Conlang fluency thread

[xxx]

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vÊv»ÏvÌË
(me saying not this words...)
I didn't say that...

I would be happy if they wrote their posts in their conscript rather than this line noise.

v̍½Ï»¼]A½ÌÏvÌ
(word not understood and not seen as word...)
all conscripts are line noises for those than can't understand them...

[bradrn]

I would be happy if they wrote their posts in their conscript rather than this line noise.

v̍½Ï»¼]A½ÌÏvÌ
(word not understood and not seen as word...)
all conscripts are line noises for those than can't understand them...

Bal ngen thaŋ ŋaŋ
Mine isn’t.

(‘Line noise’ mbu qaabew siwe lhanu: lhiise Tsaangun Ngen Maqu Thaŋ kaq.)
(But also, ‘line noise’ has a specific meaning: see The Jargon File)

[xxx]

vʍ»ÏzÄvÌwÊ]A½»
(me not knowing position of language yours and visible...)
is your conscript visible anywhere...

[bradrn]

vʍ»ÏzÄvÌwÊ]A½»
(me not knowing position of language yours and visible...)
is your conscript visible anywhere...

Sike nii ŋay.
This is it.

(In-world the language is unwritten. I can’t say that in the language, of course, since it has no word for ‘writing’.)

[KathTheDragon]

(In-world the language is unwritten. I can’t say that in the language, of course, since it has no word for ‘writing’.)

re ina əššac mala holi-mwiti? ke šan 'raket ar pepər'.
Q=NEG=be_able\IPFV-VBZ-2S speak\INF[SG.N] around-NMZ[SG.N] word-SG.N || like QUOT place\INF-SG.N-PASS on paper[SG.N]
"Are you not able to paraphrase? Such as 'put on paper'."

[keenir]

v̍½Ï»¼]A½ÌÏvÌ
(word not understood and not seen as word...)
all conscripts are line noises for those than can't understand them...

Huj.jur mlekt
hɯj.jɯr mlɛkt
bird bird
Ah, meanings...(pragmatically - otherwise your code-switching would only use the word bird in one language, not both)

Blees wa.tra-hraz.nee su.put.tan
bli:s wa.tra.hraz.ni: sɯ.pɯt.tan
Near language&script transparent
My conscript is transparent.

Blem.mem.nem BL IS
blɛm.mɛm.nɛm bl Is
intended BL IS
As Bliss intended.


Am presently working on this conlang offline, and sadly no numbers exist in it just yet nor for the foreseeable future....but it called out to be used in this conversation.
NOTE: "intended" results from a modifier added to "gave"...just as, above that, "language" & "script" are one word, both derived from "poem" with a modifier and classifier appended to it.
{granted, "transparent" is the same word as "clear water" and "translucent" because my conpeople - thus far - don't see a need to distinguish those}
...and yes, a proud reference to Hrozny and how he cracked Hittite.

[xxx]

(‘Line noise’ mbu qaabew siwe lhanu: lhiise Tsaangun Ngen Maqu Thaŋ kaq.)

weX…ц¾¼wÍÌ
(my smile given by this name...)
I like line noise as name of this mode...

Blees wa.tra-hraz.nee su.put.tan

wËB¼w¾ÍÌy¾dweB¼Ðy¾Ì
(I seeing this name of a thing and I not seeing this thing...)
I do not see the transparence of this script...

[keenir]

Blees wa.tra-hraz.nee su.put.tan

wËB¼w¾ÍÌy¾dweB¼Ðy¾Ì
(I seeing this name of a thing and I not seeing this thing...)
I do not see the transparence of this script...

(i admit that watra-hraznee was originally going to be the pronounciation for the paired waves bracketing the circle and eye; but i think it still works perfectly well - Hrozny wrote about linguistics, after all, and scripts & poems are part of language - so its quite very transparent)


Birds fly
Wings fly
Some wings generate sound.

Mlaaml nlekt asas de
mla:ml nlɛkt as.as dɛ
PL wing periphrasic.do fly

Mlekt kekebsa dlamenttle ktese
mlekt kɛ.lɛ.bsa dla.mɛnt.tlɛ ktɛ.sɛ
bird sounds/calls producing/generates (bird)fractional

You!
You buzz buzz buzz,
Forever hiding your wings.

