Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

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foxcatdog wrote: Mon Nov 24, 2025 11:25 pm *m *n
*b *d *g
*p *t̪ *c *k *q
*v *z
*f *s̪ *x *h
*l *j *w
*r

*i *y *u
*e *o
*a
I'm going to try and romanize this with as few letters as possible. The first time will be as if the entire inventory is separate phonemes, the second time will also assume many are allophones

Independent phonemes:

/m n/ np n
/b d g/ pp nn nk
/p t̪ c k q/ p t ke g kk
/v z/ ph nh
/f s̪ x h/ ho th kh h(h)
/l j w/ r e o
/r/ rr

If /t̪/ and /s̪/ weren't explicitly dental, they would have been <nh> and <rh>, respectively

/i y u/ e eo o
/e o/ ae ao
/a/ a

I don't know the phonotactics of this language (nor most of the other ones in this thread), but <hh> is used for /h/ next to a letter with which it would normally form a multigraph with. Otherwise an apostrophe is used for this purpose.

Allophones:

/m n/ m n
/b d g/ m n k
/p t̪ c k q/ p t k k k
/v z/ m n
/f s̪ x h/ p t k h
/l j w/ r i u
/r/ r

underlying consonant inventory: /m~b~v~w n~d~z~j p~f t̪~s̪ k~c~q~g~x~z~j h s r~l w j/. the archiphoneme is listed first, which further shrinks the inventory to /m n p t̪ k h r j w/.


* All consonants can lengthen, tho some of them change into other phonemes. Long consonants do not occur word-initially.
* Generally, /m n/ always occur next to another consonant, /p b t̪ d c k/ always occur when lengthened, and /f v s̪ z x/ always occur between vowels or word-finally. Word-initially, /m/ and /b/, /n/ and /d/, and /k/ and /g/ are in free variation; however, /f v s̪ z x/ can occur word-initally in rapid speech after a word ending in a vowel.
* /v/ often further weakens to /w/ or simply lengthens a following /u/ (including /uj/ becoming /y/).
* /p t̪ k~c~q/ become /f s̪ x/ if next to a consonant that is not a fricative or approximant. Otherwise, they stay the same. If the next consonant is voiced, both /k~c~q/ and /x/ become /g/.
* /i u/ become /j w/ before or (sometimes) after a vowel. When /i/ palatalizes the preceding consonant and it follows a vowel, the underlying /j/ merged with the aforementioned palatalized consonant.
* /t̪ k x/ always become /s̪ c s̪/ before /i~j/ (including /iw/ becoming /y/), tho only /k/ to /c/ occurs when lengthened. Likewise, /n~d g/ before /i~j/ or /y/ are usually /z/, but this is likely to weaken to /j/ or merely lengthen a following /i/ or /y/.
* /k/ always becomes /q/ before /a/, including /aj aw/ becoming /e o/.
* /m~b~v p~f/ take an epithentic /w/ before a vowel other than /u/ (again including /y/ from /uj/) and may lengthen said vowel. Sometimes this offglide is dropped before /aw~o/, or after /m/. This is assuming /v/ does not lenit to /w/.
* /r/ always becomes /l/ word-finally, before /j/ (but not necessarily /i/), or after fricatives. /r/ is always between vowels or after a consonant that is not a fricative. Otherwise, /r/ and /l/ are in free variation.
* /m n g/ nasalize the following vowels and semivowels. This includes /m~b n~d g/ weakening to /v~w z~j z~j/.

/i y u/ i ui u
/e o/ ai au
/a/ a

underlying vowel inventory: /a i u/. there are also the contours /aj aw iw uj/, but these often collapse into /e o y y/.

* All vowels lengthen, however this only occurs in stressed open syllables and it is not phonemic.
* Contours /aj aw iw uj/ become /e o y y/ when not in lengthening environments or before another vowel.
* Impossible consonant clusters add an epithentic /e/ (next to coronals) or /o/ (next to other consonants). This vowel is not written.
* The exact quality of /a/ is rooted in vowel harmony. /a/ is perfectly central normally or if the next syllable has another /a/ (including /aj aw/ becoming /e o/). If /i~j/ or /iw~y/ follows, it becomes front /a/, and if /u~w/ or /uj~y/ follows it becomes back rounded /ɒ/.
* Unstressed closed-syllable /i u/ often become /e o/.
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Starbeam wrote: Wed Nov 26, 2025 12:35 pm I don't know the phonotactics of this language (nor most of the other ones in this thread), but <hh> is used for /h/ next to a letter with which it would normally form a multigraph with. Otherwise an apostrophe is used for this purpose.
Yeah, it's always difficult without at least a sample, and ideally more of a phonology.
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*b *d *dʒ *g *gʷ
*p *t *ts *k *kʷ
*ʔp *ʔk *ʔ
*θ *s *ɮ *ʃ
*ɾ *ɺ
*j *w
*m *n *ɲ

