Zompist Bboard Again

Nice presentation!

Thanks!

Nicely presentated, indeed. I like the use of pictures behind the inflection tables.

very cool! i'm really interested in seeing more detail!

one suggestion, however: it would be easier to read if you included a transliteration alongside the cyrillic

Excellent work!

Thanks everyone! The next update will probably be some basic lexicon and pronouns.

Great concept and presentation, I like it!
What I would be interested in is the historical grammar and etymologies; as my main conlang Tautisca is also an Indo-European a posteriori language, I'm curious about what assumptions on IE / Proto-Italic reconstruction you made.

hwhatting wrote: ↑Wed Apr 15, 2026 3:16 am Great concept and presentation, I like it!
What I would be interested in is the historical grammar and etymologies; as my main conlang Tautisca is also an Indo-European a posteriori language, I'm curious about what assumptions on IE / Proto-Italic reconstruction you made.

With Proto-Italic I went with de Vaan's reconstructions, also used Wiktionary and Wikipedia's available parts on PI, Sabellic and Lat-Fal; also Rex E Wallace's works on Sabellic and Venetic. I generally researched whatever I could find because not much info on Italics (well, aside from Latin/Romance).
I guess the name of your IE conlang comes from *tewtéh₂? In present-day Fevornian, this word's descendant, тудꙓ [tudʲe], means "language" (тудꙓ фꙓворнꙓꙉꙓ [tudʲe fʲevornʲedʒe] is "Fevornian language", for example).

If I am not mistaken, Tautisca is a Romance language set in present-day Germany, which makes me think that 'Tautisca' is meant to be cognate with Deutsch.

Edit: I looked it up and I am mistaken -- Tautisca is not meant to be in any specific actual IE branch.

BTW, nice overview!

Travis B. wrote: ↑Wed Apr 15, 2026 7:48 pm If I am not mistaken, Tautisca is a Romance language set in present-day Germany, which makes me think that 'Tautisca' is meant to be cognate with Deutsch.

Edit: I looked it up and I am mistaken -- Tautisca is not meant to be in any specific actual IE branch.

*tewtéh₂, via PGm *þiudiskaz¹, is indeed the ancestor of Deutsch, which might be where you got that from?

¹ Modern English would be *theedish, but we only have Dutch

Lērisama wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2026 4:09 am

Travis B. wrote: ↑Wed Apr 15, 2026 7:48 pm If I am not mistaken, Tautisca is a Romance language set in present-day Germany, which makes me think that 'Tautisca' is meant to be cognate with Deutsch.

Edit: I looked it up and I am mistaken -- Tautisca is not meant to be in any specific actual IE branch.

*tewtéh₂, via PGm *þiudiskaz¹, is indeed the ancestor of Deutsch, which might be where you got that from?

¹ Modern English would be *theedish, but we only have Dutch

And Dutch is of course a loanword either from Middle Dutch or from Middle Low German.

Travis B. wrote: ↑Wed Apr 15, 2026 7:48 pm If I am not mistaken, Tautisca is a Romance language set in present-day Germany, which makes me think that 'Tautisca' is meant to be cognate with Deutsch.

Edit: I looked it up and I am mistaken -- Tautisca is not meant to be in any specific actual IE branch.

Well, it's meant to be Western IE; *tewta: is also attested in Celtic and other Western branches.

hwhatting wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2026 10:49 am

Travis B. wrote: ↑Wed Apr 15, 2026 7:48 pm If I am not mistaken, Tautisca is a Romance language set in present-day Germany, which makes me think that 'Tautisca' is meant to be cognate with Deutsch.

Edit: I looked it up and I am mistaken -- Tautisca is not meant to be in any specific actual IE branch.

Well, it's meant to be Western IE; *tewta: is also attested in Celtic and other Western branches.

The cognates are also attested in Indo-Iranian and possibly Hittite tbf.

Copula conjugation (present and imperfect).

Present
ѣзу [ezu] - 1sg
ѣс [es] - 2sg
ѣст [est] - 3sg

ѣсым [esɨm] - 1pl
ѣсть [estʲ] - 2pl
ѣшин [eʃin] - 3pl

Imperfect
ови [ovi] - 1sg
овꙓс [ovʲes] - 2sg
ovꙓт [ovʲet] - 3sg

овум [ovum] - 1pl
оводь [ovodʲ] - 2pl
овун [ovun] - 3p

Note: present tense is typically zero-copula.

The small sentence, for example,
"Cat is red"
will usually just be:
Кындорс родэрс. [kɨndors rodərs]

Lovely presentation and I like the aesthetics of the language so far.

sasasha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2026 8:01 am Lovely presentation and I like the aesthetics of the language so far.

