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Plateau languages scratchpad

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:03 pm
by Skookum
Decided to write out some ideas that have been bouncing around in my head for a few months now. This is a conlang family set in a region similar to the Interior Plateau area of western North America. It is a relatively dry zone between an extremely large mountain range to the north and a smaller range to the south that separates it from the coast. The languages here are part of a fairly shallow family (~2500-3000 years old) that is divided into two subbranches: the Highland branch spoken in alpine regions and the foothills of the northern moutains, and the Lowland branch spoken in the large river valleys fed by glacier meltwater from the north.

The Plateau people are mostly nomadic hunter-gatherers, although the Lowland peoples are more sedentary and practice some horticulture. The Proto-Plateau speakers were certainly hunter-gatherers, as there are no reconstructable words for domesticated plants/animals other than the word for "dog". There has been a lot of contact across the mountains between Lowland speakers and peoples on the Coast, whose languages belong to several families in a tight knit sprachbund, and there has been linguistic and cultural diffusion going both ways for centuries.

Some of the IRL influences of this family are pretty obvious; the proto-phonology is basically that of Proto-Iroquoian minus /n/ and plus /ɣ/. Some other influences are Inuit-Yupik-Unangan, Salish, and Indo-European.

Proto-Plateau phonology

Consonants
AlveolarPalatalVelarLabiovelarGlottal
Stop*t(*č¹)*k*kʷ
Fricative*s*h
Resonant*r*y*w
¹: Occurs only in morphophonogical alternation with *y, and in a handful of nominal/adjectival roots, all with diminutive or onomatopoeic associations (eg., *čõkʷəkʷ crow, raven, *tu:čẽh grey (cf. *tu:kẽh black), *ča:ča: little sister (cf. *ka:ɣa: older sister)).
²: The rhotic is reconstructed as an alveolar approximant, since this is the reflex it has in languages where it doesn’t shift to /l/ or disappear.

Vowels [
FrontCentralBack
Close*i *i:*u *u:
Mid*ẽ *ẽ:
*õ *õ:
Open
*a *a:
It is likely that the resonants *r *y *ɣ and *w were pronounced as nasals in the vicinity of nasalised vowels, however the exact conditions for this cannot be reconstructed in Proto-Plateau due to differing reflexes in Highland and Lowland languages (i.e., nasalization before a nasal vowel in Highland, contrasted with progressive nasal harmony processes in Lowland).

Syllable and morpheme structure

Proto-Plateau had the syllable structure (s)CV(C). Any consonant could occur in the onset, and any consonant (other than the marginally phonemic *č) could occur in the coda. Roots were always disyllabic, thus the minimal Proto-Plateau root was *CVCV, while the maximal was *CVCCVC. The shape *CVCVC seems to have been preferred.

Suffixes, which were plentiful in the language, favoured simpler shapes, and did not require an onset. Prefixes, of which only around five can be securely reconstructed, all have the shape *CV-, except for the prefix *s-, which seems to have largely functioned as a nominalizer. Thus, onset clusters are limited to *s+C.


Morphophonology

Hardening and Weakening
Proto-Plateau had a process whereby certain suffixes triggered a change in the final consonant of a preceding morpheme. This was likely due to some prosodic feature in pre-Proto-Plateau which was then lost.

Weakening

Certain (but not all) vowel-initial suffixes triggered weakening of a stem-final obstruent. Suffixes that cause weakening are written with a superscript ᵂ before the suffix.
Plain*t*s*k*kʷ
*h
Weakened*r*r, *y*w*y, *w, *∅¹
¹: *h weakens to *y following front vowels, *u following rounded vowels, and *∅ elsewhere.

Most often, *s weakened to *r. In some roots however, weakening of *r resulted in *y instead. This may be due to a merger of pre-Proto-Plateau **s and **š into *s, where original **s weakened to *r and **š weakened to *y, resulting in the unpredictable pattern of Proto-Plateau.

