Zompist Bboard Again

xxx wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2024 10:52 am

Man in Space wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2024 10:38 am

WeepingElf wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2024 10:32 am
I count twenty-six boxes, and "L" is there - the left box in the second row counting from the top.

The joke was that it ought to be 25 with Noël.

it rather ought to be 31 with lexember...

but since we'd be filling rather than emptying the calendar,
we could double-fill 5 letters...

I was just about to make a very impromptu Lexember thread, but this looks fun—and we could just make the last 5 days of the month a free-for-all. Make the thread and I'll join in.

I have begun the re-digitization of the extant Caber logograms. Some are getting updated, all are being set against the grid. I’m also redoing the horizontal spacing on many of them for a less rigidly blocky, slightly more fluid look. Currently, I’ve gotten the first 260 done.

I also plan to make new glyphs and more formally codify the phonetic radicals (and invent new phonetics as necessary, particularly in light of the new phonotactics).

And now I've gotten all of the first 834 non-prepositional Caber glyphs digitized.

I have laid out the basics of Rihall Kaafi dialects, especially with regard to phonology. I decided to add a new set of affricate phonemes in Proto-Rihall Kaafi which are only directly inherited in some modern dialects, but in particular not in the standard language, so I decided to go back and modify some of the lexicon to include these new phonemes dialectally.

Two big accomplishments so far in the new year: I've been successfully restraining myself to doing only a little bit a day instead of long exhausting bouts of hyperfocus, and I've realized that fighting my own aesthetic preferences for the sake of avoiding being "too european" was actually making me miserable and stressed out and not have fun, so this time instead I'm leaning into it and I'm liking the results so much more.

I have, so far, created 75 phonetic CV radicals for Caber.

Actually, the day before yesterday, but I somehow failed to post:

A word for a central part of Old Albic social thinking. The word is yrgidrámamintih 'circular process thinking' (German Kreislaufdenken). It is a compound of:

- yrgih 'wheel, circle' < PIE *Hwrgis
- drámah 'track, course' < PIE *drómos
- mintih 'thought' < PIE *mentis

nice, i can adapt it to 3SDL:
z¨=¨F½
(thought traveling a disk...)

WeepingElf wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 6:13 am Actually, the day before yesterday, but I somehow failed to post:

A word for a central part of Old Albic social thinking. The word is yrgidrámamintih 'circular process thinking' (German Kreislaufdenken). It is a compound of:

- yrgih 'wheel, circle' < PIE *Hwrgis
- drámah 'track, course' < PIE *drómos
- mintih 'thought' < PIE *mentis

I am not familiar with the concept of "circular process thinking"; if possible, can you provide a definition? (I can think of a couple of possible interpretations, but I am not sure whether they are correct.)

Glenn wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:43 pm

WeepingElf wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 6:13 am Actually, the day before yesterday, but I somehow failed to post:

A word for a central part of Old Albic social thinking. The word is yrgidrámamintih 'circular process thinking' (German Kreislaufdenken). It is a compound of:

- yrgih 'wheel, circle' < PIE *Hwrgis
- drámah 'track, course' < PIE *drómos
- mintih 'thought' < PIE *mentis

I am not familiar with the concept of "circular process thinking"; if possible, can you provide a definition? (I can think of a couple of possible interpretations, but I am not sure whether they are correct.)

Well, it is the notion that all matter is subject to circular processes in nature, being reused and recycled all the time, and that we humans should also consider this and reuse what we have used.

I have been messing with the pronominal forms and the nominal/adjectival declension. I made the existence of construct state (yeah I stole that from Semitic I know) more explicit and reworked the case endings.

A belated response:

WeepingElf wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2025 6:13 am

Glenn wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:43 pm I am not familiar with the concept of "circular process thinking"; if possible, can you provide a definition? (I can think of a couple of possible interpretations, but I am not sure whether they are correct.)

Well, it is the notion that all matter is subject to circular processes in nature, being reused and recycled all the time, and that we humans should also consider this and reuse what we have used.

Thank you for the explanation! It's not one of the possible interpretations that I had come up with, but it makes sense in the light of the other things you have said about Old Albic and its speakers.

forcing myself to only create a few new roots every day is very hard but i think it's helping with the burnout! i've been slowly but steadily working through my list of semantic concepts i want to create distinct basic roots for in the proto-language, and designing both the root and the proto-logogram together for each.

Sometimes simplicity is the best policy, so I have reduced the case morphology to this: I really like the vocative and the equative, so they are no matter what. But I don't really need fancy cases like datives, instrumentals, locatives and ablatives. No, instead those functions will be handled by prepositional phases.

Originally I had it that the genitive case would be distinguished in the construct state, but I did not like the result when constructs are in series, so instead the vocalic ending is dependent on if the last two consonants are a nasal and stop pair or if possessive suffixes are attached to a penultimately stressed noun

The 1'000th Caber logogram: vnuo 'thirty-six'

I have decided that the Old Albic future tense is formed with the suffix -í- between the stem and the personal ending. The ancient Elven grammarians already connected this to the verb í- 'want' < Early PIE *yeh₁-; thus it is cognate to the Late PIE optative suffix *-yeh₁-/-ih₁-.

I wrote a script to help convert my hand-written Rihalle Kaafi vocabulary into HTML and uploaded my vocabulary to my Neocities site.

I have collected what I have written about Rihalle Kaafi into the beginnings of a basic grammar.

Nice stuff, looks promising.