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*b *bʲ *d̪ *dʷ *d *dʲ *gʲ *gʲʷ *g *gʷ
*b̥ *b̥ʲ *d̪ *d̥ʷ *d̥ *d̥ʲ *g̥ʲ *g̥ʲʷ *g̥ *g̥ʷ
*pʲ *t̪ *tʷ *t *tʲ *kʲ *kʲʷ *k *kʷ *q *qʷ *ʔ
*d̪z̪ *dz *dzʲ *dzʷ
*d̪̊z̪̊ *d̥z̥ *d̥z̥ʲ *d̥z̥ʷ
*t̪s̪ *ts *tsʲ *tsʷ
*v *z̪ *zʷ *z *zʲ *ɮ *ɮʲ *ɣʲ *ɣʲʷ *ɣ *ɣʷ *ʁ *ʁʷ
*f *s̪ *sʷ *s *sʲ *ɬ *ɬʲ *xʲ *xʲʷ *x *xʷ *χ *χʷ
*r *rʲ
*r̥ *r̥ʲ
*ɺʷ *ɺ *ɺʲ
*ɺ̥ʷ *ɺ̥ *ɺ̥ʲ
*w *j
*m *n̪ *n *nʲ *ŋʲ *ŋ *ŋʷ *ɴ *ɴʷ
*m̥ *n̪ *n̥ *n̥ʲ *ŋ̊ʲ *ŋ̊ *ŋ̊ʷ *ɴ̥ *ɴ̥ʷ

*i *o *a *ə *i: *o: *a: *ə:
*io *ia *io: *ia:
*oi *oa *oi: *oa:
*ai *ao *ai: *ao:

CCAVCC syllable structure maximally where A is an approximate. Some CC clusters were disallowed initially and finally such as stops+stops. In addition adjacent labials, coronals and velars assimilate to the place of articulation of the next consonant of the same place of articulation.
Consonants marked with a voiceless diacritic are slack voiced rather then fully devoiced.

/b bʲ d̪ dʷ d dʲ gʲ gʲʷ g gʷ/ ⟨b by ḓ ḓw d dy gy gɥ g gw⟩
/b̥ b̥ʲ d̪ d̥ʷ d̥ d̥ʲ g̥ʲ g̥ʲʷ g̥ g̥ʷ/ ⟨bh bhy ḓh ḓhw dh dhy ghy ghɥ gh ghw⟩
/pʲ t̪ tʷ t tʲ kʲ kʲʷ k kʷ q qʷ ʔ/ ⟨p ṱ tw t ty ky kɥ k kw q qw ɂ⟩
/d̪z̪ dz dzʲ dzʷ/ ⟨ʝ j jy jw⟩
/d̪̊z̪̊ d̥z̥ d̥z̥ʲ d̥z̥ʷ/ ⟨ʝh jh jhy jhw⟩
/t̪s̪ ts tsʲ tsʷ/ ⟨c̭ c cy cw⟩
/v z̪ zʷ z zʲ ɮ ɮʲ ɣʲ ɣʲʷ ɣ ɣʷ ʁ ʁʷ/ ⟨v z̭ zw z zy l ly xy xɥ x xw ẋ ẋw⟩
/f s̪ sʷ s sʲ ɬ ɬʲ xʲ xʲʷ x xʷ χ χʷ/ ⟨f s̭ sw s sy lh lhy xhy xhɥ xh xhw ẋh ẋhw⟩
/r rʲ/ ⟨r ry⟩
/r̥ r̥ʲ/ ⟨rh rhy⟩
/ɺʷ ɺ ɺʲ/ ⟨ṙw ṙ ṙy⟩
/ɺ̥ʷ ɺ̥ ɺ̥ʲ/ ⟨ṙhw ṙh ṙhy⟩
/w j/ ⟨ĭ ŭ⟩
/m n̪ n nʲ ŋʲ ŋ ŋʷ ɴ ɴʷ/ ⟨m ṋ n ny ŋy ŋ ŋw ṅ ṅw⟩
/m̥ n̪ n̥ n̥ʲ ŋ̊ʲ ŋ̊ ŋ̊ʷ ɴ̥ ɴ̥ʷ/ ⟨mh ṋh nh nhy ŋhy ŋh ŋhw ṅh ṅhw⟩


/i o a ə i: o: a: ə:/ ⟨i o a e ii oo aa ee⟩
/io ia io: ia:/ ⟨io ia ioo iaa⟩
/oi oa oi: oa:/ ⟨oi oa oii oaa⟩
/ai ao ai: ao:/ ⟨ai ao aii aoo⟩

/pʰ tsʰ tʃʰ kʰ/
/p~m t~n~ɾ~ɾ̃ tʃ~ɲ k~ŋ/
/ts tɬ/
/f s ʃ ɬ x h/
/j w/

/a e i o u/ + long + nasal for a 4-way contrast.

CVC, nasal allophones invariably precede nasal vowels.

Knit Tie wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 12:43 am /pʰ tsʰ tʃʰ kʰ/
/p~m t~n~ɾ~ɾ̃ tʃ~ɲ k~ŋ/
/ts tɬ/
/f s ʃ ɬ x h/
/j w/

/a e i o u/ + long + nasal for a 4-way contrast.

