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Re: Word evolution game

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:13 pm
by Rounin Ryuuji
Nasal resonants become full nasals: [j̃ ɹ̃] > [ɲ n]

[ɘ'se.ɲɵɞ.nɐ'sɛ.ɲɵɘ]

Re: Word evolution game

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:27 pm
by foxcatdog
Rounin Ryuuji wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:13 pm Nasal resonants become full nasals: [j̃ ɹ̃] > [ɲ n]

[ɘ'se.ɲɵɞ.nɐ'sɛ.ɲɵɘ]
['wiljahelmaz 'raginaharjazsunuz]
Seems sufficient and different change from the start word

Anyways

[tɘ'sa 'kakʷi somi'sa a'nɘo a'we]

Tusá kakwí somisá anúo awé

s > ɬ

[tɘ'ɬa 'kakʷi ɬomi'ɬa a'nɘo a'we]

Tulhá kakwí lhomilhá anúo awé

Re: Word evolution game

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:31 pm
by Rounin Ryuuji
Voiceless consonants become aspirated:

[tʰɘ'ɬʰa 'kʰakʰʷi ɬʰomi'ɬʰa a'nɘo a'we]

Tulhá kakwí lhomilhá anúo awé

Re: Word evolution game

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 1:04 am
by Travis B.
WarpedWartWars wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:27 pm
Rounin Ryuuji wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:05 am display issues
I see an "o" with tilde and umlaut; you don't see that?
I do have to say that something that's difficult to type is a legitimate reason to change its orthography, especially considering if the native speakers of said language have something resembling modern computers or the typewriter.

Re: Word evolution game

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:39 am
by Rounin Ryuuji
It was also difficult to disambiguate from a double acute accent.

Re: Word evolution game

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:31 pm
by WarpedWartWars
Travis B. wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 1:04 am I do have to say that something that's difficult to type is a legitimate reason to change its orthography, especially considering if the native speakers of said language have something resembling modern computers or the typewriter.
Ah. Indeed it is.
Rounin Ryuuji wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:39 am It was also difficult to disambiguate from a double acute accent.
I see how the tilde might be, but not how both together would.

Re: Word evolution game

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:12 pm
by Jonlang
Intervocalic lenition:

[tʰɘ'la 'kʰakʰʷi ɬʰoβ̃i'la a'nɘo a'we]

Tulá kaquí lhomhilá anúo awé

Re: Word evolution game

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:24 pm
by Rounin Ryuuji
Chain shift [kʰ kʰʷ] > [c͡ɕʰ kʰ]:

[tʰɘ'la 'c͡ɕʰakʰi ɬʰoβ̃i'la a'nɘo a'we]

Tulá kákwi lhomhilá anúo awé.

Re: Word evolution game

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 12:43 pm
by Travis B.
Rounin Ryuuji wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:24 pm Chain shift [kʰ kʰʷ] > [c͡ɕʰ kʰ]:

[tʰɘ'la 'c͡ɕʰakʰi ɬʰoβ̃i'la a'nɘo a'we]

Tulá kákwi lhomhilá anúo awé.
You sure like [c͡ɕ]!

Deaffrication and deaspiration of frictives.

[tʰɘ'la 'ɕakʰi ɬoβ̃i'la a'nɘo a'we]

Tulá siákwi lhomhilá anúo awé.

Re: Word evolution game

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 7:03 pm
by Rounin Ryuuji
Travis B. wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 12:43 pm You sure like [c͡ɕ]!
It was more that it just struck me as a likely change.

Anyway:

[ɘ we ɘo] > [jo jo joː]

[tʰjo'la 'ɕakʰi ɬoβ̃i'la a'njoː a'jo]

Tiolá siákwi lhomhilá aniô aió.

Re: Word evolution game

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:41 am
by Jonlang
[j] > [ð] unless preceded by a plosive.

[tʰjo'la 'ɕakʰi ɬoβ̃i'la a'nðoː a'ðo]

Tiolá siáki lhomhilá andô adó.

Re: Word evolution game

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 3:17 am
by foxcatdog
Jonlang wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:41 am [j] > [ð] unless preceded by a plosive.

[tʰjo'la 'ɕakʰi ɬoβ̃i'la a'nðoː a'ðo]

Tiolá siáki lhomhilá andô adó.
ð > t ala finnic

[tʰjo'la 'ɕakʰi ɬoβ̃i'la a'ntoː a'to]

Tiolá siáki lhomhilá antô ató.

Re: Word evolution game

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:42 am
by Jonlang
Re-analysation of stress; [β̃] > [v].

['tʰjola 'ɕakʰi ɬov'ila 'antoː 'ato]

Tyóla siáki lhóvila ántô áto.

Re: Word evolution game

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:17 am
by vegfarandi
Depalatalization of sibilants.

['tʰjola 'sakʰi ɬov'ila 'antoː 'ato]

Tyóla sáki lhóvila ántô áto.

Re: Word evolution game

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:47 am
by Travis B.
Defrication of voiceless lateral fricatives.

['tʰjola 'sakʰi lov'ila 'antoː 'ato]

Tyóla sáki lóvila ántô áto.

Re: Word evolution game

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:16 am
by Rounin Ryuuji
Consonant chain shift, this time Hawai'ian style:
[tʰ t kʰ] > [kʰ k ʔ]

['kʰjola 'saʔi lov'ila 'ankoː 'ako]

The orthography remains fairly conservative:

Tyóla sáki lóvila ántō áto.

Re: Word evolution game

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:45 am
by Travis B.
[kʰ] > [x]

['xjola 'saʔi lov'ila 'ankoː 'ako]

The orthography remains fairly conservative:

Tyóla sáki lóvila ántō áto.

Re: Word evolution game

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:26 pm
by vegfarandi
Nasal assimilation.

['xjola 'saʔi lov'ila 'aŋkoː 'ako]

Orthography unchanged:

Tyóla sáki lóvila ántō áto.

Re: Word evolution game

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:18 pm
by Rounin Ryuuji
[xj] > [ç]

['çola 'saʔi lov'ila 'aŋkoː 'ako]
Tyóla sáki lóvila ántō áto.

Re: Word evolution game

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:38 pm
by Jonlang
Unstressed vowels become short, stressed vowels become long.

['çoːla 'saːʔi lov'iːla 'aːŋko 'aːko]
Xōla sā'i lovīla ānto āto.