*i *u




ʔpɛtɛ mɪmɛ än dʒuku dʒuku
father mother receive love love

mämɛnsi ɮimpɪɾ tän tsɛtsɪn
woman-PL be.tall to man-PL

ɲɛbunwɛ muɾuθɪtɛn sɪʔlä
cat-INDEF dog-1.pl hiss-IMPF

ʔɪkʷɪ gäɺugʷɪn dɛɺɛ ɾinkudä
water piece-little be.for drink-IMPF

ɮädʒuɺi än mɛɾɪnkɪ kʷɪʃɪtä
Name receive Name-m crush.on-IMPF

mitsɪpisti ʃämän bii θɛnäʔnɛpɛ
Name uncool.person DEM.1 destroy

wänä
yawn

jä tsɪn
hello man

mämä kʷäkʷä puliʃ
instant.noodles food be.bad

ʔkai
danger
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*b *d *dʒ *g *gʷ ⟨b d j g gw⟩
*p *t *ts *k *kʷ ⟨p t c k kw⟩
*ʔp *ʔk *ʔ ⟨'p 'k '⟩
*θ *s *ɮ *ʃ ⟨th s z x⟩
*ɾ *ɺ ⟨r l⟩
*j *w ⟨y w⟩
*m *n *ɲ ⟨m n ny⟩

*i *u ⟨i u⟩
*ɪ ⟨e⟩
*ɛ ⟨ae⟩
*ä ⟨a⟩

ʔpɛtɛ mɪmɛ än dʒuku dʒuku
father mother receive love love
'Paetae memae an juku juku

mämɛnsi ɮimpɪɾ tän tsɛtsɪn
woman-PL be.tall to man-PL
Mamaensi zimper tan caecen.

ɲɛbunwɛ muɾuθɪtɛn sɪʔlä
cat-INDEF dog-1.pl hiss-IMPF
Nyaebunwae muruthetaen se'la.

ʔɪkʷɪ gäɺugʷɪn dɛɺɛ ɾinkudä
water piece-little be.for drink-IMPF
'ekwe galugwen daelae rikuda.

ɮädʒuɺi än mɛɾɪnkɪ kʷɪʃɪtä
Name receive Name-m crush.on-IMPF
Zaejuli an maerenke kwexeta.

mitsɪpisti ʃämän bii θɛnäʔnɛpɛ
Name uncool.person DEM.1 destroy
Micepisti xaman bii thaena'naepae.

wänä
yawn
Wana

jä tsɪn
hello man
Ya cen.

mämä kʷäkʷä puliʃ
instant.noodles food be.bad
Mama kwakwa pulix.

ʔkai
danger
'Kai
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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*b *d *dʒ *g *gʷ ⟨b d j g gu⟩
*p *t *ts *k *kʷ ⟨p t c k qu⟩
*ʔp *ʔk *ʔ ⟨pp kk ∅⟩
*θ *s *ɮ *ʃ ⟨z s lz x⟩
*ɾ *ɺ ⟨r l⟩
*j *w ⟨i u⟩
*m *n *ɲ ⟨m n ñ⟩

*i *u ⟨ei u⟩
*ɪ ⟨i⟩
*ɛ ⟨e⟩
*ä ⟨a⟩

Ppete mime an juku juku
Mamensi lzeimpir tan cecin
ñebunue muruziten seilla
Iqui galuguein dele reinkuda
Lzajulei an merinki quixita
Meicipeistei xaman beiei zenannepe
Uana
Ia cin
Mama quaqua puleix
Kkai