CVC, nasal allophones invariably precede nasal vowels.

ph th ch kh
p/m t/n c/ń k/ng
z tl
f s ś l x h
j w

or

p t tr k
b/m d/n dr/ń g/ng
c tl
f s r l x h
j w

tilde for nasal, doubling for long

/pʰ tsʰ tʃʰ kʰ/ <p t c k>
[p m t n ɾ ɾ̃ tʃ ɲ k ŋ] <p m t n r n j ñ g ŋ>
/ts tɬ/ <z dl>
/f s ʃ ɬ x h/ <f s sh hl gh h>
/j w/ <y w>

/a e i o u/ <a e i o u> * <a aa ã ãã>

Proto-Whatic

/pʲ pˠ t k ʔ/
/bʲ bˠ d g/
/ɸʲ ɸˠ s ç x/
/βˠ ɹ ʑ ɦ/
/ɮ r/
/mʲ mˠ n l̃ ɲ ŋ/
/j w/

/ɛ o i ɨ u/
/ɑː ɛː oː iː uː/

Nasality spreads leftwards from nasal consonants through voiced continuants and glottals; additionally, vowels after nasal consonants are always nasalized.
ɮ > ɮd before a nasal vowel.
ɲt ɲd > ɲc ɲɟ; [c ɟ] don't appear otherwise.
The short vowels are realized [ɜ ɔ ɪ ɨ̞ ʊ].

/ʔosomˠũ ʔɛːŋɨ̃ mʲindɛːndɛː βˠo βˠuː ɛtɛtnwomˠ βˠo umʲɛrɛ mˠomʲɛnt | ɑː iː çuːɮɛçwoːɮɛ doːɦɛŋ βˠo xondɛ pˠoɲɛswombˠ || ʔoɸʷoɲɛ̃ kɛrwo ɲɛʔ ɲɛɲɛrɛ bʲɑː βˠo ɦɛtɛːs || ʔɛː ʑiːmˠ ɸˠoɲɛɸˠoɲɛ̃ mʲirwoɲdɛ çɑː ɦɛtɛmʲɛ̃ | ɑː l̃ɑː pˠoːmʲ l̃iŋkut iː çumʲɛɮɛ̃ | ɑːj l̃ɑː kŋɑ̃ː tuːŋõ çwoːr l̃ɑː ɸˠoːʑ ŋuɮɛŋɛ̃/
[ʔosõmˠũ ʔɛ̃ːŋɨ̃ mʲĩndɛ̃ːndɛː βˠo βˠuː ɛtɛtnwõmˠ βˠo ũmʲɛ̃rɛ mˠõmʲɛ̃nt | ɑː iː çuːɮɛçwoːɮɛ dõːɦɛ̃ŋ βˠo xõndɛ pˠõɲɛ̃swõmbˠ || ʔoɸʷõɲɛ̃ kɛrwo ɲɛ̃ʔ ɲɛ̃ɲɛ̃rɛ bʲɑː βˠo ɦɛtɛːs || ʔɛː ʑĩːmˠ ɸˠõɲɛɸˠõɲɛ̃ mʲĩrwõɲɟɛ çɑː ɦɛtɛ̃mʲɛ̃ | ɑː l̃ɑ̃ː pˠõːmʲ l̃ĩŋkut iː çũmʲɛ̃ɮdɛ̃ | ɑːj l̃ɑ̃ː kŋɑ̃ː tũːŋõ çwoːr l̃ɑ̃ː ɸˠoːʑ ŋũɮdɛ̃ŋɛ̃]

Nortaneous wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 1:18 pm Proto-Whatic

Do sequences like /mʲo/ or /mˠi/ occur, or are palatalized and velarized labials only phonemically distinct as codas?

äreo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 9:26 pm

Nortaneous wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 1:18 pm Proto-Whatic

Do sequences like /mʲo/ or /mˠi/ occur, or are palatalized and velarized labials only phonemically distinct as codas?

Good question. I think the only onset contrast between palatalized and velarized labials is between /mʲ mˠ/ before unrounded vowels, since *w > mˠ / _Ṽ. But I think I'll add another umlaut rule to fix this. Also, /ɣ/ should be /ɦ/.

/pʲ pˠ t k ʔ/ <p p t k ʼ>
/bʲ bˠ d g/ <b b d g>
/ɸʲ ɸˠ s ç x/ <f f s c x>
/βˠ ɹ ʑ ɦ/ <v r j h>
/ɮ r/ <ļ rr>
/mʲ mˠ n l̃ ɲ ŋ/ <m m n l ny ng>
/j w/ <i u>

/ɛ o i ɨ u/ <e o i a u>
/ɑː ɛː oː iː uː/ <ā ē ō ī ū>
nasalization = cedilla, labial front/back mismatch <ë ö>

