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linguistcat wrote: ↑Sat Jul 12, 2025 10:56 am

Raphael wrote: ↑Fri Jul 11, 2025 10:36 am

linguistcat wrote: ↑Fri Jul 11, 2025 10:23 am
Likewise, a pint and a liter are pretty close in volume.

Are you sure you don't mean a quart and a liter?

You're right, a pint is more like 500ml. I just remembered there was a pretty easy conversion between them if you're not being exacting.

Fun fact: a US pint is just under 500 ml; a British pint is a bit over 500 ml. (Yay confusion. :P)

In France a pint is exactly 500ml,
and in Belgium 250ml...

In SA a pint is mysteriously 425 mL, unlike anywhere else in the world.

doctor shark wrote: ↑Sun Jul 13, 2025 7:06 am

linguistcat wrote: ↑Sat Jul 12, 2025 10:56 am

Raphael wrote: ↑Fri Jul 11, 2025 10:36 am

Are you sure you don't mean a quart and a liter?

You're right, a pint is more like 500ml. I just remembered there was a pretty easy conversion between them if you're not being exacting.

Fun fact: a US pint is just under 500 ml; a British pint is a bit over 500 ml. (Yay confusion. )

AFAIK, both are 1/8 of a gallon (the quart is named quart because it is 1/4 of a gallon) - and in the US, the gallon is a bit less then 4 liters, and in the UK a bit more than 4 liters.

doctor shark wrote: ↑Sun Jul 13, 2025 7:06 am
Fun fact: a US pint is just under 500 ml; a British pint is a bit over 500 ml. (Yay confusion. )

There's a brief point in Orwell's 1984 where it's a minor plot point that a pint is more than half a liter. Makes me wonder what US readers made of that.

In France, for beer, 125ml is a galopin (brat), 250ml is a demi (half), 500ml a sérieux (serious), 1000ml a formidable...

Raphael wrote: ↑Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:27 am There's a brief point in Orwell's 1984 where it's a minor plot point that a pint is more than half a liter. Makes me wonder what US readers made of that.rat)

It's an attack on the metric system...
here it shows its superiority as soon as you cross borders...

Darren wrote: ↑Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:08 am In SA a pint is mysteriously 425 mL, unlike anywhere else in the world.

what country is SA...

WeepingElf wrote: ↑Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:22 am

doctor shark wrote: ↑Sun Jul 13, 2025 7:06 am

linguistcat wrote: ↑Sat Jul 12, 2025 10:56 am

You're right, a pint is more like 500ml. I just remembered there was a pretty easy conversion between them if you're not being exacting.

Fun fact: a US pint is just under 500 ml; a British pint is a bit over 500 ml. (Yay confusion. :P)

AFAIK, both are 1/8 of a gallon (the quart is named quart because it is 1/4 of a gallon) - and in the US, the gallon is a bit less then 4 liters, and in the UK a bit more than 4 liters.

They are, yes, so the sizes of quarts (I never saw that used in the UK, but it's used extensively in the US) and gallons are propagated accordingly. Where it gets challenging is in the definitions of the smaller units:

• an imperial pint (568.26 ml) is 20 imperial fluid ounces (each is 28.413 ml)
• a US customary pint (473.18 ml) is 16 US fluid ounces (each is 29.574 ml)

Most of the other imperial-style units are mostly the same, but some of the usage is different: in the UK, for example, when talking about distances on roads, my memory is that they generally use miles and yards, while the US usage prefers miles and feet.

doctor shark wrote: ↑Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:08 pm in the UK, for example, when talking about distances on roads, my memory is that they generally use miles and yards, while the US usage prefers miles and feet.

Interesting. What are yards used for in the USA, then? OK, there's field divisions in American football, but aside from that?

Raphael wrote: ↑Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:23 pm

doctor shark wrote: ↑Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:08 pm in the UK, for example, when talking about distances on roads, my memory is that they generally use miles and yards, while the US usage prefers miles and feet.

Interesting. What are yards used for in the USA, then? OK, there's field divisions in American football, but aside from that?

from the edge of one [British] garden to the opposite edge.
(sorry)

xxx wrote: ↑Sun Jul 13, 2025 10:43 am In France, for beer, 125ml is a galopin (brat), 250ml is a demi (half), 500ml a sérieux (serious), 1000ml a formidable...

Raphael wrote: ↑Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:27 am There's a brief point in Orwell's 1984 where it's a minor plot point that a pint is more than half a liter. Makes me wonder what US readers made of that.rat)

It's an attack on the metric system...
here it shows its superiority as soon as you cross borders...