Dsaa e
dsa: ɛ
2P/3P whaet

Dsaa bsa bsa bsa
dsa: bsa bsa bsa
2P/3P buzz buzz buzz

Dsaa ktaammaa le nlektadsaa
dsa: kta:m.ma: lɛ nlɛkta.dsa:
2P/3P eternal(thus far) unseeable wing.2P/3P

(for example, which part of your statement - the wËB¼w¾ÍÌy¾dweB¼Ðy¾Ì - had to do with seeng vs not seeing ? More than a few of us like to at least try to learn at least a little bit of one anothers' conlangs...but yours seem fully opaque to any understanding, at least IMHO)

[xxx]

yours seem fully opaque to any understanding, at least IMHO

I've never claimed that my writing is transparent (far from it...)
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[bradrn]

yours seem fully opaque to any understanding, at least IMHO

I've never claimed that my writing is transparent (far from it...)
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Naaya bey daa sike thaŋ waq yaaq?
/naːjabəjdaː sikə tʰaŋ waʔ jaːʔ/
how=Q=indeed this DEF.SG do INT

So then how does this [transcription system] work, exactly?

[xxx]

dðĂ/íñdTeRQdðĂdS{íKþKVeíþ
(this language seen as yours but naming ideas not sounds...)
this language using letters (extended latin) but as ideogram not alphabet...

[bradrn]

dðĂ/íñdTeRQdðĂdS{íKþKVeíþ
(this language seen as yours but naming ideas not sounds...)
this language using letters (extended latin) but as ideogram not alphabet...

That doesn’t explain much… e.g. what character(s) correspond to ‘language’? Which to ‘yours’? Which to ‘this’? As much as I look, I can’t see any distinctive repeated components in your sentences which might denote those ideas.

(Again, no translation because talking about writing is difficult in my language… sorry! I do my best, but I only have the time to translate so much periphrasis and circumlocution. Feel free to reply in a different thread if that would works better.)

[keenir]

dðĂ/íñdTeRQdðĂdS{íKþKVeíþ
(this language seen as yours but naming ideas not sounds...)
this language using letters (extended latin) but as ideogram not alphabet...

That doesn’t explain much… e.g. what character(s) correspond to ‘language’? Which to ‘yours’? Which to ‘this’? As much as I look, I can’t see any distinctive repeated components in your sentences which might denote those ideas.

.....and-or.....

(for example, which part of your statement - the wËB¼w¾ÍÌy¾dweB¼Ðy¾Ì - had to do with seeng vs not seeing ?

Ideograms are neat, in any script, and I think its an interesting challenge you've taken on...but by holding your proverbial cards so close to your chest, you're denying everyone else the opportunity to behold your victory or even your progress.

[xxx]

I won't contradict you, as I'm keeping private for now the path to this locus amoenus even a so poor one...
yÌÂx½x¿½Àẋ½Àj}¿ÎR¿}½|Æ͇½À†ÒYxÌ_pe|ÆêÆ¿qÁ¿¿
(you not denied by me not giving indication of path to this place giving smile to me and no one, this place contening few...)

[bradrn]

I won't contradict you, as I'm keeping private for now the path to this locus amoenus even a so poor one...
yÌÂx½x¿½Àẋ½Àj}¿ÎR¿}½|Æ͇½À†ÒYxÌ_pe|ÆêÆ¿qÁ¿¿
(you not denied by me not giving indication of path to this place giving smile to me and no one, this place contening few...)

Ni maag siwe tsisa siwe sike thaŋ fawetl paatli bel, ni mbu siwe ŋay waq qan fawetl mengu tlii, naak qi paatli?
/nimaːɣ siwə t͡sisa siwə tʰaŋ fawət͡ɬ paːt͡ɬi bəl | niᵐbu siwə ŋaj waʔ ʔan fawət͡ɬ məᵑɡu t͡ɬiː | naːk ʔipaːt͡ɬi/
you=not have desire have this DEF.SG say give us, you but have it do ACT speak many INDEF.PL, what it=give?

If you want to keep this private, then why do you use it for so many posts here?

[xxx]

x̏½x·¿½À}½|ÆÍ_Џ¿Î_|¿Î_‡½À÷ÎzÁxÎÂÍ
(me thinking words given to this place and not to be understood but to be worked on and giving strength to men of these words...)
I don't think that conlangs in this thread are meant to be understood, but to be worked on and to encourage all participants...

[masako]

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[bradrn]

If you want to keep this private, then why do you use it for so many posts here?

ntakan tayo tosanko
You're wasting your energy.

Be maag waq. Sil mbu be siwe tsisa fawetl qaniw be ngen fawetl thaŋ.
/bəmaːɣ waʔ | silᵐbu bəsiwə t͡sisa fawət͡ɬ ʔaniw bəᵑɡən fawət͡ɬ tʰaŋ/
I not do. here=but I=have desire speak repeat I POSS speech DEF

No I’m not. My point here is to practice my language.

[xxx]

ntakan tayo tosanko

Be maag waq. Sil mbu be siwe tsisa fawetl qaniw be ngen fawetl thaŋ.

https://vocaroo.com/11IJEytVVU8s
in 3SDL I would translate your two sentences identically...

(3SDL rarely notes negative connotations...)

[masako]

z