/ʔosomˠũ ʔɛːŋɨ̃ mʲindɛːndɛː βˠo βˠuː ɛtɛtnwomˠ βˠo umʲɛrɛ mˠomʲɛnt | ɑː iː çuːɮɛçwoːɮɛ doːɦɛŋ βˠo xondɛ pˠoɲɛswombˠ || ʔoɸʷoɲɛ̃ kɛrwo ɲɛʔ ɲɛɲɛrɛ bʲɑː βˠo ɦɛtɛːs || ʔɛː ʑiːmˠ ɸˠoɲɛɸˠoɲɛ̃ mʲirwoɲdɛ çɑː ɦɛtɛmʲɛ̃ | ɑː l̃ɑː pˠoːmʲ l̃iŋkut iː çumʲɛɮɛ̃ | ɑːj l̃ɑː kŋɑ̃ː tuːŋõ çwoːr l̃ɑː ɸˠoːʑ ŋuɮɛŋɛ̃/
ʼOsomu̧ ʼēngi mindēndē vo vū etetnuom vo umerre moment, ā ī cūlecuōle dōheng vo xonde ponyesuomb. ʼOfonyȩ kerruo nyeʼ nyenyerre bëā vo hetēs. ʼĒ jīöm fonyefonyȩ mirruondye cā hetemȩ, ā ļā pōëm ļinkut ī cumelȩ, āi ļā kngā̧ tūngo̧ cuorr ļā fōj ngulengȩ.

Nortaneous wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:43 pm ʼOsomu̧ ʼēngi mindēndē vo vū etetnuom vo umerre moment, ā ī cūlecuōle dōheng vo xonde ponyesuomb. ʼOfonyȩ kerruo nyeʼ nyenyerre bëā vo hetēs. ʼĒ jīöm fonyefonyȩ mirruondye cā hetemȩ, ā ļā pōëm ļinkut ī cumelȩ, āi ļā kngā̧ tūngo̧ cuorr ļā fōj ngulengȩ.

I had something even more different, but now it's more like a slight modification of yours:

/pʲ pˠ t k ʔ/
p p t k ʼ
/bʲ bˠ d g/
b b d g
/ɸʲ ɸˠ s ç x/
f f s c x
/βˠ ɹ ʑ ɦ/
v r z h
/ɮ r/
l rr
/mʲ mˠ n l̃ ɲ ŋ/
m m n nl ni/in ng
/j w/
i u (j w after /i u/ if that ever occurs)
/ɛ o i ɨ u/
e o i a u
/ɑː ɛː oː iː uː/
ā ē ō ī ū

No additional nasalization marker when the surrounding consonants make it clear, otherwise cedilla; i and doubling for bilabial front/back mismatch.

/ʔosomˠũ ʔɛːŋɨ̃ mʲindɛːndɛː βˠo βˠuː ɛtɛtnwomˠ βˠo umʲɛrɛ mˠomʲɛnt | ɑː iː çuːɮɛçwoːɮɛ doːɦɛŋ βˠo xondɛ pˠoɲɛswombˠ || ʔoɸʷoɲɛ̃ kɛrwo ɲɛʔ ɲɛɲɛrɛ bʲɑː βˠo ɦɛtɛːs || ʔɛː ʑiːmˠ ɸˠoɲɛɸˠoɲɛ̃ mʲirwoɲdɛ çɑː ɦɛtɛmʲɛ̃ | ɑː l̃ɑː pˠoːmʲ l̃iŋkut iː çumʲɛɮɛ̃ | ɑːj l̃ɑː kŋɑ̃ː tuːŋõ çwoːr l̃ɑː ɸˠoːʑ ŋuɮɛŋɛ̃/

ʼOsomu ʼēnga mindēndē vo vū etetnuom vo umerre moment, ā ī cūlecuōle dōheng vo xonde poñeswomb. ʼOfoñe kerruo ñeʼ ñeñerre biā vo hetēs. ʼĒ zīmm foñefoñe mīrruoñde cā heteme, ā nlā pōim nlinkut ī cumelȩ, āi nlā kngā tūngo cwōrr nlā fōz ngulenge.

My original idea had digraphs for the long vowels:

ʼOsomu ʼaenga mindaendae vo vou etetnuom vo umerre moment, aa ei coulecuaole daoheng vo xonde poñeswomb. ʼOfoñe kerruo ñeʼ ñeñerre biaa vo hetaes. ʼAe zeimm foñefoñe meirruoñde caa heteme, aa nlaa paoim nlinkut ei cumelȩ, aai nlaa kngaa toungo cwaorr nlaa faoz ngulenge.

/pʲ pˠ t k ʔ/ <p pw t k '>
/bʲ bˠ d g/ <b bw d g>
/ɸʲ ɸˠ s ç x/ <f fw s sh kh>
/βˠ ɹ ʑ ɦ/ <v r̂ ŷ h>
/ɮ r/ <ld r>
/mʲ mˠ n l̃ ɲ ŋ/ <m mw n ln ny ng>
/j w/ <y w>
[ɲc ɲɟ] <nc nj>

/ɛ o i ɨ u/ <e o i ü u>
/ɑː ɛː oː iː uː/ <aa ee oo ii uu>
contrastive nasality is written with an ogonek

