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- Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:52 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Shortest words for complex concepts
- Replies: 51
- Views: 48148
Re: Shortest words for complex concepts
Shed: the place where two sets of warp threads are held away from each other so that the weft can be passed between them in weaving. Fell: Where the completed cloth turns into warp threads--not the same as the shed, because the fell always exists but the shed doesn't have to. Are those complex or j...
- Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:40 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Shortest words for complex concepts
- Replies: 51
- Views: 48148
Re: Shortest words for complex concepts
What is a complex concept though?
What makes a concept complex (or simple)?
What makes a concept complex (or simple)?
- Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:52 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: "Pro re nata"
- Replies: 1
- Views: 3631
"Pro re nata"
It literally means "for the thing born" and is used to describe medication that is taken as and when required, apparently using 'born' to describe something new.
Are there any other phrases in any other language that you know of that use this metaphor/logic?
Are there any other phrases in any other language that you know of that use this metaphor/logic?
- Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:17 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: A monosyllable equivalent to 'once' can be repeated to express rhythm
- Replies: 2
- Views: 4046
Re: A monosyllable equivalent to 'once' can be repeated to express rhythm
Like "da" used to vocalise rhythms in English? Shave and a haircut goes: "DA da da DA da, da da". Yep, that's right except in (my) English you have to put "like this" plus a pause in front. I must have been inspired by that without knowing it (or with?), a bit like cry...
- Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:24 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Longevity
- Replies: 7
- Views: 5715
Re: Longevity
The Kwehnu, who return as zombies, count their lifespans as being from birth to complete decay--and as their lifespans as zombies are exactly equal to their lifespans as humans, this led to some of them reaching the ripe old age of 160 local years before the introduction of modern medicine (which p...
- Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:25 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Nomophobia for fear of lack of cell phone access.
- Replies: 23
- Views: 17257
Re: Nomophobia for fear of lack of cell phone access.
Just "no mobile phobia" or "no cell phobia" without bothering to borrow a Greek root is not too long, I think.
- Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:18 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: A monosyllable equivalent to 'once' can be repeated to express rhythm
- Replies: 2
- Views: 4046
A monosyllable equivalent to 'once' can be repeated to express rhythm
For example, "The password is to knock once-once, once-once". That would describe a particular way of knocking 4 times.
- Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:14 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Pragmatics idea: overly generic answer as a substitute for "I don't know"
- Replies: 5
- Views: 7035
Pragmatics idea: overly generic answer as a substitute for "I don't know"
For example: (Walking in woods or something) A: ~"What did these feathers come from do you think?" B: ~"Bird" ("I dunno") A: ~"Yes" ("I don't know either") This sounds awkward in English but in a conlang it obviously can sound however the creator wan...
- Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:00 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Apposition with nouns such as 'agent', 'patient' etc could replace case morphology
- Replies: 40
- Views: 23095
- Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:38 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Apposition with nouns such as 'agent', 'patient' etc could replace case morphology
- Replies: 40
- Views: 23095
Re: Apposition with nouns such as 'agent', 'patient' etc could replace case morphology
Am I missing something, or are you just reinventing active-stative languages ? So it is essentially "fluid-s" with overt marking on all argument values? I suppose so but the new part is how the 'cases' are formed. Also, since any noun can be used in that way, such roles can be invented on...
- Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:45 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Apposition with nouns such as 'agent', 'patient' etc could replace case morphology
- Replies: 40
- Views: 23095
- Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:44 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Apposition with nouns such as 'agent', 'patient' etc could replace case morphology
- Replies: 40
- Views: 23095
Re: Apposition with nouns such as 'agent', 'patient' etc could replace case morphology
No, I don't think so.
- Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:43 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Apposition with nouns such as 'agent', 'patient' etc could replace case morphology
- Replies: 40
- Views: 23095
Re: Apposition with nouns such as 'agent', 'patient' etc could replace case morphology
So if I understand correctly, this idea would be something like “Franklin the agent kissed Thomas the patient.” Assuming your language has tidy terms for “agent” and “patient,” you’re just describing their grammatical role like stage directions. If these are indeed acting as ersatz noun cases, then...
- Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:42 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Apposition with nouns such as 'agent', 'patient' etc could replace case morphology
- Replies: 40
- Views: 23095
Re: Apposition with nouns such as 'agent', 'patient' etc could replace case morphology
Natural languages tend to minimise the amount of phonologically overt material they use for this sort of thing, so I wouldn't want to use this idea in a realistic conlang (of course, non-realistic conlangs are fine too). Even you got rid of the "numbering", which is redundant if you mark ...
- Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:50 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Apposition with nouns such as 'agent', 'patient' etc could replace case morphology
- Replies: 40
- Views: 23095
Apposition with nouns such as 'agent', 'patient' etc could replace case morphology
Both nouns would be inflected with the same numbered apposition inflection, which can be expressed in the gloss as "APP<n>". For example, Apposition of any noun and the word for 'agent/doer' replaces the ergative case and it might be expressed in the gloss as "<noun>-APP1 one.who.does...
- Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:21 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conworld idea: no clean break between language and almost-language
- Replies: 35
- Views: 13859
Re: Conworld idea: no clean break between language and almost-language
It doesn't mean them in some strict sense of 'meaning', but it can map to them:
A pheremone that increases attraction can map to "I love you", "I like you" or some varietion thereof.
Some pheremone that happens in response to injury can map to "Ow!".
Et cerera.
A pheremone that increases attraction can map to "I love you", "I like you" or some varietion thereof.
Some pheremone that happens in response to injury can map to "Ow!".
Et cerera.
- Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:42 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conworld idea: no clean break between language and almost-language
- Replies: 35
- Views: 13859
Re: Conworld idea: no clean break between language and almost-language
So how can you eliminate the difference between voluntary (conscious) and involuntary (unconscious) behaviour, if both are necessary? I was talking about eliminating the difference in expression . So, instead of evolving a different lexicon for conscious signalling versus certain kinds of unconscio...
- Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:29 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conworld idea: no clean break between language and almost-language
- Replies: 35
- Views: 13859
Re: Conworld idea: no clean break between language and almost-language
but there is no "lexicon" of the subconscious it isn't true language, and it is impossible for there to be one because language is based on the way a conscious mind thinks. The way a conscious mind thinks evolved in the real world from the way the subconscious thinks. According to the cur...
- Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:20 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conworld idea: no clean break between language and almost-language
- Replies: 35
- Views: 13859
Re: Conworld idea: no clean break between language and almost-language
If it's too difficult to evolve in a particular way, then a species will make do. If my understanding of evolution is correct, it seeks the local maxima not the global (It was ages ago that I watched this video but I'm fairly sure it will explain what I mean.)
- Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:08 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conworld idea: no clean break between language and almost-language
- Replies: 35
- Views: 13859
Re: Conworld idea: no clean break between language and almost-language
I'm not sure how this differs from the real world? Most humans, for instance, are in very little doubt about what a dog seems to be saying at any given moment... We still in the real world have a difference between pheromone communication and verbal communication. Yes, some animals have some senses...