Ty!

Perfect tense (active)

Perfect tense, used for the finished actions in the past, is formed in a typical Balkan sprachbund fashion: present form of the verb тини [tʲinʲi] "have" + past participle of the action verb (masc.sg.nom).
In this particular form this participle will be formed by the verb stem+ѕ [ð], the declension of it in the function directly as a participle is more complicated and will be covered later.

Here's the examples for капю [kapʲu] "catch"

1sg
тини капꙓѕ [tʲinʲi kapʲeð]
2sg
тинис капꙓѕ [tʲinʲis ...]
3sg
тинит капꙓѕ [tʲinʲit ...]

1pl
тиним капꙓѕ [tʲinʲim ...]
2pl
тинидь капꙓѕ [tʲinʲidʲ ...]
3pl
тинин капꙓѕ [tʲinʲin ...]

Colours

Тюс [tʲus] - colour, from a Turkic language, ultimately from Proto-Turkic *tǖs. The colour system of Fevornian is obviously more expansive than the scheme provided below, with various hues and shades (especially if one's a painter or a web designer, for example), but the scheme shows the basic list used in the modern language (note that some, like orange and beige, are recent loans).



родэрс [rodərs] - red, from Proto-Italic *ruðros. Is used for the saturated red objects (blood, wine, cranberry, ladybug) and also in the sense of "ginger": the colour of hair on people and wild mammals, feathers on birds and other animal pigmentations (compare Russian рыжий).

портокалꙓјс [portokalʲejs] - orange, from портокалс "orange (fruit)", itself a loanword from Greek πορτοκάλι or/and Ottoman Turkish پورتقال (compare Albanian portokall, Bulgarian портокал). Is very rarely used for animals or people's natural hair colour.

соѕ [soð] - yellow, from Proto-Italic *suzdos "dry". Semantic shift happened probably due to the colour of dry grass.

ловс [lovs] - lime green/yellowish-green from Proto-Italic *flāwos "blond/yellow".

даринꙓјс [darʲinʲejs] - mossy green/emerald green, from Proto-Celtic *dolinyā "leaf".

ширꙓјс [ʃirʲejs] - cyan/turquoise, greenish-blue, from Proto-Italic *kailom "sky". Used in most contexts.

финꙓѕ [fʲinʲeð] - cyan/turquoise, greenish-blue, from Latin venetus "Venetian; light blue (from the colour of Venetian Lagoon)", ultimately from the endonym of Adriatic Veneti (*wenetos?). Originally a dialectal form that became more commonly used during the romantic nationalism era: cyan is the national Fevornian colour, and this word implied a connection with the Adriatic Veneti, an ancient tribe believed to be among the ancestors of Fevornians. Most commonly used in high/poetic context, in songs and literature.

голубс [golubs] - light blue, from Russian голубой (by analogy of other Russian adjectives adapted via short form, although *голуб doesn't exist in standard Russian). Rarely used, usually in the context of a light blue colour distinct from cyan. Most commonly used in the speech of younger generations and in technical context.

калѳинс [kalθʲins] - dark blue, from Vulgar Latin *calthinus "yellowish". Semantic shift similar to the one in Albanian kaltër, from the same Vulgar Latin root.

јинѳинс [jinθʲins] - purple, from Ancient Greek ἰάνθῐνος.

роз [роз] - pink, a loanword from some Central European language, ultimately from Latin rosa "rose", compare Romanian roz, Hungarian rózsás.

беж [beʒ] - beige, from French beige. Usually used in technical context (cars, websites, phones...).

ашинꙓјс [aʃinʲejs] - sandy, beige. From ашинꙓ "sand", from a Sabellic language, ultimately from Etruscan 𐌚𐌀𐌑𐌄𐌍𐌀. Usually used in context of natural colours (animals, plants, rocks...).

ровс [rovs] - brown. From Latin rāvus "amber-coloured".

тꙓдꙓринс [tʲedʲerʲins] - dark, blackish brown. From тꙓдꙓрс "grouse", itself from Proto-Celtic *teteros.

отэрс [otərs] - black. From Proto-Italic *ātros.

пꙓꙉꙓјс [pʲedʒʲejs] - dark gray, blackish-gray. From Proto-Italic *piks "pitch". May be used as "gray" in the general meaning.

казэнс [kazəns] - light gray, whitish-gray. From Proto-Italic *kaznos. Also means "gray-haired" (from age).

олэбс [oləbs] - white. From Proto-Italic *alβos.