/ʔosomˠũ ʔɛːŋɨ̃ mʲindɛːndɛː βˠo βˠuː ɛtɛtnwomˠ βˠo umʲɛrɛ mˠomʲɛnt | ɑː iː çuːɮɛçwoːɮɛ doːɦɛŋ βˠo xondɛ pˠoɲɛswombˠ || ʔoɸʷoɲɛ̃ kɛrwo ɲɛʔ ɲɛɲɛrɛ bʲɑː βˠo ɦɛtɛːs || ʔɛː ʑiːmˠ ɸˠoɲɛɸˠoɲɛ̃ mʲirwoɲdɛ çɑː ɦɛtɛmʲɛ̃ | ɑː l̃ɑː pˠoːmʲ l̃iŋkut iː çumʲɛɮɛ̃ | ɑːj l̃ɑː kŋɑ̃ː tuːŋõ çwoːr l̃ɑː ɸˠoːʑ ŋuɮɛŋɛ̃/

'Osomwu 'eengü mindeendee vo vuu etetnwomw vwo umere mwoment, aa ii shuuldeshwoolde dooheng vo khonde pwonyeswombw. 'Ofwonye kerwo nye' nyenyere baa vo hetees. 'Ee ŷiimw fwonyefwonye mirwonje shaa heteme, aa lnaa pwoom lningkut ii shumeldę, aay lnaa kngaa tuungo shwoor lnaa fwooŷ nguldenge.

Nortaneous wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 12:04 pm /pʰ tsʰ tʃʰ kʰ/ <p t c k>
[p m t n ɾ ɾ̃ tʃ ɲ k ŋ] <p m t n r n j ñ g ŋ>
/ts tɬ/ <z dl>
/f s ʃ ɬ x h/ <f s sh hl gh h>
/j w/ <y w>

/a e i o u/ <a e i o u> * <a aa ã ãã>

I like this one. Here's my own:

/pʰ tsʰ tʃʰ kʰ/ <p ts tx k>
[p m t n ɾ ɾ̃ tʃ ɲ k ŋ] <b/m d/t/n/r dx/ñ g/ğ>
/ts tɬ/ <ds tł>
/f s ʃ ɬ x h/ <f s x ł j h>
/j w/ <y w>

/a e i o u/ <a e i o u> * <a aa ã ãã>

Knit Tie wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 12:43 am /pʰ tsʰ tʃʰ kʰ/
/p~m t~n~ɾ~ɾ̃ tʃ~ɲ k~ŋ/
/ts tɬ/
/f s ʃ ɬ x h/
/j w/

/a e i o u/ + long + nasal for a 4-way contrast.

CVC, nasal allophones invariably precede nasal vowels.

<p t c k>
<m n j g>
<q r>
<f z s l x h>
<y w>

<a e i o u> + doubling + tilde: <ãã ẽẽ> etc

Tserzou

/p pʼ b t tʼ d ts tsʼ dz tɬ tɬʼ dɮ k kʼ g qʼ ʔ/
/ɸ β s z ɬ l x ɣ χ ʁ/
/m n ŋ/

Short vowels:
/ɛ œ ə ɪ ʏ/

Long vowels:
/æ̠ a o̯æ̠ u̯a/
/ʌ̠ o̯ʌ̠ ɔ/
/eɛ̯ øɶ̯/
/ɛɪ œʏ ɔu/
/e̠ ø̠ o̠/
/ɪɛ̯ ʏœ̯ uɔ̯/
/i y ɯ u/
/oɪ̯ ɪu̯/

V V̀ (default high tone vs. marked low tone / breathy voice)

Monophthongs other than /a ɔ/ and high vowels are marked. Every [-round] vowel has a corresponding [+round]. Voiceless plosives are aspirated in onset position.

bitɛɪ̯dəʔ ʁɪtɬʼø̠tɬʼø̠̀də tɬeɛ̯ tsʼʏœ̯p fæ̠̀vœ̀ tøɶ̯̀ læ̠ tsʼeɛ̯ kø̀ɶ̯tsʌ̠ʔ | leɛ̯ dɮøɶ̯χ qʼø̠̀ vì ìʁxœtɬuɔ̯ leɛ̯ veɛ̯ vəu̯atχɔ̀u̯bœ̀ vɔu̯mgœnbʏn bɪ̀mɪɬəχtœn kɪu̯k tsʼʌ || dɮʏ̀χɔu̯zɪ tsɛɪ̯ vəʔo̠m ɔu̯ŋ | tɛɪ̯zidə̀ tɬʼœ̀ʏ̯ndœ nœʏ̯k tɛɪ̯k | tɬʼæn wànɯ-dœ̀=bʏn vɛ̀ɪ̯tɬɛɪ̯k || ɪmkʼi ʁɪtɬʼø̠tɬʼø̠̀zɪ ʁəntsʏn tɛɪ̯bo̠ngən=tʼʏn χò̠dɛn xoɪ̯ lùɔ̯ tsʼeɛ̯ ʔœχøɶ̯ʁə̀ ɔu̯ŋ || zɛqʼèɛ̯ mɪɬəχtœ tɪnɪŋ tsʼeɛ | ɬʌ̠p ɣoɪ̯ʁœχ tɪnɪŋ tsʼeɛ̯ ʔœχøɶ̯ʁə̀ ɔu̯ŋ

orː

dø̀ɶ̯ tɛɪ̯bo̠ŋgœ kʏœ̯ʔ χøɶχtœχ lùɔ̯ ɬà kʼʏ̀œ̯dè̠ nœʏ̯n tùɔ̯ || kʼʏ̀œ̯daχ fo̠m qʼø̠̀dœ dø̀ɶ̯ tɛɪ̯bo̠ŋgœn dɮe̠χ lùɔ̯ || tɛ̀ɪ̯pʼʌχ tɛ̀ɪ̯pʼʌχ tɛ̀ɪ̯pʼʌχ tɛ̀ɪ̯pʼʌχ tɛ̀ɪ̯pʼʌχ tɛ̀ɪ̯pʼʌχ tɛ̀ɪ̯pʼʌχ

