Zompist Bboard Again

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masako wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:23 am The "epigraphic" version of Omyatloko will no longer be used and is for archive purposes only. Only the "handwritten" version will be used from now on.

Is it still true (as you say here) that yatoyo does not use logograms, or has your usage changed to include them since then?

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masako wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:58 pm Something I've been considering; changing the S-O pronominal constructions:



So "You see me." was ta'ena anya would become tena anya, the plural pronouns would not need to change; "They see us." would still be kamenam anya.

I really, really like this. It just seems to fit better.

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I was looking at the glyphs for Kala, partly because I'm still mucking around with letter forms for my alphabet for Vedreki and Cheyadeneen. The vowels all seem quite similar. They all have the same vertical stroke and get differentiated by marks top and bottom. But even those look similar - big dashes and little dashes and different numbers of dashes. Is this common, because I'm trying to keep my letters fairly different in form so they're easily recognisable and distinguishable?

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These - Omlatyoko - forms seem more different from each other than the Moya forms you originally had. Forgive me if I'm being stupid here, but are these supposed to be related to each other, because the Moya versions of a, e, i , o, u are all based on one bif vertical dash?

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New Kala words.

kunke - negative number (from uku - number, and nke - no, not)
kuhya - decimal; fraction
punye - numerator; molecule

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Can you give us any hints on why you felt inspired to do this, and what the new grammar will be like? (or is it just an overhaul of the format and presentation?)

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How is the revamp coming along? I am curious to see what you’ve come up with since last you posted.

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masako wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:06 pm I am thinking about incorporating reduplication into Kala.

On nouns it would indicate them being scattered over the place, and it would change verbs to adverbs.

Any thoughts?

I don't see what not. It seems like slightly unusual & limited uses, but from what I've seen reduplication can seem fairly random, even within a single language.

masako wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:06 pm I am thinking about incorporating reduplication into Kala.

On nouns it would indicate them being scattered over the place, and it would change verbs to adverbs.

Any thoughts?

Are you planning on using full or partial reduplication? The Kala aesthetic leads me to think partial reduplication might work better but I could be wrong. Do you have examples of how reduplication would look if implemented?

I disagree with Vardelm regarding the normalcy of usage. Using reduplication to form adverbs from verbs (or at least stative verbs) is extremely common (for instance in Asian languages like Mandarin and Thai), and reduplication of nouns often has sth to do with number and spatial distribution (Wakashan perhaps?) so I don’t see a problem there.