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Karch wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 6:07 pm /p b t d k g/ <p b t d c~qu g>
/f v ð s z ʃ ʒ/ <f v rh s~ss~c s ch j>
/m n ɲ/ <m n gn>
/l r j ɥ w/ <l r y~i~ˡ u ou>
/a ɛ ɐ o i y u ɑ̃ ɛ̃ ẽ ø̃/ <a e eu o i~y u ou an en in un>
+ length <V̂>

ø̃n arlvɛː l ɛːtɛ paːsɛ j avɛ ø̃ kupj dɛː moːv dɛ grɔː nɛː k ɛːtɛ a lyː rpoːðɛ syː la grɛv dɑ̃ la bɛ̃ d sɛ̃t wɔ̃ tkɑ̃ i viːdr u prɛː d jɐː ø̃ kupj d moːv k i kɔ̃nɛːsɛ bɛ̃ ɛ ki dmɐðɛ a la kɔrbjɛð. j avɛ lõtɑ̃ k i n lɛːð avɛ pa vɐː ɛ i lyː mẽːdr a paːlɛ dy vjɛr tɑ̃ dɛ kɑ̃ i tɛ ʒɑ̃n ɛ k i alɛ a la pɛːk ɑ̃sɑ̃bj. i kaktiːdr pur ɐn poːð ɛ kɑ̃ i fy tɑ̃ pur lɛː sjɛn d grɔː nɛː a s ɑ̃ ralɛ sjɛð jɐː il ẽvitiːdr l oːt kupj a vnɛ̃ dinɛ ov jɐː a grɔː nɛː lɛ lɑ̃dmɛ̃ o sɛ. "aː mɛrsi," di la bwɔ̃nfɑ̃m moːv d la kɔrbjɛð. "vla ki noː fða grɑ̃ pjɛːði. a tʃil ɐð k i foːdra vnẽ?" i dɛsidiːdr pur sɛt ɐð ɛ nɛ vla lɛː dɐ kupj ki s ɑ̃ rvõ sjɛ jɐː.

Unn arlvê l'ête pâse y ave un coupˡ dê môv de grô nê qu'ête a lû r'pôrhe sû la grev dan la ben d' cent ouon t'can y vîdr' ou prê d' yêu un coupˡ d' môv qu'y connêse ben e qui d'meurhe a la corbierh. Y ave lontan qu'y n' lêth ave pa yêu e y lû mindr' a pâle du vier tan de can y te jann e qu'y ale a la pêc ansambˡ. Y cactîdr' pour eun pôrh e can y fu tan pour lê sien d' grô nê a s' an rale cierh yêu il invitîdr' l' ôt coupˡ a v'nen dine ov yêu a grô nê le landmen o se. "Â merci," di la bouonnfanm môv d' la corbierh. "V'la qui nô f'rha gran piêrhi. A tchil eurh qu'y fôdra v'nin?" Y decidîdr' pour cet eurh e ne vla lê deu coupˡ qui s' an r'von cie yêu.

I could of course do a quasi-etymological orthography, but my French is too rusty for that.

• The manner of q is somewhat variable and it often has a noisy / affricated release
• Geminates are always voiceless and generally occlusives, although ɮ only sporadically affricates when long.
• Intervocalic Lenition - Plosives have liquid and approximant allophones here, whereas affricatives weaken to fricatives.
• Internal Coda Weakening - p, t undergo total assimilation here, whereas k, q and t͡ʃ weaken to fricatives.
• Coda and Final Devoicing - ɮ and j devoice in coda position, and j merges with t͡ʃ.
• Nasal assimilation - nasals assimilate in place to following consonants.
• Word-Final Aspiration - Stops show aspiration word finally. Affricates and fricatives are in free variation.
• Word-Final Post-Stopping - Nasals are often post-stopped in final position, possibly to strengthen their place signals.
• Post-Consonant and Geminate Fortition - ɮ devoices and/or affricates in this position, and j merges with t͡ʃ.

Position	p	t	t͡ʃ 		k 	q 		m 	n 	ɲ 	ŋ 	ɮ		j 
#_   		p	t 	t͡ʃ		k	q, q͡χ 		m 	n	ɲ	ŋ	ɮ		j
V_V   		β, v	ɾ	ʃ, s		j	ʁ		m	n	ɲ	ŋ 	ɮ		j 
_C   		G 	G	ʃ, s 		χ	χ 		N	N	N	N 	ɬ		ʃ, s
C_		p	t	t͡ʃ 		k	q, q͡χ 		m 	n	ɲ 	ŋ	t͡ɬ		ɲː, G 
Cː     		pː 	tː	t͡ʃː 		kː	qː, q͡χː 	mː 	nː	ɲː 	ŋː 	t͡ɬː, ɬː 	t͡ʃː
_# 		pʰ	tʰ 	t͡ʃ, ʃ, s 	kʰ 	qʰ, q͡χ, χ 	mᵇ	nᵈ 	ɲᶡ	ŋᵍ 	ɬ		t͡ʃ, ʃ, s

chris_notts wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:50 am Seems like the monospace font on some devices borks the IPA symbols

bradrn wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:04 am It would be nice to have a sample text to see how this looks in practice.

foxcatdog wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:49 am And yes there is vowel harmony.

bradrn wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:18 am

foxcatdog wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:49 am And yes there is vowel harmony.

Of what sort?

Nortaneous wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:21 pm [p t tʃ k q m n ɲ ŋ ɮ j] <p t c k q m n ñ ŋ l y>
[β ɾ s χ ʁ] <v r s q q>
[mb nd ɲɟ ŋg] <mb nd ñj ŋg>

/qenap it͡ʃitunːaʃ ɮopen nakːapan neqin choːjuk opekːaɲːeːjiːn keŋeŋ/

[q͡χenapʰ iʃiɾunːaʃ ɮoβen nakːaβan neʁin t͡ʃoːjukʰ oβekːaɲːeːjiːnᵈ keŋeŋᵍ]
Qenap isirunnas loven nakkavan neqin cōyuk ovekkaññēyind keŋeŋg.

• Any <v> can be replaced by <w>, likewise with <j> and <y>.
• The pitch accent is marked with an acute accent or doubling the according vowel. Vowels spelled with two letters double the first one. It's typically not marked on the penult syllable of a word. An acute accent on <ä ö ü> makes them <a̋ ő ű>, respectively.
• An apostrophe separates multigraphs.

Starbeam wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:44 am I can't tell if the example is a word list or just a sentence beginning with all asterisks by mistake. Just gonna assume it's a passage from context.