Darren wrote: ↑Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:08 am In SA a pint is mysteriously 425 mL, unlike anywhere else in the world.

what country is SA...

It'''s South Australia (((in Australia)))... The rest of Australia uses a rounded imperial pint... It'''s a ploy by pubs to sell you 25%%% less beer for the same amount of money...

Raphael wrote: ↑Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:23 pm

doctor shark wrote: ↑Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:08 pm in the UK, for example, when talking about distances on roads, my memory is that they generally use miles and yards, while the US usage prefers miles and feet.

Interesting. What are yards used for in the USA, then? OK, there's field divisions in American football, but aside from that?

In my experience, sometimes fabrics, ribbons, and chain links are sold by the yard, but that's all that directly comes to mind for me.

doctor shark wrote: ↑Tue Jul 15, 2025 12:16 pm

Raphael wrote: ↑Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:23 pm

doctor shark wrote: ↑Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:08 pm in the UK, for example, when talking about distances on roads, my memory is that they generally use miles and yards, while the US usage prefers miles and feet.

Interesting. What are yards used for in the USA, then? OK, there's field divisions in American football, but aside from that?

In my experience, sometimes fabrics, ribbons, and chain links are sold by the yard, but that's all that directly comes to mind for me.

When I saw you post in this thread I for a second was expecting more specimen images of lucre ─ lol.

doctor shark wrote: ↑Tue Jul 15, 2025 12:16 pm

Raphael wrote: ↑Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:23 pm

doctor shark wrote: ↑Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:08 pm in the UK, for example, when talking about distances on roads, my memory is that they generally use miles and yards, while the US usage prefers miles and feet.

Interesting. What are yards used for in the USA, then? OK, there's field divisions in American football, but aside from that?

In my experience, sometimes fabrics, ribbons, and chain links are sold by the yard, but that's all that directly comes to mind for me.

Thank you!

Travis B. wrote: ↑Tue Jul 15, 2025 6:58 pm

doctor shark wrote: ↑Tue Jul 15, 2025 12:16 pm

Raphael wrote: ↑Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:23 pm

Interesting. What are yards used for in the USA, then? OK, there's field divisions in American football, but aside from that?

In my experience, sometimes fabrics, ribbons, and chain links are sold by the yard, but that's all that directly comes to mind for me.

When I saw you post in this thread I for a second was expecting more specimen images of lucre ─ lol.

Et voilà.

Money!

What's the in-universe explanation for the combination of the rather Middle Eastern script and the fairly European-looking eagle and winged human figurine?

Raphael wrote: ↑Wed Jul 16, 2025 3:18 pm What's the in-universe explanation for the combination of the rather Middle Eastern script and the fairly European-looking eagle and winged human figurine?

The long story short is that the country in question (Oshaharu) is a bit of a strange mix of things. The script is partly featural based on the consonant sounds and was originally designed for a different, more semitic version of the language (but since I liked the script, even when the language changed, I decided to keep it). Culturally and historically, pre-revolution (they had a socialist revolution), they had a monarchy which draws a lot of inspiration from Roman and Arab history (and, as an island, they're quite separated from Telemor and Ilia), and the eagle is a traditional symbol of the country (much like in Central Asia). However, with the socialist revolution, the banknotes were designed to feature more motifs of that nature: the statue on the 5-pjew represents the harvest and the 20-pjew features an allegory of victory. (A bit like how Russian/Soviet banknotes and art continued to feature motifs of harvest and victory in various kinds.)

Thank you, interesting!

Also, related to the latest money I've been sharing, I slightly revamped the numbers for the Oshaharu language and decided to do a small write-up on them. I've been a bit loath to share due to certain past experiences, but I guess I mind less now that the language is a bit better developed.

doctor shark wrote: ↑Wed Jul 16, 2025 6:10 pm Also, related to the latest money I've been sharing, I slightly revamped the numbers for the Oshaharu language and decided to do a small write-up on them. I've been a bit loath to share due to certain past experiences, but I guess I mind less now that the language is a bit better developed.

More: show

There are a few irregularities in the formation of numbers, though it fundamentally is a system that combines Mayan base 5/20 and the western base 10/100 systems. Notably, the names for each of the key numbers, 1, 5, and 20, have additional meanings: ko (1) also means digit; pá (5) hand or foot; and shúj (20) body.
You may also have noticed that Oshaharu has two flavors of script: the more loopy script which I've previously posted, more commonly used in handwriting, and this blockier version that appears more in printing and typing.

Ooh! I want to guess some of the gaps in the numbers! This is very nice btw