Natural languages and linguistics
anteallach
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by anteallach » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:37 am
Raholeun wrote: ↑ Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:49 pm
What about "genuine"?
/ˈdʒɛnjuːɪn/, [ˈdʒɛn̠ʲjʉɪn]
[n̠ʲ] here indicates a clearly palatalised nasal with a laminal postalveloar PoA similar to that of /dʒ/. The [ʉɪ] is perceived as two syllables, not a diphthong.
Imralu
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by Imralu » Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:42 pm
[ˈd͡ʒɛnjəwən]
Travis B.
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by Travis B. » Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:57 pm
Carnal and cardinal .
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Salmoneus
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by Salmoneus » Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:26 pm
Saw some spelling homework for children, and realised I pronounced something "wrong".
How does everyone pronounce "version"?
Travis B.
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by Travis B. » Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:20 pm
[ˈvʁ̩ːʒɘ̃(ː)n]
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
bbbosborne
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by bbbosborne » Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:22 pm
[ˈvɚːʒɪn]
when the hell did that happen
Znex
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by Znex » Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:23 pm
[ˈvɵːʒ(ɨ)n]
zyxw59
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by zyxw59 » Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:08 pm
cardinal: [ˈkɑɹd̚n̩l̩] (with slight retroflexing on the /d/ and /n/)
carnal: [ˈkɑɹnl̩] (with much less retroflexing on the /n/)
version: [ˈvɹ̩ʒn̩]
Linguoboy
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by Linguoboy » Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:36 pm
Salmoneus wrote: ↑ Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:26 pm
How does everyone pronounce "version"?
virgin , deaffricated.
Nortaneous
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by Nortaneous » Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:57 am
cardinal /kardnəl/ [kɒɹd̺n̺ɫ̩]
carnal /karnəl/ [kɒɹn̺ɫ̩]
version /vɚʒən/ [vɚʒn̩]
virgin /vɚdʒɨn/ [vɚdʒɪn]
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
mèþru
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by mèþru » Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:58 am
cardinal [kɑɹ.dɪn.əɫ]
carnal [kɑɹ.nʌɫ] - almost rhymes with cardinal but doesn't
version [vɚʒ.n̩]
virgin [vɚ.dʒɪn]
ìtsanso , God In The Mountain, may our names inspire the deepest feelings of fear in
urkos and all his ilk, for we have saved another man from his lies! I welcome back to the feast hall kal, who will never gamble again! May the eleven gods bless him!
kårroť
Travis B.
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by Travis B. » Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:40 pm
midnight
good night
couldn't
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Nortaneous
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by Nortaneous » Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:42 pm
Ryan of Tinellb wrote: ↑ Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:23 pm
ablative : stress on the first or second syllable?
I've only ever heard it as /ˈæblətɨv/.
Travis B. wrote: ↑ Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:40 pm
midnight
good night
couldn't
/ˈmidˌnajt/ [ˈmɪd̚nʌi̯ʔt̚]
/gud najt/ [gʊd̚ ˈnʌi̯ʔt̚]
/ˈkudənt/ [ˈkʰʊdn̩(ʔ)]
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
mae
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by mae » Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:15 am
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bbbosborne
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by bbbosborne » Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:01 am
Travis B. wrote: ↑ Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:40 pm
ablative: stress on the first or second syllable?
second: [ə̆ˈbleɪɾɪv]
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bbbosborne on Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
when the hell did that happen
mèþru
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by mèþru » Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:35 am
ablative: /ˈæb.lə.tɪv/
midnight: [ˈmɪd ˈnai̯t̚]
good night: [ˈgʊd ˈnʌi̯t̚]
couldn't: [ˈkʰʊd.n̩t]
ìtsanso , God In The Mountain, may our names inspire the deepest feelings of fear in
urkos and all his ilk, for we have saved another man from his lies! I welcome back to the feast hall kal, who will never gamble again! May the eleven gods bless him!
kårroť
Zaarin
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by Zaarin » Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:38 am
ablative [əˈbɫɛɪ̯ɾɪv]
midnight [mɪʔdˈnɐɪ̯ʔ]
good night [ˈgʊʔd̚ ˈnɐɪ̯ʔ]
couldn't [ˈkʰʊʔn̩ʔ]
But if of ships I now should sing, what ship would come to me?
What ship would bear me ever back across so wide a Sea?
Travis B.
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by Travis B. » Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:29 pm
Interesting - none of you have assimilation of /dn/ to [nː] (which, along with assimilation of /bm/ to [mː], I am used to here).
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
bbbosborne
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by bbbosborne » Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:46 am
how do you pronounce:
lineage
temporal
when the hell did that happen