ʔpɛtɛ mɪmɛ än dʒuku dʒuku
mämɛnsi ɮimpɪɾ tän tsɛtsɪn
ɲɛbunwɛ muɾuθɪtɛn sɪʔlä
ʔɪkʷɪ gäɺugʷɪn dɛɺɛ ɾinkudä
ɮädʒuɺi än mɛɾɪnkɪ kʷɪʃɪtä
mitsɪpisti ʃämän bii θɛnäʔnɛpɛ
wänä
jä tsɪn
mämä kʷäkʷä puliʃ
ʔkai
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PS – Proto Sāzlakuic (ancestor of LZ)
PRk – Proto Rākēwuic
XI – Xú Iạlan
VN – verbal noun
SUP – supine
DIRECT – verbal directional
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foxcatdog wrote: Sun Dec 21, 2025 10:44 pm *b *d *dʒ *g *gʷ
*p *t *ts *k *kʷ
*ʔp *ʔk *ʔ
*θ *s *ɮ *ʃ
*ɾ *ɺ
*j *w
*m *n *ɲ

*i *u


please stop putting asterisks next to all your phonemes, like these are protolangs. just put them in the middle of brackets, it makes everything easier to read and type. anywho:

/m n ɲ/ m n nn
/ʔp ʔk ʔ/ pp kk tt
/p t ts k kʷ/ p t c k kw
/b d dʒ g gʷ/ b d dc g gw
/θ s ɮ ʃ/ z s ll sc
/ɾ ɺ/ r l
/j w/ y w

/i u/ i u
/ɪ/ y
/ɛ/ e
/ä/ a

/ʔpɛtɛ mɪmɛ än dʒuku dʒuku/
PPete myme an dcuku dcuku
father mother receive love love

/mämɛnsi ɮimpɪɾ tän tsɛtsɪn/
Mamensi llimpyr tan cecyn
woman-PL be.tall to man-PL

/ɲɛbunwɛ muɾuθɪtɛn sɪʔlä/
NNebunwe muruzyten syttla
cat-INDEF dog-1.pl hiss-IMPF

/ʔɪkʷɪ gäɺugʷɪn dɛɺɛ ɾinkudä/
TTykwy galugwyn dele rinkuda
water piece-little be.for drink-IMPF

/ɮädʒuɺi än mɛɾɪnkɪ kʷɪʃɪtä/
LLadculi an merynky kwyscyta
name receive name-m crush.on-IMPF

/mitsɪpisti ʃämän bii θɛnäʔnɛpɛ/
Micypisti scaman bii zenattnepe
name uncool.person DEM.1 destroy

/wänä| jä tsɪn| ʔkai/
Wana. Ya cyn. KKai
yawn. hello man. danger

/mämä kʷäkʷä puliʃ/
Mama kwakwa pulisc
instant.noodles food be.bad
Last edited by Starbeam on Mon Dec 22, 2025 4:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Starbeam wrote: Mon Dec 22, 2025 4:08 pm please stop putting asterisks next to all your phonemes, like these are protolangs. just put them in the middle of brackets, it makes everything easier to read and type. anywho:
I don't understand why foxcatdog does this, but I haven't bothered to comment on it because of all the nonsense foxcatdog has done this is really just an annoying quirk at the end of the day.
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Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
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Travis B. wrote: Mon Dec 22, 2025 4:30 pm
Starbeam wrote: Mon Dec 22, 2025 4:08 pm please stop putting asterisks next to all your phonemes, like these are protolangs. just put them in the middle of brackets, it makes everything easier to read and type. anywho:
I don't understand why foxcatdog does this, but I haven't bothered to comment on it because of all the nonsense foxcatdog has done this is really just an annoying quirk at the end of the day.
I think they're just young and/ or inexeprienced. There's no reason to assume malice or permanence about it
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*b *d *dʒ *g *gʷ b d dz g gw
*p *t *ts *k *kʷ p t ts k kw
*ʔp *ʔk *ʔ 'p 'k '
*θ *s *ɮ *ʃ th s ll sh
*ɾ *ɺ r l
*j *w y w
*m *n *ɲ m n ñ

*i *u i u
e
a
o

ʔpɛtɛ mɪmɛ än dʒuku dʒuku
'Pata mema on dzuku dzuku.
father mother receive love love

mämɛnsi ɮimpɪɾ tän tsɛtsɪn
Momansi llimper ton tsatsen.
woman-PL be.tall to man-PL

ɲɛbunwɛ muɾuθɪtɛn sɪʔlä
Ñabunwa muruthetan se'lo.
cat-INDEF dog-1.pl hiss-IMPF

ʔɪkʷɪ gäɺugʷɪn dɛɺɛ ɾinkudä
'Ekwe golugwen dala rinkudo.
water piece-little be.for drink-IMPF

