Zompist Bboard Again

• Can be used in both interactive (GUI) and batch mode, as well as a Haskell library
• Intuitive syntax based on zompist’s SCA²
• First-class support for multigraphs
• Live preview and control over output highlighting allow fast iteration through rules
• Tabular ‘rules applied’ output helps with debugging
• Comes with built-in paradigm builder
• Rich syntax for specifying phonetic rules: includes wildcards, optional elements and more
• Category operations allow phonetic rules to be written featurally
• Support for ‘features’ lets rules easily manipulate stress, tone and other suprasegmentals
• Easy control over rule application: apply rules right-to-left and left-to-right, one time or multiple times

fusijui wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:08 pm I'd love to check this out! But, erm, a link...?

dɮ the phoneme wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:16 pm Yes, it seems you forgot to include a link!

dɮ the phoneme wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:13 pm Sorry for the dumb question, but I am reasonably bad at computers; is there a way to run this on mac? Do I have to compile it from the source?

Hallow XIII wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:00 am Couldn’t you use the github actions Mac runner to do it?

aliensdrinktea wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:33 pm Can this handle phonemes with multiple features, e.g., targeting voiced stops?

categories
Stop = p b t d k g
Voiced = b d g
V = a e i o u
end

; changes e.g. tapaketke to tabagetke
[Stop -Voiced] / [Stop +Voiced] / V _ V

How do I write rules that affect only stressed or only unstressed syllables?

categories
C = m n p t k s h y

feature a e i o u / Str = á é í ó ú

V = a e i o u
end

; delete unstressed vowels
[V -Str] / / _

; resolve stress clash
-ltr [V +Str] / [V -Str] / Str (C) (C) _

; geminate coda of stressed syllable
C / C > / Str _ [C #]

; NB. features don’t interfere with regular sound change:
a / e / t _

; e.g. kápanéma → káppnem, táyaéke → téyek, yékamá → yékkma

aliensdrinktea wrote: ↑Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:10 am Thank you! One more question... where's the manual? (unless you mean the tutorial image)

bradrn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:52 am Here: https://github.com/bradrn/brassica/blob ... ntation.md. (The image wasn’t meant as a tutorial, though if the shoe fits…)

Hallow XIII wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:18 am So I have good news and bad news. The good news is that I've managed to compile and run the brassica GUI on Linux. The bad news is that it was extremely involved to do so, largely because (til) Windows doesn't have a distinction between position-independent and position-dependent code, which lets you get away with more creative linking than on Unixen. The easiest way for me to get it running was to compile everything with -fPIC -fPIE and then dynamically link all the Haskell dependencies, which is also the preferred distribution format for my distribution's package management system.

For a prebuilt binary that you can download from github, it would be necessary to locally build Qt to be statically linked. Supposedly doing that might cause licensing issues... I can probably make a script that will take care of the linux build, at least.

Hallow XIII wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 10:18 am While I'm at it, I also have a bug report/feature request: Brassica doesn't apply sound changes multiple times when the direction of application is LTR.

bradrn wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:23 pm

Hallow XIII wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:18 am So I have good news and bad news. The good news is that I've managed to compile and run the brassica GUI on Linux. The bad news is that it was extremely involved to do so, largely because (til) Windows doesn't have a distinction between position-independent and position-dependent code, which lets you get away with more creative linking than on Unixen. The easiest way for me to get it running was to compile everything with -fPIC -fPIE and then dynamically link all the Haskell dependencies, which is also the preferred distribution format for my distribution's package management system.

I’m seriously impressed that you managed to do this — without proper documentation! (I’ve been meaning to write some, but alas, haven’t gotten around to it just yet…) I find it extremely surprising that this was easier to build on Windows than Linux; in my experience, it’s usually the other way around. On the other hand, I was originally intending to link the Haskell dynamically, but gave up when I discovered this is impossible on Windows.

bradrn wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:23 pm

For a prebuilt binary that you can download from github, it would be necessary to locally build Qt to be statically linked. Supposedly doing that might cause licensing issues... I can probably make a script that will take care of the linux build, at least.

Can’t Qt be dynamically linked? I know this is the default on Windows, and I’m sure I’ve built a dynamically linked executable with Qt on Linux also.