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How do you say numbers like "101"? Like "one hundred and one" or "one hundred one"? I say "one hundred and one". Math teachers at school told us not to say "and" in numbers like "101", "102", "103", etc. telling us that the "and" implies a decimal. That seems like a bunch of nonsense to me as we would generally use "point" for decimals, not "and".

Space60 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:00 pm How do you say numbers like "101"? Like "one hundred and one" or "one hundred one"? I say "one hundred and one". Math teachers at school told us not to say "and" in numbers like "101", "102", "103", etc. telling us that the "and" implies a decimal. That seems like a bunch of nonsense to me as we would generally use "point" for decimals, not "and".

"one hundred one" is very American, and sounds odd to my ears.

The LORD mandates "one hundred and one", and allows "a hundred and one" in some cases.

I think I vaguely remember a discussion of that very topic somewhere on the ZBB.

I think the most unmarked wording is "a hundred and one."

Higher hundreds don't have an article, and that can carry over: if I was reading the sequence "476, 312, 101"— a series of numbers, not one number in the millions— the last one would be "one hundred and one."

And of course numbers as labels may be read digit by digit— e.g. a room number might be "one oh one".

Where on Earth does "one hundred and five" imply 100.5?

Darren wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:09 pm

Space60 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:00 pm How do you say numbers like "101"? Like "one hundred and one" or "one hundred one"? I say "one hundred and one". Math teachers at school told us not to say "and" in numbers like "101", "102", "103", etc. telling us that the "and" implies a decimal. That seems like a bunch of nonsense to me as we would generally use "point" for decimals, not "and".

"one hundred one" is very American, and sounds odd to my ears.

I'm American and "one hundred one" sounds odd to me. I have only typically heard it used in math class where the teacher insisted that "and" not be used in such numbers.

Moose-tache wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 3:17 pm Where on Earth does "one hundred and five" imply 100.5?

Yeah, really. I would say that as "one hundred point five". I have never heard of "and" being used there.

"A hundred and one" or "one hundred and one". "A hundred one" or "one hundred one" sound emphatically wrong to my ears, and I'm an American. The only time I omit the "and" in numbers like that is when writing checks. Normally for the decimal point, outside of check-writing, I use "point", not "and".

I have never heard those dogs being referred to as "one hundred one Dalmatians".

That's wierd. "one hundred one" just feels *so* American. Like "faucet" or "sodder" or intransitive "with".

In my experience "one hundred one" and the like is uncommon in America outside of math classes and among people other than math teachers who for some strange reason insist that saying "and" in such numbers in incorrect.

Space60 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 5:51 pm In my experience "one hundred one" and the like is uncommon in America outside of math classes and among people other than math teachers who for some strange reason insist that saying "and" in such numbers in incorrect.

Seconded. I was taught that “and” separated the whole from the partial (“two and two-sixteenths”, “one and one-fifth”), a rule which was promptly ignored by all of us.

one oh one, or one hundred and one.
or ciento uno
or quatre-vingt vingt et un

Moose-tache wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 3:17 pm Where on Earth does "one hundred and five" imply 100.5?

Not 100.5, but maybe $100.05?

Qwynegold wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:12 pm

Moose-tache wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 3:17 pm Where on Earth does "one hundred and five" imply 100.5?

Not 100.5, but maybe $100.05?

And who does that? We want names and addresses.

The normal way to say $49.95 is "forty-nine ninety-five". $100.05 is a little tricky— "one hundred (and) five" would be 105— you'd probably have to say "one hundred [pause] and five cents". Or explicitly say "dollars".

zompist wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:37 pm

Qwynegold wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:12 pm

Moose-tache wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 3:17 pm Where on Earth does "one hundred and five" imply 100.5?

Not 100.5, but maybe $100.05?

And who does that? We want names and addresses.

The normal way to say $49.95 is "forty-nine ninety-five". $100.05 is a little tricky— "one hundred (and) five" would be 105— you'd probably have to say "one hundred [pause] and five cents". Or explicitly say "dollars".

I would say “a hundred-oh-five”.

zompist wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:37 pm

Qwynegold wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:12 pm

Moose-tache wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 3:17 pm Where on Earth does "one hundred and five" imply 100.5?

Not 100.5, but maybe $100.05?

And who does that? We want names and addresses.

The normal way to say $49.95 is "forty-nine ninety-five". $100.05 is a little tricky— "one hundred (and) five" would be 105— you'd probably have to say "one hundred [pause] and five cents". Or explicitly say "dollars".

I'm in agreement here in both cases.