ɮädʒuɺi än mɛɾɪnkɪ kʷɪʃɪtä
Llodzuli on marenke kwesheto.
Name receive Name-m crush.on-IMPF

mitsɪpisti ʃämän bii θɛnäʔnɛpɛ
Mitsepisti shomon bii thano'napa.
Name uncool.person DEM.1 destroy

wänä
*Wono...*
yawn

jä tsɪn
Yo, tsen!
hello man

mämä kʷäkʷä puliʃ
I refuse to type this.
instant.noodles food be.bad

ʔkai
'Kai
danger
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Starbeam wrote: Mon Dec 22, 2025 4:08 pm please stop putting asterisks next to all your phonemes, like these are protolangs. just put them in the middle of brackets, it makes everything easier to read and type. anywho:
I am a creature of habit. I got into the habit of doing that because I use google docs and now I just do it all the time.
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/b d dz dʒ g/
/p t tʃ k q/
/ʔp ʔt ʔtʃ ʔk ʔq/
/z ɣ/
/s x h/
/w r j/
/m n/

*r is identical to *w and *q is identical to *k (as is ʔq with ʔk) in pronunciation in most dialects but they are distinguished in the native script so you might as well do that here. Also the sequence *io is spelled as if it was *ya in the native script reflecting its original pronunciation (although it is a learned pronunciation it merged with *ia in the late middle period (although other sequences of *io exist and are preserved) and was reanalysed as such under the influence of former *ua which had become *uo)

/i u/
/e o/
/ɛ ɔ/
/a/

sɔdzi u maasajdi huaxanin kɔndɛ
forest in tiger-DEF hunt-NOM walk
“In the forest the tiger walks as a hunter”

sɔwsa ʔkiolandi i ʔpɔrux wewiɣ
knight fair-DEF of castle green
“The fair knight of green castle”

qingusinzɛ majai dʒawdɛn u halua
consort+queen maiden-DEF garden in attend.to-PRES
“The maiden queen-consort is attending to the gardens”

atatikɔ rɛnetu
snake-DEF-Patientive be.asleep
“The snake is asleep”

xaikɔwɣɛ i ɔnantax
sea-INDF of mind-PL
“A sea of minds”

jɛn warakuswan bɛni ʔqɔxɔruj
1.f thing+big-2.sg with dream-NOM
“I dream of big things with you”

nankɔn maj wionapax karumini piɛdɛnwɛʔtʃɛ bɛu tʃɛjanuj
3.f-Patientive 3.m leap-SUB.Strong.Desiderative achieve+love field+leek within play-NOM
“She grew to love him as they played in a field of leeks”

ʔtɔʔtaza dau henɔgmaw
demon-PL 1.pl enemy-VERB
“Demons are our enemies”

maja ʔtaxɛɣɛ zaiimawan
maiden joyous-INDF marry-SUB-2.sg
“May you marry a maiden joyous”

kɛnaɔ nankɔ maimaw
son-CONS 3.f-Patientive handsome-VERB
“Her son is handsome”

qaʔpi kit kuɔn bɛni
sword and shield with
“Sword and shield”
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*b *d *dʒ *g *gʷ <b d j g gw>
*p *t *ts *k *kʷ <p t ts k kw>
*ʔp *ʔk *ʔ <'p 'k '>
*θ *s *ɮ *ʃ <th s lh sh>
*ɾ *ɺ <r lr>
*j *w <y w>
*m *n *ɲ <m n ny>

*i *u <i u>
*ɪ <ɨ>
*ɛ <e>
*ä <a>

/ʔpɛtɛ mɪmɛ än dʒuku dʒuku. mämɛnsi ɮimpɪɾ tän tsɛtsɪn. ɲɛbunwɛ muɾuθɪtɛn sɪʔlä. ʔɪkʷɪ gäɺugʷɪn dɛɺɛ ɾinkudä. ɮädʒuɺi än mɛɾɪnkɪ kʷɪʃɪtä. mitsɪpisti ʃämän bii θɛnäʔnɛpɛ. wänä, jä tsɪn, mämä kʷäkʷä puliʃ. ʔkai/

'Pete mɨme an juku juku. Mamensi lhimpɨr tan tsetsɨn. Nyebunwe muruthɨten sɨ'la. 'Ɨkwɨ galrugwɨn delre rnikuda. Lhajulri an merɨnkɨ kwɨshɨta. Mitsɨpisti shaman bii thena'nepe. Wana, ya tsɨn. Mama kwakwa pulish. 'kai.

