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Cat phoneme collection

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:12 pm
by linguistcat
Odd question I suppose but would anyone like to help me in collecting cat sounds/phonemes? If you are a cat owner or interact with felines on the regular, just let me know what types of calls they make and an approximation in human phonetic terms even if they are vague.

For example, even putting aside purrs, I've heard several cats make trills of some kind (maybe /r:/), nasal sounds with both closed and open mouths (at least /m/ and /ŋ/, maybe others), a non-trilled rhotic (/ɾ/?), something acoustically like /w/ though probably in practice more like /ɰ/, a few different vowels (about /i e a ə u o/ and some diphthongs), various hisses/fricatives at least /f s ʃ x/, and a stop on the end of their excited/hunting calls I'm tentatively marking as /k/. I might not include the last one since it might be more like a phone used in interjections but not otherwise in the "language". For types of calls/syllables, I've observed in my own cats:
- A lone vowel or diphthong
- Any consonant (except /k/) followed by a vowel or diphthong
- A nasal followed by a trill, optionally followed by a vowel/diphthong
- A fricative or series of such
- A lone trill
- /ek/, often repeated (hunting/excitement call)
- More rarely, other vowel-ended syllables with -k tacked on

Tones are also important in how cats communicate but I'm fairly certain that is an aspect that is negotiated between the cat(s) and human(s) communicating. So I'm only looking specifically at what kinds of phones people's cats use, especially if they don't conform to the above that I've observed. This is for a current conlang project, but it's also not any serious study. I once had a cat that I swear responded to my mom telling her it was raining and she wouldn't want to go out with a perfect "I understand..." so feel free to let me know that one of your cats has spoken perfect English/Swahili/Mandarin or the such

Re: Cat phoneme collection

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:12 pm
by Ares Land
Ah, that's too bad. My cat isn't a very talkative sort.

I see what you mean with the hunting call, but to me it sounds more like /əʔəʔəʔ/ (repeated ad libitum)

Re: Cat phoneme collection

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:55 pm
by linguistcat
Ares Land wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:12 pm ...
I see what you mean with the hunting call, but to me it sounds more like /əʔəʔəʔ/ (repeated ad libitum)
That's fair. Maybe there's regional variation, or individual. :3

Re: Cat phoneme collection

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:01 pm
by Otto Kretschmer
My cat frequently emits [jæʔæ:w] when he battles my neighbor's cat

Re: Cat phoneme collection

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:26 pm
by linguistcat
Otto Kretschmer wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:01 pm My cat frequently emits [jæʔæ:w] when he battles my neighbor's cat
I have added /j/ and /æ/ to my official list and am considering whether /ʔ/ and /w/ should also be added. (Could /ʔ/ be from a syllable boundary? Could /w/ here be an allophone of /u/ or /ɰ/.) Thank you for the contribution.

Re: Cat phoneme collection

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:24 pm
by Otto Kretschmer
linguistcat wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:12 pm Odd question I suppose but would anyone like to help me in collecting cat sounds/phonemes? If you are a cat owner or interact with felines on the regular, just let me know what types of calls they make and an approximation in human phonetic terms even if they are vague.

For example, even putting aside purrs, I've heard several cats make trills of some kind (maybe /r:/), nasal sounds with both closed and open mouths (at least /m/ and /ŋ/, maybe others), a non-trilled rhotic (/ɾ/?), something acoustically like /w/ though probably in practice more like /ɰ/, a few different vowels (about /i e a ə u o/ and some diphthongs), various hisses/fricatives at least /f s ʃ x/, and a stop on the end of their excited/hunting calls I'm tentatively marking as /k/. I might not include the last one since it might be more like a phone used in interjections but not otherwise in the "language". For types of calls/syllables, I've observed in my own cats:
- A lone vowel or diphthong
- Any consonant (except /k/) followed by a vowel or diphthong
- A nasal followed by a trill, optionally followed by a vowel/diphthong
- A fricative or series of such
- A lone trill
- /ek/, often repeated (hunting/excitement call)
- More rarely, other vowel-ended syllables with -k tacked on

Tones are also important in how cats communicate but I'm fairly certain that is an aspect that is negotiated between the cat(s) and human(s) communicating. So I'm only looking specifically at what kinds of phones people's cats use, especially if they don't conform to the above that I've observed. This is for a current conlang project, but it's also not any serious study. I once had a cat that I swear responded to my mom telling her it was raining and she wouldn't want to go out with a perfect "I understand..." so feel free to let me know that one of your cats has spoken perfect English/Swahili/Mandarin or the such
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As someone with an interest in cats you may like Luke Ranieri's video on the etymology of meow https://youtu.be/e73HMWDKb5I