisely my point. Democracy in the US is collapsing because too many people couldn't be bothered to pay attention to politics and failed to notice the rising tide of dictatorship. It takes active effort to prevent the rise of dictatorship whereas allowing it to persist requires nothing apart from mindless obedience.

"If." I told you before that for all their bluster about military service being the apex of the human condition fascists are bad at war. They didn't survive because they picked fights they couldn't win and then doubled down rather than ever eat crow.

Sure but they also lacked the overwhelming power of the US military and faced much stronger adversaries. Nobody today even comes close to the US in terms of military spending or sheer amount of weaponry. Furthermore the military is one of the few government institutions Trump is not defunding or eliminating. Imagine if Europe had to fight the US and Russia at the same time in a third world war. Would you really expect them to win?

[Otto Kretschmer]

The problem is that majority of Chinese people are no longer sweatshop workers - Chinese labor aristocracy (usually called middle class) numbers 500 mln people already and is constantly growing.

Regarding conditions - what material conditions made a figure like Trump rise to power in the United States of 2020s and not in, say, Sweden of 1970s?

[keenir]

Besides, your view of things under a democracy is, oddly enough, too rosy. Most people either don't care much about politics, or leave the thinking to their respective political camps' leading politicians or commentators.

That was precisely my point. Democracy in the US is collapsing

aw, did Fox News tell you so, thus you can't be arsed to see if its actually another lie?

"If." I told you before that for all their bluster about military service being the apex of the human condition fascists are bad at war. They didn't survive because they picked fights they couldn't win and then doubled down rather than ever eat crow.

Sure but they also lacked the overwhelming power of the US military and faced much stronger adversaries.

in absolute terms? definately, on both parts.

but in relative terms, not in the slightest. there's a reason why the Nazis are among those credited with large-scale innovations in Lightning Warfare.

Nobody today even comes close to the US in terms of military spending or sheer amount of weaponry.

again, in absolute terms, sure. but thats easy for a nation as large as we are, harder for a country, say, the size of New Hampsire.

Furthermore the military is one of the few government institutions Trump is not defunding or eliminating.

Less than one page ago, I mentioned to you that Trump's minions are firing 1/4 of all 4-star Generals, and are trying to fire all women from the armed forces.

I reiterate: are you forgetting or ignoring?