/p pʼ b t tʼ d ts tsʼ dz tɬ tɬʼ dɮ k kʼ g qʼ ʔ/ ⟨ph p b th t d ch c tlh tl dl kh k g q ɂ⟩
/ɸ β s z ɬ l x ɣ χ ʁ/ ⟨f v s z ł l j ɣ x r⟩
/m n ŋ/ ⟨m n ŋ⟩

/ɛ œ ə ɪ ʏ/ ⟨è w y ì ỳ⟩

/æ̠ a o̯æ̠ u̯a/ ⟨ä a wä wa⟩
/ʌ̠ o̯ʌ̠ ɔ/ ⟨ö wö o⟩
/eɛ̯ øɶ̯/ ⟨ee we⟩
/ɛɪ œʏ ɔu/ ⟨ei ey ou⟩
/e̠ ø̠ o̠/ ⟨e ẃ o⟩
/ɪɛ̯ ʏœ̯ uɔ̯/ ⟨ie ye uo⟩
/i y ɯ u/ ⟨i ý ï u⟩
/oɪ̯ ɪu̯/ ⟨oi iu⟩

/V V̀/ ⟨V Vh⟩

Since I don’t feel like doing the whole of the first text, and the second text is too repetitive:

/bitɛɪ̯dəʔ ʁɪtɬʼø̠tɬʼø̠̀də tɬeɛ̯ tsʼʏœ̯p fæ̠̀vœ̀ tøɶ̯̀ læ̠ tsʼeɛ̯ kø̀ɶ̯tsʌ̠ʔ/
Bitheidyɂ ritlẃtlẃhdy tlhee cyeph fähvwh thweh lä cee kwehcöɂ,

/leɛ̯ dɮøɶ̯χ qʼø̠̀ vì ìʁxœtɬuɔ̯ leɛ̯ veɛ̯ vəu̯atχɔ̀u̯bœ̀ vɔu̯mgœnbʏn bɪ̀mɪɬəχtœn kɪu̯k tsʼʌ/
lee dlwex qẃh vih ihrxwtlhuo lee vee vywathxouhbwh voumgwnbỳn bìhmìlhyxthwn khiukh cö.

/dɮʏ̀χɔu̯zɪ tsɛɪ̯ vəʔo̠m ɔu̯ŋ | tɛɪ̯zidə̀ tɬʼœ̀ʏ̯ndœ nœʏ̯k tɛɪ̯k | tɬʼæn wànɯ-dœ̀=bʏn vɛ̀ɪ̯tɬɛɪ̯k/
Dlỳhxouzì chei vyɂom ouŋ, theizidyh tleyhndw neykh theikh, tlän wahnïdwh bỳn veihtlheikh.

(Gosh, isn’t this romanisation ugly?)

it's hard to make one that isn't, the best I can do is

/p pʼ b t tʼ d ts tsʼ dz tɬ tɬʼ dɮ k kʼ g qʼ ʔ/ <ph p b th t d ch ts dz tlh tl dl kh k g q ̈>
/ɸ β s z ɬ l x ɣ χ ʁ/ <f v s z lh l kh gh qh r>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ng>

/ɛ œ ə ɪ ʏ/ <e ue a i ui>

/æ̠ a o̯æ̠ u̯a/ <ê á oê uá>
/ʌ̠ o̯ʌ̠ ɔ/ <â oâ o>
/eɛ̯ øɶ̯/ <à uà>
/ɛɪ œʏ ɔu/ <é ué ó>
/e̠ ø̠ o̠/ <î oî û>
/ɪɛ̯ ʏœ̯ uɔ̯/ <ì uì ù>
/i y ɯ u/ <í uí ú uú>
/oɪ̯ ɪu̯/ <á iu>

low tone -b -d -g -h

/bitɛɪ̯dəʔ ʁɪtɬʼø̠tɬʼø̠̀də tɬeɛ̯ tsʼʏœ̯p fæ̠̀vœ̀ tøɶ̯̀ læ̠ tsʼeɛ̯ kø̀ɶ̯tsʌ̠ʔ | leɛ̯ dɮøɶ̯χ qʼø̠̀ vì ìʁxœtɬuɔ̯ leɛ̯ veɛ̯ vəu̯atχɔ̀u̯bœ̀ vɔu̯mgœn=bʏn bɪ̀mɪɬəχtœn kɪu̯k tsʼʌ || /dɮʏ̀χɔu̯zɪ tsɛɪ̯ vəʔo̠m ɔu̯ŋ | tɛɪ̯zidə̀ tɬʼœ̀ʏ̯ndœ nœʏ̯k tɛɪ̯k | tɬʼæn wànɯdœ̀=bʏn vɛ̀ɪ̯tɬɛɪ̯k/
Bíthédä ritloîtloîdda tlhà tsuìp fêhvueh thàh lê tsà khuàdtshâä, là dluàq qoîh víh irkhuetlhù là và vauátqhoubbueh vómguen buin bihmilhaqhtuen khiuk tsâ. Dluihqhózi ché väûm óng, thézídah tluénhdue nuék thék, tlên uáhnúdueh buin védtlhék.

