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by Pabappa
Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:27 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Shortest words for basic concepts
Replies: 67
Views: 55087

Re: Shortest words for basic concepts

Japanese u "cormorant" Irish aodh "fire".. used as a name element, not sure of pronunciation because wiktionary lists both /e:/ and /i:/ Swedish & Danish have å "river" and Swedish also has ö "island". Loads of examples in Mandarin, as pointed out above......
by Pabappa
Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:29 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conworld idea: no clean break between language and almost-language
Replies: 35
Views: 13479

Re: Conworld idea: no clean break between language and almost-language

We eat whales and dolphins, which are known to have languages .... any sea animal would likely have a language inaudible to human ears, so I'd say at least there'd be some situations similar to what we have today , but a lot depends on what you want to do....Maybe humans have retained instincts left...
by Pabappa
Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:36 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 1782
Views: 4966855

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Is that what Trump has? I just hear it as "biyyions and biyyions".
by Pabappa
Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:13 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conworld idea: no clean break between language and almost-language
Replies: 35
Views: 13479

Re: Conworld idea: no clean break between language and almost-language

Is linguistic ability inherited within the DNA of each animal? Can some animals be born already able to speak? Can some animals speak fluently with other animals? Are there groups of species that evolved exactly the same language so they could more easily cohabit? I like it, and there's a lot of roo...
by Pabappa
Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:01 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Macrofamily thread: Indo-Uralic, Altaic, Eurasiatic, Nostratic etc.
Replies: 263
Views: 167795

Re: The Great Macrofamily thread: Indo-Uralic, Altaic, Eurasiatic, Nostratic etc.

Other end of the planet but ... I wanted to post a link to this:

Austronesian/Ongan

PDF

It's the same woman who linked IE to Basque.... I guess she has a bit of a reputation as an optimist?
by Pabappa
Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:23 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3069
Views: 2934548

Re: Conlang Random Thread

I use prenasalized stops a lot. My major conlangs don't have them, but I've considered having it such that syllables in Poswa front load nasal+stop clusters, so e.g. tampa would be /ta.mpa/ just as it is in the languages with the true prenasals. I also have some languages with ejectives, but here ag...
by Pabappa
Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:56 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1333
Views: 841601

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

I draw tables when I do this .... one axis for the first consonant in the cluster, the other for the second. Then I map out how I want each consonant cluster to resolve. See for example http://www.pabappa.com/pics/tarise-word-initial.png Of course, my languages tend not to be very cluster-heavy, so ...
by Pabappa
Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:52 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Replies: 1043
Views: 1102849

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel

Is there a simple explanation for where the masc plural -oi~ī of gk and latin came from? PIE doesn't seem to have had anything similar. Classical Latin in particular seems to have avoided plurals in -s.
by Pabappa
Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:17 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang fluency thread
Replies: 2606
Views: 1521943

Re: Conlang fluency thread

Maybe he likes the sound of a fan when he's sleeping. Perchance sound-him fan-s-of like-it-he when himself-him sleep-does-he. Peppe, pobiambo babwažažo. correct-2P, noise-3P-LOC-1P.PASS comfort-TR.1P.PASS Yes, its noise comforts me. Pi, pubbos wemieža ... župilas pentšambo. but, bedsheet-1P-GEN thi...
by Pabappa
Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:22 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: If natlangs were conlangs
Replies: 584
Views: 513522

Re: If natlangs were conlangs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kildin_S%C3%A1mi_language

Really? You cant just throw a bunch of extra letters and apostrophes into Finnish and call it a separate language. And, have you actually tried reading this out loud? I mean, jiev liijja, what even is that?
by Pabappa
Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:44 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Names, Naming Conventions, and Name Usage
Replies: 61
Views: 38547

Re: Names, Naming Conventions, and Name Usage

It reminds me of cardinals, e.g. Bernard Cardinal Law of Boston, where the "cardinal" always directly precedes the last name even if the first name is given.
by Pabappa
Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:22 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Orange in French
Replies: 14
Views: 10347

Re: Orange in French

Yo estoy a la franja
Buscando en la zanja
De mi viejita granja
Porqué tengo la tanja
Para una gran dulce naranja.
by Pabappa
Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:35 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4753
Views: 2217500

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Arguably "me" is the basic form ... c.f. "it's me!" and children saying "me and Daddy went to the store".
by Pabappa
Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:58 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Non-IE Schleicher's fables
Replies: 11
Views: 8422

Re: Non-IE Schleicher's fables

There is a poem in nostratic :
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http://www.suduva.com/virdainas/nostraticist.htm
But it's highly speculative because it doesn't assume inflections.
by Pabappa
Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:29 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 1782
Views: 4966855

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Raholeun wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:01 pm What about to sulk?
I've never heard that without the L, since it'd collide with suck.
by Pabappa
Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:34 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang fluency thread
Replies: 2606
Views: 1521943

Re: Conlang fluency thread

Pappipetšosa wipambi, bappampopapie. sunflower-indoor-1p.POSS-GEN-3p break-REFL-3p-LOC-1p.PASS, new-3P-LOC-TRANSL-1P-SUBJ-need-1P.past My fan broke, so I had to buy a new one. Pi, pappipes wifopo, šannas bampo. but, sunflower-GEN find-1p-SUBJ-1p, winter-GEN struggle-1p But it's difficult to find fa...
by Pabappa
Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:20 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Paleo-European languages
Replies: 808
Views: 1019605

Re: Paleo-European languages

Assuming those actually are the Iberian numbers, they look so similar to the Basque ones that I'd have to suspect borrowing, on the grounds that if the similarity is genetic the languages should be sufficiently closely related that Basque should have been more useful in understanding Iberian than i...
by Pabappa
Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:49 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 1782
Views: 4966855

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Bolth I've heard from a fair number of speakers, but I don't have it myself. I'm trying to recall if I have any instances of hypercorrection since I'm much more likely to delete coda /l/ entirely (e.g. folk , yolk , walk ). ...? Are you implying that some people insert /l/ even into words like folk...
by Pabappa
Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:04 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: Dream sharing thread
Replies: 218
Views: 298228

Re: Dream sharing thread

I was getting hired by a hotel to do security. I showed them how easy it was to get into the building, without ever passing a security guard, or even passing thru the lobby. There was a staff entrance about 20 feet down the street from the main entrance, and it was unlocked, at least during busines...
by Pabappa
Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:43 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: Confusing headlines
Replies: 708
Views: 564666

Re: Confusing headlines

Sloppy editing at the Rutland Herald tells us that in Vermont, craft breweries now outnumber people: Vermont is the friendliest state for small-batch suds with 11.5 breweries per capita .... As of 2018, Vermont tops the list as the most popular state for craft beer, followed closely by Montana and M...