Zompist Bboard Again

A little project I've just begun... Both for light-hearted fun, and to have a reference something in between the Reference Grammar and the morphological summary. I've probably got a lot wrong already.

NB I took the liberty of resurrecting babec as a dialectal verb meaning something like ‘to go to the city and open your mouth to try to say something but realise you will come across as a complete bumpkin, so stop’. This may be a bad idea!

I also made loglauneo from loglaunan; I'm not sure if this was the right process or not.

Please feel free to advise/guide!

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SO PAV ONEMU LOGLAUNIË SOEI SFAHEI
Šm Caizure

Edit: access permission should be sorted now

sasasha wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:11 am SO PAV ONEMU LOGLAUNEEI SOEI SFAHEI
Šm Caizure

All I get is a login mask. The document is not public.

WeepingElf wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:56 am

sasasha wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:11 am SO PAV ONEMU LOGLAUNEEI SOEI SFAHEI
Šm Caizure

All I get is a login mask. The document is not public.

Huh. Weird. I now get an error message when trying to manage access saying “Can't share item”. Will investigate... (Edit: hope it's fine now)

Nice work! Your Verdurian is definitely very good.

Some minor errors:
-- the plural of log is loži; this applies to derivatives like etalóg
-- "first person" is cot sfahecei, not sfahacei
-- you have ᴆ for (I assume) Ď

I'm not sure what you need "loglauneo" for... for the title I'd have "...onemu loglaunië...".

I didn't double-check the declensions.

zompist wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 4:45 pm Nice work! Your Verdurian is definitely very good.

Some minor errors:
-- the plural of log is loži; this applies to derivatives like etalóg
-- "first person" is cot sfahecei, not sfahacei
-- you have ᴆ for (I assume) Ď

I'm not sure what you need "loglauneo" for... for the title I'd have "...onemu loglaunië...".

I didn't double-check the declensions.

Thanks! Those are sorted now.

Just to double check, the alternate stems in -ž- etc are only for the plural, never singular endings with front vowels?

I'm not sure what I thought I needed "loglauneo" for either, now!!

Sadly there's no workable small caps Ď. I used ᴆ as a stop-gap until I can solve that. (I've tried to emulate Verdurian printing conventions, ready for a later version in Verdurian script.)

Now for some mevložî...

sasasha wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:04 am Sadly there's no workable small caps Ď. I used ᴆ as a stop-gap until I can solve that.

Why not use ᴅ̌ (small caps D and combining caron?)

When I tried that the caron always went to the right. I thought it was a Unicode issue but turns out it's just Arial. Thanks!

sasasha wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:04 am Just to double check, the alternate stems in -ž- etc are only for the plural, never singular endings with front vowels?

Correct!

sasasha wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 11:58 am When I tried that the caron always went to the right. I thought it was a Unicode issue but turns out it's just Arial. Thanks!

Calibri, Gentium, Charis SIL and Noto Serif all seem to support this correctly. (As does Iosevka, which as a monospace font would be perfect for your usecase… but alas, it doesn’t seem to be on Google Fonts.)

But blaming Unicode for this isn’t quite right. As in a previous discussion we had, this is the responsibility of the font shaper, which positions characters relative to each other. If the combining diacritic is in the wrong place, that means the shaper is broken — as an unfortunately large number of them are.