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Orange in French

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:26 pm
by So Haleza Grise
<Orange> is, notoriously, a word with no rhymes in English. But what about its source languages? I assume there are rhymes for <Orange> in French? What about Spanish naranja?

Re: Orange in French

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:37 pm
by Yiuel Raumbesrairc
For French : «Grange»

It's also a rich rhyme, as the last three phonemes repeat.

Re: Orange in French

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:06 am
by Vijay
The Malayalam cognate of the original Dravidian etymon is [ˈn̪aːɾɛŋʲa]. All kinds of edible plant product names in Malayalam rhyme with that because /kaː/ means a seed or fruit.

However, [ˈn̪aːɾɛŋʲa] does not mean 'orange' at all but rather 'lime'.

Re: Orange in French

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:27 am
by akam chinjir
Tom Lehrer managed to rhyme "orange." You need the Boston accent, though, and some maybe weird syllabification.

"Eating an orange
while making love
leads to bizarre enj-
oyment thereof."

Re: Orange in French

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:04 am
by Xwtek
Yiuel Raumbesrairc wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:37 pm For French : «Grange»

It's also a rich rhyme, as the last three phonemes repeat.
Actually, the French for "orange" is, well, "orange."

In Indonesia, we call it "jeruk manis," and due to the nature of the language, rhythming words are very common. Example of rhythming word:

Jeruk : Garuk, Tunduk, Untuk, Induk, Kuk, Bekuk, etc
Manis : Khalis, Amis, Baris, Laris, Tumis, Haris, Lilis, Rilis, Bisnis, Paris, etc.

Re: Orange in French

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:58 am
by Yiuel Raumbesrairc
Akangka wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:04 am
Yiuel Raumbesrairc wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:37 pm For French : «Grange»

It's also a rich rhyme, as the last three phonemes repeat.
Actually, the French for "orange" is, well, "orange."
French being my first mother tongue... I know that. But the OP specifically asked for rhymes with the word, not its meaning.

Re: Orange in French

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:09 am
by Xwtek
Yiuel Raumbesrairc wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:58 am
Akangka wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:04 am
Yiuel Raumbesrairc wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:37 pm For French : «Grange»

It's also a rich rhyme, as the last three phonemes repeat.
Actually, the French for "orange" is, well, "orange."
French being my first mother tongue... I know that. But the OP specifically asked for rhymes with the word, not its meaning.
Sorry. I misread it.

Re: Orange in French

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:24 am
by Linguoboy
I can't think of a perfect rhyme for German Orange /oˈrɔŋʒə/. Closest I can get is Melange, an Austrian coffee drink.

Irish oráiste is easier. /aːs′t′e/ is the usual adaptation of the ending -age in Old and Middle French borrowings so you have coráiste (< courage), foráiste (< forage), etc.

Re: Orange in French

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:48 am
by zompist
For naranja, there's franja 'fringe', granja 'farm', zanja 'ditch', and tanja 'taṇhā'.

Re: Orange in French

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:22 am
by Pabappa
Yo estoy a la franja
Buscando en la zanja
De mi viejita granja
Porqué tengo la tanja
Para una gran dulce naranja.

Re: Orange in French

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:58 pm
by Zaarin
I guess poor Guybrush will be lost at sea forever in some of the translated versions of The Curse of Monkey Island. :P

Re: Orange in French

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:00 am
by circeus
Yiuel Raumbesrairc wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:37 pm For French : «Grange»

It's also a rich rhyme, as the last three phonemes repeat.
Yeah. I can think of 7-8 words easily enough.

Re: Orange in French

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:10 am
by hwhatting
Linguoboy wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:24 am I can't think of a perfect rhyme for German Orange /oˈrɔŋʒə/. Closest I can get is Melange, an Austrian coffee drink.
You can always use Apfelsine instead, which has lots of rhyme words.

Re: Orange in French

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:24 pm
by Tropylium
akam chinjir wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:27 am Tom Lehrer managed to rhyme "orange." You need the Boston accent, though, and some maybe weird syllabification.

"Eating an orange
while making love
leads to bizarre enj-
oyment thereof."
Ah yes, rhyming by linebreaks, I've seen that before

For the word silver,
finding a rhyme
requires will, ver-
bosity and time

Re: Orange in French

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:29 am
by WeepingElf
I call this kind of rhyme a "Hans Sachs rhyme". I don't know whether Hans Sachs actually did this, but in Wagner's opera Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg he has the lines: Hans Sachs ein Schuh-/macher und Poet dazu.