Pronunciations you had to unlearn

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I very recently learned that in English, the "o" in "leopard" is silent. To think that for all that time, my inner ear had a completely false idea of how the face eating quote would sound like when spoken out aloud!
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Raphael wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2026 5:05 pm I very recently learned that in English, the "o" in "leopard" is silent. To think that for all that time, my inner ear had a completely false idea of how the face eating quote would sound like when spoken out aloud!
The ⟨e⟩ is short¹ as well, which is odd. Interestingly this pronounciation of ⟨eo⟩ is also found in the word ⟨Leonard('s)⟩². Does anyone know whats going on here? I'd guess trisyllabic laxing and then … randomly dropping a schwa?

¹ In English spelling terminology, and coincidentally also in real life. It's the DRESS vowel /ɛ/.
² In the UK at least, it's much more likely that you come across something named St Leonard's than someone named Leonard.

Edit: forgot to double check my lexical set and got it wrong
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LZ – Lēri Ziwi
PS – Proto Sāzlakuic (ancestor of LZ)
PRk – Proto Rākēwuic
XI – Xú Iạlan
VN – verbal noun
SUP – supine
DIRECT – verbal directional
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Lērisama wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2026 5:29 pm
Raphael wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2026 5:05 pm I very recently learned that in English, the "o" in "leopard" is silent. To think that for all that time, my inner ear had a completely false idea of how the face eating quote would sound like when spoken out aloud!
The ⟨e⟩ is short¹ as well, which is odd. Interestingly this pronounciation of ⟨eo⟩ is also found in the word ⟨Leonard('s)⟩². Does anyone know whats going on here? I'd guess trisyllabic laxing and then … randomly dropping a schwa?

¹ In English spelling terminology, and coincidentally also in real life. It's the BED vowel /ɛ/.
I'm pretty sure the term is 'DRESS', not 'BED'.
Lērisama wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2026 5:29 pm ² In the UK at least, it's much more likely that you come across something named St Leonard's than someone named Leonard.
I'd never even heard of a "St. Leonard's" until I saw your post.
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I should also note that 'Leonard' is just the English equivalent to Scandinavian/German 'Lennart'.
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T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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Travis B. wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2026 7:00 pmI should also note that 'Leonard' is just the English equivalent to Scandinavian/German 'Lennart'.
Or any of the other multitude of local varieties ("Leonardo", "Léonard", "Lennard" etc.). Apparently it's from Germanic "Leonhard", "brave lion".


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