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/b d dz dʒ g/ <b d dz j g >
/p t tʃ k q/ <p t ch k k>
/ʔp ʔt ʔtʃ ʔk ʔq/ <'p 't 'ch 'k 'k>
/z ɣ/ <z gh>
/s x h/ <s kh h>
/w r j/ <w r y>
/m n/ <m n>

/i u/ <i u>
/e o/ <ê ô>
/ɛ ɔ/ <e o>
/a/ <a>

sɔdzi u maasajdi huaxanin kɔndɛ. sɔwsa ʔkiolandi i ʔpɔrux wewiɣ. qingusinzɛ majai dʒawdɛn u halua. atatikɔ rɛnetu. xaikɔwɣɛ i ɔnantax. jɛn warakuswan bɛni ʔqɔxɔruj. nankɔn maj wionapax karumini piɛdɛnwɛʔtʃɛ bɛu tʃɛjanuj. ʔtɔʔtaza dau henɔgmaw. maja ʔtaxɛɣɛ zaiimawan. kɛnaɔ nankɔ maimaw. qaʔpi kit kuɔn bɛni.

Sodzi u maasayi huakhanin konde. Sowsa 'kiôlandi i 'porukh wewigh. Kingusinze mayai jawden u halua. Atatiko renêtu. Khaikowghe i onantakh. Yen warakuswan beni 'kokhoruy. Nankon may wiônapakh karumini piedenwe'che beu cheyanuy. 'To'taza dau hênogmaw. Maya 'takheghe zaiimawan. Kenao nanko maimaw. Ka'pi kiit kuon beni.
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
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/b d dz dʒ g/ ⟨b d zz g(i) g/gu⟩
/p t tʃ k q/ ⟨p t c(i) c/qu k⟩
/ʔp ʔt ʔtʃ ʔk ʔq/ ⟨pp tt cc(i) cc/cqu kk⟩
/z ɣ/ ⟨z gh⟩
/s x h/ ⟨s x h⟩
/w r j/ ⟨u r i⟩
/m n/ ⟨m n⟩

/i u/
/e o/
/ɛ ɔ/
/a/
  • /io uo/ are spelled ⟨ia ua⟩
  • /kwi kwe kwɛ gwi ɡwe ɡwɛ t͡ʃjV d͡ʒjV ɛj ɔw/ are spelled ⟨qüi qüei qüe güi güei güe cïV gïV eï oü⟩ to distinguish them from /ki ke kɛ ɡi ɡe ɡɛ t͡ʃiV d͡ʒV e o/
  • /uV iV Vu Vi/ are spelled ⟨uuV iiV Vuu Vii⟩ to distinguish them from /wV jV Vw Vj/
/sɔdzi u maasajdi huaxanin kɔndɛ ‖ sɔwsa ʔkiolandi i ʔpɔrux wewiɣ ‖ qingusinzɛ majai dʒawdɛn u halua ‖ atatikɔ rɛnetu ‖ xaikɔwɣɛ i ɔnantax ‖ jɛn warakuswan bɛni ʔqɔxɔruj ‖ nankɔn maj wionapax karumini piɛdɛnwɛʔtʃɛ bɛu tʃɛjanuj ‖ ʔtɔʔtaza dau henɔgmaw ‖ maja ʔtaxɛɣɛ zaiimawan ‖ kɛnaɔ nankɔ maimaw ‖ qaʔpi kit kuɔn bɛni/
Sozzi u maasaidi huaxanin conde. Soüsa cquialandi i pporux ueuigh. Kinguinze maiaii giauden u haluua. Atatico reneitu. Xaiikoüghe i onantax. Ien uaracusuan beni kkoxorui. Nancon mai uianapax karumini piiedenuecce beuu ceïanui. Ttottaza dauu henogmau. Maia ttaxeghe zaiiimauan. Quenao nanco maiimau. Kappi quit kuuon beni.
LZ – Lēri Ziwi
PS – Proto Sāzlakuic (ancestor of LZ)
PRk – Proto Rākēwuic
XI – Xú Iạlan
VN – verbal noun
SUP – supine
DIRECT – verbal directional
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/b d dz dʒ g/ ⟨b d dz j g⟩
/p t tʃ k q/ ⟨p t c k q⟩
/ʔp ʔt ʔtʃ ʔk ʔq/ ⟨'p 't 'c 'k 'q⟩
/z ɣ/ ⟨z gh⟩
/s x h/ ⟨s kh h⟩
/w r j/ ⟨w r y⟩
/m n/ ⟨m n⟩

