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Řom Indisposed!
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2025 10:19 pm
by Arzena
Nothing to add. Glad he's gone. Ozë fsëgda altun
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Meta: in trying to translate Sic semper tyrannis to Cadhinor, I noticed that the lexicon has no separate entry for 'tyrant'. What would the idiomatic construction be for that word when Ilcorea and Genremos discuss political philosophy?
Re: Řom Dead!
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2025 10:46 pm
by zompist
Arzena wrote: ↑Thu Aug 28, 2025 10:19 pm
Meta: in trying to translate
Sic semper tyrannis to Cadhinor, I noticed that the lexicon has no separate entry for 'tyrant'. What would the idiomatic construction be for that word when Ilcorea and Genremos discuss political philosophy?
Good question... I think there is not likely to be a simple term. The Romans could examine multiple forms of government in Greece and elsewhere, but the Caďinorians really didn't have that experience. Their emperors were already absolute sovereigns, above the law, and even the best of them could ignore what consultative bodies existed. There might be some more verbose options, however.
The Cuzeian emperors, and the Šadoroi, were considered tyrannical; one could talk about a
nactec Marosiei, a ruler (like) Mairōusias, or even stronger, a
nactec is lisucrionin, a ruler from the ktuvoks.
Once Cuzeian learning was available, you could talk about the
Sword of Zeilisio. Learned readers might understand Cuezi
zîtenarrûos 'emperor'.
The Red Cabal was the prototypical example of tyranny, but this was only at the end of the ancient period. In medieval Caďinor you could refer to a
claetiles 'Caballist'.
(If it's not clear, don't try to invent something based on Verdurian
altu.)
Re: Řom Dead!
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2025 1:43 am
by Lērisama
Noooo, spoilers!
More seriously, he was going to die at some point, and I'd guessed he might be the last in his particular job, but I'm waiting until the books come out, and then buying them, so I'm stuck before the Almean War.
Re: Řom Dead!
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2025 9:00 am
by Ketsuban
Arzena wrote: ↑Thu Aug 28, 2025 10:19 pm
Meta: in trying to translate
Sic semper tyrannis to Cadhinor, I noticed that the lexicon has no separate entry for 'tyrant'. What would the idiomatic construction be for that word when Ilcorea and Genremos discuss political philosophy?
You may get some traction by snapping the pointer:
sic semper tyrannis is a Latin paraphrase of a quote from the Odyssey which Scipio Aemilianus is alleged to have used upon hearing of the assassination of Tiberius Sempronius Gracchus, ὡς ἀπόλοιτο καὶ ἄλλος, ὅτις τοιαῦτά γε ῥέζοι
so too may perish utterly any other who does such things.
Re: Řom Dead!
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2025 5:41 pm
by zompist
Lērisama wrote: ↑Fri Aug 29, 2025 1:43 am
Noooo, spoilers!
It kinda is, so I changed the title of the post. I mean, it is nice to not reveal too much to the dozen or so people who read
Almea: Industrial Age and haven't followed the Patreon.
(Just checked... 37 people have bought AIA, which is quite a lot for a somewhat expensive bit of para-history, but isn't a horde of people. On the other hand, it may just need time. 159 people have bought the
Historical Atlas.)
Re: Řom Dead!
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2025 3:53 am
by Lērisama
zompist wrote: ↑Sat Aug 30, 2025 5:41 pm
It kinda is, so I changed the title of the post. I mean, it is nice to not reveal too much to the dozen or so people who read
Almea: Industrial Age and haven't followed the Patreon.
It surprises me a bit it's around a dozen, although I suppose most people who would read a book about fictional history would be on the patreon already, and I'm obviously a bit biased to what I'm doing myself to be normal.
Unrelatedly & entirely self-servingly, may I ask if you have any idea as to when the
Almea: [I can't remember] age will come out, or if it is when the history is finished and Patreoned, over the next few years or so?
Re: Řom Indisposed!
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2025 5:43 am
by Raphael
Note that the subject lines of individual posts in this throead still contain the "dead" note, which is therefore still showing on the main page.
Re: Řom Dead!
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2025 1:35 pm
by zompist
Lērisama wrote: ↑Sun Aug 31, 2025 3:53 am
Unrelatedly & entirely self-servingly, may I ask if you have any idea as to when the
Almea: [I can't remember] age will come out, or if it is when the history is finished and Patreoned, over the next few years or so?
The provisional title is
Almea: Space Age. I can't provide a date yet, but probably 2026 or 2027. Before GRRM's next book, at least.
Re: Řom Dead!
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 1:39 am
by foxcatdog
zompist wrote: ↑Sun Aug 31, 2025 1:35 pm
Lērisama wrote: ↑Sun Aug 31, 2025 3:53 am
Unrelatedly & entirely self-servingly, may I ask if you have any idea as to when the
Almea: [I can't remember] age will come out, or if it is when the history is finished and Patreoned, over the next few years or so?
The provisional title is
Almea: Space Age. I can't provide a date yet, but probably 2026 or 2027. Before GRRM's next book, at least.
If GRRM releases before i'm saying your challenge provoked him to work harder.
Re: Řom Dead!
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 3:12 am
by zompist
foxcatdog wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 1:39 am
If GRRM releases before i'm saying your challenge provoked him to work harder.
Borrowed this from someone on Metafilter:
In the movie Logan Lucky, one of the plot points is a prison riot in which the prisoners are demanding the library finally put in Winds of Winter, and are incredulous when they learn it still isn’t finished.
Logan Lucky came out 8 years ago.
Re: Řom Dead!
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 4:24 am
by Lērisama
zompist wrote: ↑Sun Aug 31, 2025 1:35 pm
Lērisama wrote: ↑Sun Aug 31, 2025 3:53 am
Unrelatedly & entirely self-servingly, may I ask if you have any idea as to when the
Almea: [I can't remember] age will come out, or if it is when the history is finished and Patreoned, over the next few years or so?
The provisional title is
Almea: Space Age. I can't provide a date yet, but probably 2026 or 2027. Before GRRM's next book, at least.
That's nive to know, thank you.