there's a million possibilities but all of them are ugly.

/p pʼ b t tʼ d ts tsʼ dz tɬ tɬʼ dɮ k kʼ g qʼ ʔ/ <p p' b t t' d c c' dz th th' dl k k' g q '>
/ɸ β s z ɬ l x ɣ χ ʁ/ <f v s z lh l xh rh x r>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ng>

/ɛ œ ə ɪ ʏ/ <e ö a i ü>

/æ̠ a o̯æ̠ u̯a/ <ä â oä ua>
/ʌ̠ o̯ʌ̠ ɔ/ <ò oò o>
/eɛ̯ øɶ̯/ <ee öe>
/ɛɪ œʏ ɔu/ <ei öu ou>
/e̠ ø̠ o̠/ <ê ő ô>
/ɪɛ̯ ʏœ̯ uɔ̯/ <ie üo uo>
/i y ɯ u/ <î ű ï u>
/oɪ̯ ɪu̯/ <oi iu>
V V̀ <a ah>

bitɛɪ̯dəʔ ʁɪtɬʼø̠tɬʼø̠̀də tɬeɛ̯ tsʼʏœ̯p fæ̠̀vœ̀ tøɶ̯̀ læ̠ tsʼeɛ̯ kø̀ɶ̯tsʌ̠ʔ | leɛ̯ dɮøɶ̯χ qʼø̠̀ vì ìʁxœtɬuɔ̯ leɛ̯ veɛ̯ vəu̯atχɔ̀u̯bœ̀ vɔu̯mgœnbʏn bɪ̀mɪɬəχtœn kɪu̯k tsʼʌ || dɮʏ̀χɔu̯zɪ tsɛɪ̯ vəʔo̠m ɔu̯ŋ | tɛɪ̯zidə̀ tɬʼœ̀ʏ̯ndœ nœʏ̯k tɛɪ̯k | tɬʼæn wànɯ-dœ̀=bʏn vɛ̀ɪ̯tɬɛɪ̯k || ɪmkʼi ʁɪtɬʼø̠tɬʼø̠̀zɪ ʁəntsʏn tɛɪ̯bo̠ngən=tʼʏn χò̠dɛn xoɪ̯ lùɔ̯ tsʼeɛ̯ ʔœχøɶ̯ʁə̀ ɔu̯ŋ || zɛqʼèɛ̯ mɪɬəχtœ tɪnɪŋ tsʼeɛ | ɬʌ̠p ɣoɪ̯ʁœχ tɪnɪŋ tsʼeɛ̯ ʔœχøɶ̯ʁə̀ ɔu̯ŋ

Bîteida' rith'őth'őhda thee c'üop fähvöh töah lä c'ee köahcò', lee dlöax qőh vih ihxxhöthuo lee vee vauatxouhböh voumgönbün bihmilhaxtön kiuk c'ò. Dlühxouzi cei va'ôm oung, teizîdah th'öuhndö nöuk teik, th'än wahnïdöhbün veitheik. Imk'î rith'őth'őhzi rancün teibônggant'ün xôhden xoi luoh c'ee 'öxöarah oung. Zeqeeh milhaxtö tining c'ee, lhòp rhoiröx tining c'ee 'öxöarah oung.

dø̀ɶ̯ tɛɪ̯bo̠ŋgœ kʏœ̯ʔ χøɶχtœχ lùɔ̯ ɬà kʼʏ̀œ̯dè̠ nœʏ̯n tùɔ̯ || kʼʏ̀œ̯daχ fo̠m qʼø̠̀dœ dø̀ɶ̯ tɛɪ̯bo̠ŋgœn dɮe̠χ lùɔ̯ || tɛ̀ɪ̯pʼʌχ

Döah teibônggö küo' xöaxtöx luoh lhah k'üohdêh nöun tuoh. K'üohdax fôm qőhdö döa teibônggön dlêx luoh. Teihp'òx.

i've lost all my documentation for my langs from this relay with the demise of akanawiki. they should both be posted here, though, at least, though none of them were as crazy as tserzou

found the posts

Sallup:

/p t ʨ k q ʔ/ <p t ch k q '>
/b d ʥ ɡ/ <b d j g>
/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n ny ng>
/s ɕ h/ <s sh h>
/z ʑ/ <z zh>
/w r l j ʕ/ <w r l y gh>