/i u/ ⟨i u⟩
/e o/ ⟨ei ou⟩
/ɛ ɔ/ ⟨e o⟩
/a/ ⟨a⟩

/sɔdzi u maasajdi huaxanin kɔndɛ ‖ sɔwsa ʔkiolandi i ʔpɔrux wewiɣ ‖ qingusinzɛ majai dʒawdɛn u halua ‖ atatikɔ rɛnetu ‖ xaikɔwɣɛ i ɔnantax ‖ jɛn warakuswan bɛni ʔqɔxɔruj ‖ nankɔn maj wionapax karumini piɛdɛnwɛʔtʃɛ bɛu tʃɛjanuj ‖ ʔtɔʔtaza dau henɔgmaw ‖ maja ʔtaxɛɣɛ zaiimawan ‖ kɛnaɔ nankɔ maimaw ‖ qaʔpi kit kuɔn bɛni/

Sodzi u maasaydi huakhanin konde. Sowsa 'kioulandi i 'porukh weiwigh. Qingusinze mayai jawden u halua. Atatiko reneitu. Khaikowghe i onantakh. Yen warakuswan beni 'qokhoruy. Nankon may wionapakh karumini piedenwe'ce beu ceyanuy 'to'taza dau heinogmaw. Maya 'takheghe zaiimawan. Kenao nanko maimaw. Qa'pi kit kuon beni.
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T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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/b d dz dʒ g/ b d dz j g
/p t tʃ k q/ p t ch k k
/ʔp ʔt ʔtʃ ʔk ʔq/ ṕ t́ ćh ḱ ḱ
/z ɣ/ z gh
/s x h/ s kh h
/w r j/ w w y
/m n/ m n

as this is a romanization, instead of an orthography, I'll try to keep this as simple as possible and avoid native spelling rules.

/i u/ i u
/e o/ e o
/ɛ ɔ/ é ó
/a/ a

Sódzi u maasaydi huakhanin kóndé.
sɔdzi u maasajdi huaxanin kɔndɛ
forest in tiger-DEF hunt-NOM walk
“In the forest the tiger walks as a hunter”

Sówsa ḱiolandi i ṕówukh wewigh.
sɔwsa ʔkiolandi i ʔpɔrux wewiɣ
knight fair-DEF of castle green
“The fair knight of green castle”

Kingusinzé mayai jawdén u halua.
qingusinzɛ majai dʒawdɛn u halua
consort+queen maiden-DEF garden in attend.to-PRES
“The maiden queen-consort is attending to the gardens”

Atatikó wénetu.
atatikɔ rɛnetu
snake-DEF-Patientive be.asleep
“The snake is asleep”

Khaikówghé i ónantakh.
xaikɔwɣɛ i ɔnantax
sea-INDF of mind-PL
“A sea of minds”

Yén wawakuswan béni ḱókhówuy.
jɛn warakuswan bɛni ʔqɔxɔruj
1.f thing+big-2.sg with dream-NOM
“I dream of big things with you”

Nankón may wionapakh kawumini piédénwéćhé béu chéyanuy.
nankɔn maj wionapax karumini piɛdɛnwɛʔtʃɛ bɛu tʃɛjanuj
3.f-Patientive 3.m leap-SUB.Strong.Desiderative achieve+love field+leek within play-NOM
“She grew to love him as they played in a field of leeks”

T́ót́aza dau henógmaw.
ʔtɔʔtaza dau henɔgmaw
demon-PL 1.pl enemy-VERB
“Demons are our enemies”

Maya t́akhéghé zaiimawan.
maja ʔtaxɛɣɛ zaiimawan
maiden joyous-INDF marry-SUB-2.sg
“May you marry a maiden joyous”

Kénaó nankó maimaw.
kɛnaɔ nankɔ maimaw
son-CONS 3.f-Patientive handsome-VERB
“Her son is handsome”

