Zompist Bboard Again

Have you thought much about the writing medium? That can be a good way in to refining your script. Think about the surface, the implement and pigment if there is one (the more specific the better). Maybe pick a set that's different to the styles you tend towards? Actually using it will get you the ...

SE Asian scripts were often written on banana leaves, which tear with straight lines. Hence the extreme curviness of Malayalam, Tamil and other related scripts. 1. Why do people keep calling South Asia "Southeast Asia"? Thai, Khmer, etc. got their scripts as a result of South Asian (mainl...

That does sound intriguing! Small request: could you post some screenshots? I feel your description is a bit vague, so having a few screenshots might help to illustrate the aims of the app and/or provoke more interest.

So I just checked this thread and my question got a lot of replies — thanks so much everyone! I’d better go through them one by one… What to do is ignore him because that answer is ridiculous and makes no sense. (In general my advice to people in this thread would be to ignore Akangka's pronouncemen...

Still not satisfied with my conscript. It seems like it has too many horizontal lines and the implementation of features is rather complicated and abstract. I have been trying to find inspiration for alternative proposals but it seems like all the good ideas for scripts are taken. My sketches keep ...

1. Can the glottal stop do anything other than disappearing or turning into /h/? Yes, being treated as voiceless consonant, so if you devoice vowel between voiceless consonant, you can do that. Another way is to combine it with another stop to form an ejective. Or to combine with vowel to form a cr...

Can the glottal stop do anything other than disappearing or turning into /h/? Not much, really...glottal stops are pretty much the end of the line. Maybe turning into epiglottals or something very close, which could then maybe do other things? But I'm not aware offhand of any actual examples of tha...

A few questions: Can the glottal stop do anything other than disappearing or turning into /h/? Is it plausible to have x, ɣ → j / unconditionally? If not, what conditions could this occur in (if any)? In a syllable-timed language without any sort of contrastive stress, it plausible to have [+short] ...

Raholeun wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:48 pm Wikipedia mentions it, maybe there's more information in one of the linked sources.

I didn’t see that — thanks! I actually did look on that page, but didn’t think to look at that particular section.

And the current Hmong and Zhuang orthographies, which as I mentioned in my previous post use letters which are otherwise unused instead of numbers, are worst — not only are they not mnemonic, they look exactly like regular letters. Pah! These systems are cool, to be sure, but not as cool as mediaev...

My first choice for tones is diacritics that match the tone contour, as in pinyin Though Mandarin is unusually suited to that approach Why do you think this is? and really only if you think of its low tone in terms of the contour it gets when spoken in isolation. This is true. But tone sandhi makes...

That's actually pretty awesome! Thanks for sharing that, I had never seen it. You’re welcome! There’s a lot of strange romanization systems out there… My first choice for tones is diacritics that match the tone contour, as in pinyin, but these would be a close second. Regular numerals stand out a l...

I don't see what's bad about that, it's easy to see and distinguish from punctuation marks, and looks like a glottal stop character. (I assume you’re talking about Squamish here.) There isn’t anything bad about that per se , it’s just that it’s a bit weird to use a numeral in the middle of a word a...

Here's my latest conlang idea: Vowels: /i a e o u ɨ/ + length Things that are definitely consonant phonemes: /m p b f t̪ d̪ s̪ n t d ɾ l k g x w j/ Things that may be phonemes or C+yod clusters: /mʲ pʲ bʲ fʲ βʲ~ɥ t̪s̪ z̪ ʃ ɲ tʃ ʎ/ Things that are allophones of NC clusters that may be becoming phone...

Using a comma for the glottal stop is even worse than Tlingit's decision to use a period. :shock: Well, it looks like there are actually three separate orthographies, all of which use period for the glottal stop! One orthography using it is bad enough, but how other people thought it was an idea go...

masako wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:07 am So, it seems like <aa> is my best option.

Why? (To be clear, I’m not criticising you, I’m just curious about your reasoning.)

This came up in a discussion of Salishan orthography in the Conlang Random Thread, but I was urged to copy it over here. So: That's a standard Salishan orthography; it only occurs in <t̓ᶿ> because there's no /tθ/ in the language, only /tθ’/. The Salishan language with the actually weird (aka stupid)...

Akangka wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:43 am Please put that here: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=256

Yes, I was actually planning to do just that! (But thanks for the reminder — I almost forgot.) It will be up in a couple of minutes.

That's a standard Salishan orthography; it only occurs in <t̓ᶿ> because there's no /tθ/ in the language, only /tθ’/. The Salishan language with the actually weird (aka stupid) orthography is Saanish (SENĆOŦEN) , which (almost) only uses capital letters. Oh yes, I completely forgot about Saanich! Th...

Personally I prefer <aa>. However, if your language treats length as distinctive quality, then <ā>. Question: Why would you need to indicate length if it’s not distinctive? Please don't use <á>. I completely agree! Alternatively, if you write germlang, or your vowel is predictably long in open coda...