/i u e ə o ɛ a ɔ/ <i u ei e o ae a ao>

/bitəjət giʨəʔət ʨa ʑanʨiʨ səjok sajəʨuk sa səʔ | bəʔ kit wat gassɔŋ wa ʥaʕ ʔiʨ=ʨat wa ləʕʕəwəq ʨapəkək=ʨaʔ gat səʔ || liʕɔw ʥikkok kit ʔumu sir tizɛ ʨanak=ʨat məjiɲ | ʨat ʨeɲ ʕəŋŋək ʨaʔ nəkəʕuŋ/

Biteyet giche'et cha zhanchich seyok sayechuk sa se', be' kit wat gassaong wa jagh 'ichchat wa leghgheweq chapekekcha' gat se'. Lighaow jikkok kit 'umu sir tizae chanakchat meyiny, chat cheiny ghengngek cha' nekeghung.

Srugthod:

/p pʰ t tʰ ts tsʰ k kʰ ʔ/ <p pʿ t tʿ c cʿ k kʿ ˀ>
/s z ʃ h/ <s z š h>
/m n r l j w/ <m n r l j w>

/i u ie uo e ə o æ a ɑ/ <i u ie uo e ə o ä ȧ a>

/pitʰietə ktəʃʔətʰi ninkut suopsotnikun ksɑsjuhi ksænisik | ktəpir pu ut kʰieksuo pinkɑməʃ nuotʰwəʃkʰuzi unʔukʰuokrohəzi hkɑtu ksæni || prəʃkʰuowhi kʰinkʰɑn kʰumsirnəsik tʰiezojnikun pinrəhit kmieknəsik kæn huknikʰut nenkʰɑt kʰihrakni/

Pitʿietǝ ktǝšˀǝtʿi ninkut suopsotnikun ksasjuhi ksänisik, ktǝpir pu ut kʿieksuo pinkamǝš nuotʿwǝškʿuzi unˀukʿuokrohǝzi hkatu ksäni. Prǝškʿuowhi kʿinkʿan kʿumsirnǝsik tʿiezojnikun pinrǝhit kmieknǝsik kän huknikʿut nenkʿat kʿihrȧkni.

Karch wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 11:39 am none of them were as crazy as tserzou

Tserzou has some processes involving semivowels, but it's not that crazy. I'll see if I can remember how it works.

a ɤ i u ɐ ʌ ɪ ʊ ɛ ɔ
a e i u
ạ ẹ ị ụ
ey ew

/ɛ œ ə ɪ ʏ/ <e we ӛ ə wə>

/æ̠ a o̯æ̠ u̯a/ <ay a way wa>
/ʌ̠ o̯ʌ̠ ɔ/ <ä wä aw>
/eɛ̯ øɶ̯/ <ya wya>
/ɛɪ œʏ ɔu/ <iy wiy uw>
/e̠ ø̠ o̠/ <ï wï ü>
/ɪɛ̯ ʏœ̯ uɔ̯/ <yi wyi wu>
/i y ɯ u/ <i wi o u>
/oɪ̯ ɪu̯/ <oy ow>
V V̀ <a/ap/ak/aq ad/ab/ag/ar>

bitɛɪ̯dəʔ ʁɪtɬʼø̠tɬʼø̠̀də tɬeɛ̯ tsʼʏœ̯p fæ̠̀vœ̀ tøɶ̯̀ læ̠ tsʼeɛ̯ kø̀ɶ̯tsʌ̠ʔ | leɛ̯ dɮøɶ̯χ qʼø̠̀ vì ìʁxœtɬuɔ̯ leɛ̯ veɛ̯ vəu̯atχɔ̀u̯bœ̀ vɔu̯mgœnbʏn bɪ̀mɪɬəχtœn kɪu̯k tsʼʌ || dɮʏ̀χɔu̯zɪ tsɛɪ̯ vəʔo̠m ɔu̯ŋ | tɛɪ̯zidə̀ tɬʼœ̀ʏ̯ndœ nœʏ̯k tɛɪ̯k | tɬʼæn wànɯ-dœ̀=bʏn vɛ̀ɪ̯tɬɛɪ̯k || ɪmkʼi ʁɪtɬʼø̠tɬʼø̠̀zɪ ʁəntsʏn tɛɪ̯bo̠ngən=tʼʏn χò̠dɛn xoɪ̯ lùɔ̯ tsʼeɛ̯ ʔœχøɶ̯ʁə̀ ɔu̯ŋ || zɛqʼèɛ̯ mɪɬəχtœ tɪnɪŋ tsʼeɛ | ɬʌ̠p ɣoɪ̯ʁœχ tɪnɪŋ tsʼeɛ̯ ʔœχøɶ̯ʁə̀ ɔu̯ŋ

Bitiydӛʔ ritlʼwïtlʼwïdda tlya tsʼwyip faydvwed twyad lay tsʼya kwyadtsäʔ, lya dlwyaq qʼwịd vid irxwetlwu lya vya vӛwatqoudbwed vuwmgwen bwən bidmilhӛq twen kowk tsʼä. Dlwədquwzə tsiy vӛʔüm uwŋ, tiyzidӛd tlʼwiyndwe nwiyk tiyk, tlʼayn wadnodwed bwin viydtliyk. Əmkʼi ritlʼwïtlʼwïdzə rӛntswin tiybüngӛn tʼwin qüdden xoy lwud tsʼya ʔweqwyarӛd uwŋ. Zeqʼyad məlӛqtwe tənəŋ tsʼya, lhäp ghoyrweq tiniŋ tsʼya ʔweqwyarӛd ouŋ.