Kaṕi kit kuón béni.
qaʔpi kit kuɔn bɛni
sword and shield with
“Sword and shield”
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The most daring part about this is all the acute accents for the more common low-mid vowels.
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foxcatdog wrote: Tue Dec 23, 2025 9:01 pm The most daring part about this is all the acute accents for the more common low-mid vowels.
I like to associate /e o/ with their matching latin symbols, and the acutes for the lower vowels just naturally came as a biproduct of that, but retroactively I might say that I did that so as to make the acutes more common, making the consonants which also have them (particularly t́ and ḱ) appear as less of an eyesore.
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/*b *d *dʒ *g *gʷ/ b d dj g gw
/*p *t *ts *k *kʷ/ p t ts k kw
/*ʔp *ʔk *ʔ/ bp gk c
/*θ *s *ɮ *ʃ/ f s sl sj
/*ɾ *ɺ/ r l
/*j *w/ j w
/*m *n *ɲ/ m n nj

/*i *u/ i u
/*ɪ/ y
/*ɛ/ e
/*ä/ a

Bpete myme an djuku djuku.
ʔpɛtɛ mɪmɛ än dʒuku dʒuku
father mother receive love love

Mamensi slimpyr tan tsetsyn.
mämɛnsi ɮimpɪɾ tän tsɛtsɪn
woman-PL be.tall to man-PL

Njebunwe murufyten sicla.
ɲɛbunwɛ muɾuθɪtɛn sɪʔlä
cat-INDEF dog-1.pl hiss-IMPF

Cikwi galugwyn dele rinkuda.
ʔɪkʷɪ gäɺugʷɪn dɛɺɛ ɾinkudä
water piece-little be.for drink-IMPF

Sladjuli an merynky kwysjyta.
ɮädʒuɺi än mɛɾɪnkɪ kʷɪʃɪtä
Name receive Name-m crush.on-IMPF

Mitsypisti sjaman bii cenacnepe.
mitsɪpisti ʃämän bii θɛnäʔnɛpɛ
Name uncool.person DEM.1 destroy

Wana.
wänä
yawn

Ja tsin.
jä tsɪn
hello man

Mama kwakwa pulisj.
mämä kʷäkʷä puliʃ
instant.noodles food be.bad

Gkai.
ʔkai
danger
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Hpa-an Sgaw Karen

/p θ t c k ʔ/
/pʰ tʰ cʰ kʰ/
/ɓ ɗ ɡ/
/m n ɲ ŋ/
/ɕ x h/
/z ɣ ɦ/
/w r l j/

/i ɨ ɯ u/
/e ə o/
/ɛ a ɔ/
All vowels except /ɨ/ may also occur with a final glottal stop.

/c cʰ/ are sometimes (usually in formal contexts) pronounced [s sʰ]. /ɡ z/ are loan phonemes. /ɯ/ is newly phonemicized in open syllables, however the contrast is important for native speakers. In closed syllables it can theoretically be analyzed as an allophone of /ɨ/.

There are 6 tones, 4 normal and 2 checked. They are as following:
/à ā á â àʔ āʔ/
Note that what's here written as /à/ is in fact a low-falling tone, [a41]. Its checked equivalent is however a true low tone, [aʔ11/21]. Sesquisyllables are atonal.

/lɯ́ ɲá khɔ́ nê thwî ʔô tə dɨ́, ʔô lɯ́ pwà klá də̄ʔ ʔə təkɔ̄ʔ dɔ́ dû nê lɔ̄. thwî tə dɨ́ nê hāʔ hɨ̂ ʔɔ̂ wɛ́ tà lɯ́ təwɔ́ pū nê kɔ̄ʔ mɨ̀há dɛ̄ʔ lɔ̄. mɨ̀ ʔô tə nī pwāŋáɕɨ̂tàphó tə ɣā ɕɨ̂ né pwā tà wī, híné wɛ́ təpə̄ phāʔdô tə phlə̂, cɛ́ lɔ̄ wɛ́ thí lá, lɯ́ təpə̄ phāʔdô pū wī, kə cɨ̂ lá tàkútàkā nê lɔ̄. thwî tàblâ tə dɨ́ nê lɛ̄ thɔ̂ hî ʔɔ̂ tà lɯ́ pwā hî pū blɔ́, pwā kɔ̄ʔxá ɦɔ̄, ʔəwɛ́ phɯ̄ʔ tə blɔ́, phɨ́ lɔ̄ wɛ́ wī tə blɔ́, bâ wɛ́dâ lɯ́ thí lá təpə̄ pū ʔəxó, lá wɛ́ dɔ́ dɨ́ nê lɔ̄./
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Did you forget the nasal series?
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