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Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:13 pm
by Rounin Ryuuji
Nasal resonants become full nasals: [j̃ ɹ̃] > [ɲ n]
[ɘ'se.ɲɵɞ.nɐ'sɛ.ɲɵɘ]
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:27 pm
by foxcatdog
Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:13 pm
Nasal resonants become full nasals: [j̃ ɹ̃] > [ɲ n]
[ɘ'se.ɲɵɞ.nɐ'sɛ.ɲɵɘ]
['wiljahelmaz 'raginaharjazsunuz]
Seems sufficient and different change from the start word
Anyways
[tɘ'sa 'kakʷi somi'sa a'nɘo a'we]
Tusá kakwí somisá anúo awé
s > ɬ
[tɘ'ɬa 'kakʷi ɬomi'ɬa a'nɘo a'we]
Tulhá kakwí lhomilhá anúo awé
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:31 pm
by Rounin Ryuuji
Voiceless consonants become aspirated:
[tʰɘ'ɬʰa 'kʰakʰʷi ɬʰomi'ɬʰa a'nɘo a'we]
Tulhá kakwí lhomilhá anúo awé
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 1:04 am
by Travis B.
WarpedWartWars wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:27 pm
I see an "o" with tilde and umlaut; you don't see that?
I do have to say that something that's difficult to type is a legitimate reason to change its orthography, especially considering if the native speakers of said language have something resembling modern computers or the typewriter.
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:39 am
by Rounin Ryuuji
It was also difficult to disambiguate from a double acute accent.
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:31 pm
by WarpedWartWars
Travis B. wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 1:04 am
I do have to say that something that's difficult to type is a legitimate reason to change its orthography, especially considering if the native speakers of said language have something resembling modern computers or the typewriter.
Ah. Indeed it is.
Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:39 am
It was also difficult to disambiguate from a double acute accent.
I see how the
tilde might be, but not how both together would.
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:12 pm
by Jonlang
Intervocalic lenition:
[tʰɘ'la 'kʰakʰʷi ɬʰoβ̃i'la a'nɘo a'we]
Tulá kaquí lhomhilá anúo awé
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:24 pm
by Rounin Ryuuji
Chain shift [kʰ kʰʷ] > [c͡ɕʰ kʰ]:
[tʰɘ'la 'c͡ɕʰakʰi ɬʰoβ̃i'la a'nɘo a'we]
Tulá kákwi lhomhilá anúo awé.
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 12:43 pm
by Travis B.
Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:24 pm
Chain shift [kʰ kʰʷ] > [c͡ɕʰ kʰ]:
[tʰɘ'la 'c͡ɕʰakʰi ɬʰoβ̃i'la a'nɘo a'we]
Tulá kákwi lhomhilá anúo awé.
You sure like [c͡ɕ]!
Deaffrication and deaspiration of frictives.
[tʰɘ'la 'ɕakʰi ɬoβ̃i'la a'nɘo a'we]
Tulá siákwi lhomhilá anúo awé.
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 7:03 pm
by Rounin Ryuuji
Travis B. wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 12:43 pm
You sure like [c͡ɕ]!
It was more that it just struck me as a likely change.
Anyway:
[ɘ we ɘo] > [jo jo joː]
[tʰjo'la 'ɕakʰi ɬoβ̃i'la a'njoː a'jo]
Tiolá siákwi lhomhilá aniô aió.
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:41 am
by Jonlang
[j] > [ð] unless preceded by a plosive.
[tʰjo'la 'ɕakʰi ɬoβ̃i'la a'nðoː a'ðo]
Tiolá siáki lhomhilá andô adó.
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 3:17 am
by foxcatdog
Jonlang wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:41 am
[j] > [ð] unless preceded by a plosive.
[tʰjo'la 'ɕakʰi ɬoβ̃i'la a'nðoː a'ðo]
Tiolá siáki lhomhilá andô adó.
ð > t ala finnic
[tʰjo'la 'ɕakʰi ɬoβ̃i'la a'ntoː a'to]
Tiolá siáki lhomhilá antô ató.
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:42 am
by Jonlang
Re-analysation of stress; [β̃] > [v].
['tʰjola 'ɕakʰi ɬov'ila 'antoː 'ato]
Tyóla siáki lhóvila ántô áto.
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:17 am
by vegfarandi
Depalatalization of sibilants.
['tʰjola 'sakʰi ɬov'ila 'antoː 'ato]
Tyóla sáki lhóvila ántô áto.
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:47 am
by Travis B.
Defrication of voiceless lateral fricatives.
['tʰjola 'sakʰi lov'ila 'antoː 'ato]
Tyóla sáki lóvila ántô áto.
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:16 am
by Rounin Ryuuji
Consonant chain shift, this time Hawai'ian style:
[tʰ t kʰ] > [kʰ k ʔ]
['kʰjola 'saʔi lov'ila 'ankoː 'ako]
The orthography remains fairly conservative:
Tyóla sáki lóvila ántō áto.
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:45 am
by Travis B.
[kʰ] > [x]
['xjola 'saʔi lov'ila 'ankoː 'ako]
The orthography remains fairly conservative:
Tyóla sáki lóvila ántō áto.
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:26 pm
by vegfarandi
Nasal assimilation.
['xjola 'saʔi lov'ila 'aŋkoː 'ako]
Orthography unchanged:
Tyóla sáki lóvila ántō áto.
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:18 pm
by Rounin Ryuuji
[xj] > [ç]
['çola 'saʔi lov'ila 'aŋkoː 'ako]
Tyóla sáki lóvila ántō áto.
Re: Word evolution game
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:38 pm
by Jonlang
Unstressed vowels become short, stressed vowels become long.
['çoːla 'saːʔi lov'iːla 'aːŋko 'aːko]
Xōla sā'i lovīla ānto āto.