Re: Happy things thread!
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 2:42 am
…and now it’s been published! Read it (or don’t, if you so choose) at https://doi.org/10.1364/OE.485647.
…and now it’s been published! Read it (or don’t, if you so choose) at https://doi.org/10.1364/OE.485647.
Oh, an applied topic from an earth science field? Great!bradrn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 2:42 am…and now it’s been published! Read it (or don’t, if you so choose) at https://doi.org/10.1364/OE.485647.
Congratulations!bradrn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 2:42 am …and now it’s been published! Read it (or don’t, if you so choose) at https://doi.org/10.1364/OE.485647.
Congrats!bradrn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 2:42 am…and now it’s been published! Read it (or don’t, if you so choose) at https://doi.org/10.1364/OE.485647.
Nope, this is from the former Department of Physics, and the system only works in the lab at the moment… that being said, we’re in contact with the Marine Science people too.Raphael wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 5:44 amOh, an applied topic from an earth science field? Great!bradrn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 2:42 am…and now it’s been published! Read it (or don’t, if you so choose) at https://doi.org/10.1364/OE.485647.
This is the change that I have been really waiting for here in WI myself - in addition to the likely legalization of abortion, this may see the undoing of the Republican domination of the state legislature and the WI US congressional districts.
Oh, congrats! Always nice to see when an article goes online. Not in my field, but I recognize quite a few things from what coworkers do/have done. (Your screen name also makes more sense now. :P)bradrn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 2:42 am…and now it’s been published! Read it (or don’t, if you so choose) at https://doi.org/10.1364/OE.485647.
Congratulations! Looks very interesting.doctor shark wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:57 am Also, my article with students also went online quite recently. Publications all around!
Authorship can often be a complicated mess. My boss is actually the last author: I'm first author because I wrote the article and did about half the experiments. So I'm double-duty as both first author and a supervisor, with my students in the middle because they did about half the experiments (and not so much the writing), but it felt bad to leave them off since they gave me very usable data (and my boss was cool at first with the idea of having them be co-authors, but that's the advantage of writing the paper myself :P). The one student is in the second position because he did all the statistical analysis, so that was clearly far and above what the other two did and there was no question of him going in the second author slot. In contrast, with this new paper I'm writing from my one student's thesis, he will be the first author or shared first author with me (but he's going in the cosmetic first author position in the event of a co-authorship because he deserves it). The two overlords of the work, the professors, will be in the corresponding author positions and the last authors, while I, as a lowly postdoc, am not yet to the level of last author.bradrn wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:57 pmCongratulations! Looks very interesting.doctor shark wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:57 am Also, my article with students also went online quite recently. Publications all around!
By the way, is the convention in your field to put the students last? The convention I’m familiar with (in both chemistry and physics) is to put the students first and the supervisors last.
This is precisely the same convention I’m familiar with. For the paper I linked, I’m in a similar situation to your students: I didn’t do the writing or most of the simulations, but I did create the initial version of the simulation and participate in discussions all through the writing process. (And now that I’ve finished all my coursework, I’ve been able to work on the simulation again! Though obviously that’s far too late to make it into the paper.)doctor shark wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 3:03 pm Ultimately, the author position is somewhat a parabola in my field: outer authors (first and last) are the most involved, while the middle authors are generally the least involved.
That's for the follow-up, though, right? :P Also, the amount of headache involved in paper writing often is exponential with the number of authors, even if those other authors aren't directly involved in the paper writing as much as others. I'm currently transforming a student's thesis into a paper, and we have seven authors total... yeah, should be an adventure.bradrn wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 3:16 pmThis is precisely the same convention I’m familiar with. For the paper I linked, I’m in a similar situation to your students: I didn’t do the writing or most of the simulations, but I did create the initial version of the simulation and participate in discussions all through the writing process. (And now that I’ve finished all my coursework, I’ve been able to work on the simulation again! Though obviously that’s far too late to make it into the paper.)doctor shark wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 3:03 pm Ultimately, the author position is somewhat a parabola in my field: outer authors (first and last) are the most involved, while the middle authors are generally the least involved.
Eventually, maybe, but for the moment it’s for my Master’s thesis.doctor shark wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:58 pmThat's for the follow-up, though, right?bradrn wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 3:16 pmThis is precisely the same convention I’m familiar with. For the paper I linked, I’m in a similar situation to your students: I didn’t do the writing or most of the simulations, but I did create the initial version of the simulation and participate in discussions all through the writing process. (And now that I’ve finished all my coursework, I’ve been able to work on the simulation again! Though obviously that’s far too late to make it into the paper.)doctor shark wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 3:03 pm Ultimately, the author position is somewhat a parabola in my field: outer authors (first and last) are the most involved, while the middle authors are generally the least involved.
Well, I'm glad that it made you happy! It would probably have freaked me out.Man in Space wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:15 am Today, I stage dove and crowd surfed for the first time in my life.
fucking aye bro!Man in Space wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:31 pm BY SOME MIRACLE I GOT A WOMAN’S NUMBER TONIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!