Something like that. The idea was that initial/medial yod was absorbed by the following vowel. Then wV[+front] > V[+front +round], which isn't even listed in my sound changes because I added it while i was writing the wiki page.

/p pʼ b t tʼ d ts tsʼ dz tɬ tɬʼ dɮ k kʼ g qʼ ʔ/ ⟨ph p b th t d ch c ʒ çh ç ł kh k g qu quh⟩
/ɸ β s z ɬ l x ɣ χ ʁ/ ⟨f v s(s) z lh l jh j x r⟩
/m n ŋ/ ⟨m n ng⟩
/mg ng/ ⟨mpg mg⟩

Short vowels:
/ɛ œ ə ɪ ʏ/ ⟨e/è u a i o⟩
final ⟨e⟩ is silent (inserted after all multigraphs and ⟨s x⟩)

Long vowels:
/æ̠ a o̯æ̠ u̯a/ ⟨ea ai oi oe⟩
/ʌ̠ o̯ʌ̠ ɔ/ ⟨eu œu ô⟩
/eɛ̯ øɶ̯/ ⟨ê û⟩
/ɛɪ œʏ ɔu/ ⟨ei ou au⟩
/e̠ ø̠ o̠/ ⟨é eû â⟩
/ɪɛ̯ ʏœ̯ uɔ̯/ ⟨ië uë oë⟩
/i y ɯ u/ ⟨î ù eù où⟩
/oɪ̯ ɪu̯/ ⟨oï eü⟩

V V̀ ⟨V Vs⟩

/bitɛɪ̯dəʔ ʁɪtɬʼø̠tɬʼø̠̀də tɬeɛ̯ tsʼʏœ̯p fæ̠̀vœ̀ tøɶ̯̀ læ̠ tsʼeɛ̯ kø̀ɶ̯tsʌ̠ʔ | leɛ̯ dɮøɶ̯χ qʼø̠̀ vì ìʁxœtɬuɔ̯ leɛ̯ veɛ̯ vəu̯atχɔ̀u̯bœ̀ vɔu̯mgœnbʏn bɪ̀mɪɬəχtœn kɪu̯k tsʼʌ || dɮʏ̀χɔu̯zɪ tsɛɪ̯ vəʔo̠m ɔu̯ŋ | tɛɪ̯zidə̀ tɬʼœ̀ʏ̯ndœ nœʏ̯k tɛɪ̯k | tɬʼæn wànɯ-dœ̀=bʏn vɛ̀ɪ̯tɬɛɪ̯k || ɪmkʼi ʁɪtɬʼø̠tɬʼø̠̀zɪ ʁəntsʏn tɛɪ̯bo̠ngən=tʼʏn χò̠dɛn xoɪ̯ lùɔ̯ tsʼeɛ̯ ʔœχøɶ̯ʁə̀ ɔu̯ŋ || zɛqʼèɛ̯ mɪɬəχtœ tɪnɪŋ tsʼeɛ | ɬʌ̠p ɣoɪ̯ʁœχ tɪnɪŋ tsʼeɛ̯ ʔœχøɶ̯ʁə̀ ɔu̯ŋ/
Bîtheidaquhe riçeûçeûsda çhê cuëphe feasvus thû lea cê khûscheuquhe, lê łûxe queûs vîs îsrjhuçhoë lê vê vaoetxausbus vaumpgunbon bismilhaxtun kheükhe çeu. Łosxauzi chei vaquhâm aunge, theizîdas çousndu noukhe theikhe, çean waisneù-dus'bon veisçheikhe. Imkî riçeûçeûszi ranchon theibâmgan'ton xâsden jhoï loës cê quhuxûras aunge. Zequês milhaxthu thininge cê, lheuphe joïruxe thininge cê quhuxûras aunge.

/dø̀ɶ̯ tɛɪ̯bo̠ŋgœ kʏœ̯ʔ χøɶχtœχ lùɔ̯ ɬà kʼʏ̀œ̯dè̠ nœʏ̯n tùɔ̯ || kʼʏ̀œ̯daχ fo̠m qʼø̠̀dœ dø̀ɶ̯ tɛɪ̯bo̠ŋgœn dɮe̠χ lùɔ̯ || tɛ̀ɪ̯pʼʌχ tɛ̀ɪ̯pʼʌχ tɛ̀ɪ̯pʼʌχ tɛ̀ɪ̯pʼʌχ tɛ̀ɪ̯pʼʌχ tɛ̀ɪ̯pʼʌχ tɛ̀ɪ̯pʼʌχ/
Dûs theibânggu khuëquhe xûxtuxe loës lhais kuësdés noun thoës. Kuësdaixe fâm queûsdu dûs theibânggun łéxe loë. Theispeuxe theispeuxe theispeuxe theispeuxe theispeuxe theispeuxe.