Hardening

Certain (but not all) consonant-initial suffixes triggered hardening of a stem-final resonant. Suffixes that cause hardening are written with a superscript ᴴ before the suffix.
Plain*r*y*w
Hardened*t*k*kʷ

Some examples of this process:

PP *kʷiɣis fish *-ᵂa:y collective > *kʷiɣira:y school of fish
PP *ʔisəkʷ house *-ᵂirõ make > *ʔisəwirõ make a house
PP *hiriɣ eat *-ᴴtasə for a long time > *hiriktasə spend a long time eating
PP *tuskay mountain goat *-ᴴkʷi: see > *tuskačkʷi: see a mountain goat

These processes resulted in many intermorphemic clusters in Proto-Plateau, which were then simplified in various ways in daughter languages.

Proto-Plateau Clusters
*t*s*k*kʷ*h*r*y*w
*t*tt*ts*tk*tkʷ*tʔ*th*tr*ty*tɣ*tw
*s*st*ss*sk*skʷ*sʔ*sh*sr*sy*sɣ*sw
*čt*čs*čk*čkʷ*čʔ*čh*čr*čy*čɣ*čw
*k*kt*ks*kk*kʷkʷ*kʔ*kh*kr*ky*kɣ*kʷ
*kʷ*kʷt*kʷs*kk*kʷkʷ*kʷʔ*kʷh*kʷr*kʷy*kʷɣ*kʷ
*ʔt*ʔs*ʔk*ʔkʷ
*h
*ʔr*ʔy*ʔɣ*ʔw
*h*ht*hs*hk*hkʷ
*h
*hr*hy*hɣ*hw
*r*rt*rs*rk*rkʷ*rʔ*rh*rr*ry*rɣ*rw
*y*yt*ys*yk*ykʷ*yʔ*yh*yr*yy*yɣ*yw
*ɣt*ɣs*ɣk*ɣkʷ*ɣʔ*ɣh*ɣr*ɣy*ɣɣ*ww
*w*wt*ws*wk*wkʷ*wʔ*wh*wr*wy*wɣ*ww

A velar stop followed by a velar stop results in a geminate of the second, so *k+kʷ and *kʷ+kʷ merge as *kʷkʷ, and *k+k and *kʷ+k merge as *kk. A velar stop followed by *w results in *kʷ, while *ɣ followed by *w results in *ww.
Clusters of two glottals were not permitted, so *ʔ+ʔ and *h+ʔ simplified to *ʔ, while *ʔ+h and *h+h simplified to *h.

Re: Plateau languages scratchpad

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 10:19 am
by /nɒtɛndəduːd/
I like this concept so far!

Re: Plateau languages scratchpad

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:47 am
by sasasha
Looking forward to seeing more of this. I particularly like what you’ve done with *č and the hardening / weakening. Plus the overall aesthetic.

I’m curious as to what leads certain suffixes, and not others, to trigger the mutations, if not phonology? I know these things happen, but I’ve never been fully sure of why.

Re: Plateau languages scratchpad

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2025 9:07 am
by Travis B.
I have to say I definitely like the concept so far. I hope to see more about it soon!

Re: Plateau languages scratchpad

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:23 pm
by Skookum
Thanks all for the interest! I will post some more thoughts about the morphophonology later today most likely, and continue refining my ideas about the morphology, which is a little bit kitchen-sinky at the moment. Also need to work out stress...

As for the triggering of hardening/weakening, I'm sort of using the excuse that this is a proto-lang to handwave that stuff away. Similar to how linguists might speculate on the origins of Proto-Indo-European ablaut, but at the end of the day its just a feature that must be reconstructed back to the proto-language without any clear evidence on its ultimate source. Maybe it had something to do with stress in pre-Proto-Plateau, with consonants weakening/leniting between unstressed vowels, with subsequent stress shifts obscuring the source.

A good point of comparison for hardening/weakening (and where I got the idea from) are the Wakashan languages. A basic overview can be found on the Wikipedia page for Kwak'wala. This dissertation on ’Wuik̓ala argues that suffixes that trigger hardening (which surfaces as glottalization in that language) have a floating feature [+constricted glottis], while those that trigger weakening have the feature [+voice]. So maybe Proto-Plateau weakening suffixes have a feature [+voice] while hardening ones have the feature [-voice].

Re: Plateau languages scratchpad

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2025 6:03 pm
by Skookum
Decided to add a bit more irregularity into the weakening/hardening stuff. Now, Proto-Plateau *s weakens to *r in some roots and *y in others. I'm hypothesizing that this is due to a merger of pre-Proto-Plateau **s and **š. In other words, roots with original **š have *y in the weakened form, while roots with original **s have *r.

Now some more morphophonology:

Copy vowel

A striking number of roots in Proto-Plateau have the same vowel in the first and second syllable. Some of these are clear reduplicative formations, but many can’t be explained this way. It is hypothesized that these go back to a pre-Proto-Plateau stage that allowed coda consonant clusters, so that pre-Proto-Plateau **CVCC became *CV₁CV₁. If the vowel of the first syllable was long, the copy vowel was a short version of that vowel. This process explains a feature of Proto-Plateau morphophonology, namely that many *CV₁CV₁C roots surface as *CVCC when a vowel-initial suffix is added.

PP *hiriɣ eat *-i:tə past > *hirɣi:tə ate
PP *kẽ:hẽt lichen *-ukʷ gather > *kẽ:htukʷ harvest lichen

Furthermore, if the vowel-inital suffix triggers weakening, the entire cluster will weaken if applicable:

PP *rõkõt dugout canoe *-ᵂirõ make > *rõɣrirõ make a dugout canoe
PP *kʷa:sakʷ shake *-ᵂət body in motion > *kʷa:rwət dance

Re: Plateau languages scratchpad

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2025 8:39 pm
by /nɒtɛndəduːd/
i'm quite new to conlanging (if no one could tell), but if you tried to tell the 13 yo me who didn't know about conlanging that this proto-plateau lang wasn't a natlang and instead was a conlang, I would look at you and question if I knew more than you about conlanging. this has to be one of the most believable conlangs I have seen put before me, which again, isn't exactly a huge feat considering the amount of langs i've seen, but nonetheless.

looking forward to seeing more of this.

Re: Plateau languages scratchpad

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:06 pm
by Skookum
/nɒtɛndəduːd/ wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 8:39 pm i'm quite new to conlanging (if no one could tell), but if you tried to tell the 13 yo me who didn't know about conlanging that this proto-plateau lang wasn't a natlang and instead was a conlang, I would look at you and question if I knew more than you about conlanging. this has to be one of the most believable conlangs I have seen put before me, which again, isn't exactly a huge feat considering the amount of langs i've seen, but nonetheless.

looking forward to seeing more of this.
Very high praise, I appreciate it! When I'm doodling out conlangs I find I can often capture a vibe I like in terms of the phonology and morphophonology, it's the morphology and especially the syntax that I have a harder time with. That's what I'm working on now with Proto-Plateau, along with some preliminary phonological changes to flesh out the sound of potential daughter languages.

One last post (for now) on phonology:

Stress

Proto-Plateau stress was predictable based on the phonological form of the word. Iambic feet were formed from left to right, with the final two syllables being unfooted. Primary stress fell on the last iamb of the word. Single syllables could form a foot if is was an odd numbered syllable immediately preceeding the final two syllables of a word. If the primary stressed syllable was open, the vowel was lengthened. If primary stress fell on schwa in an open accented syllable, the following consonant was geminated instead. Long vowels in nonaccented syllables were shortened in the same foot as a syllable with a long vowel.

PP *(rõɣ.ri)(rṍ)ta.sə > *rõɣrirṍ:tasə spend a long time making a dugout canoe
PP *(kẽ:h.tú)kʷi:.tə > *kẽhtú:kʷi:tə harvested lichen
PP *(kʷa:r.wә́)ti:.tə > *kʷarwә́tti:tə danced
PP *(kʷa:r.wət)(tá)si:.tə > *kʷa:rwəttá:si:tə spent a long time dancing