Brassica SCA [v1.0.0]

[Darren]

Running it right-to-left should do it: try -rtl C r → \.

That has no effect;

categories
C = p t k r
V = i u a
end

-rtl C r → \

gives you aptra > *aprta still.

[Darren]

Also the website's down for me too; I've just got an old tab open which is still running. It half-loaded for me a few hours ago but it was in the wrong font so I reloaded it and then got nothing.

[bradrn]

Running it right-to-left should do it: try -rtl C r → \.

That has no effect;

categories
C = p t k r
V = i u a
end

-rtl C r → \

gives you aptra > *aprta still.

OK, I believe I know why this doesn’t work: Brassica supports overlapping environments, but not overlapping targets. The output from one rule can’t be used as the input to another application of the same rule (though it can act as an environment for said application). I do have a standing item on my TODO list to change this, but it’s a difficult problem, since you need to avoid e.g. infinite loops.

After some experimentation, the actual incantation required to get this to work is a bit subtle: [C -r]* r → r [C -r]*. Basically, ‘match many non-⟨r⟩ consonants followed by an ⟨r⟩, then put them back in the opposite order’.

Also the website's down for me too; I've just got an old tab open which is still running. It half-loaded for me a few hours ago but it was in the wrong font so I reloaded it and then got nothing.

Should be fixed now. A brief power outage in Sydney caused the server to shut down.

[Darren]

Thanks Brad, that works. The website's back on line too.

[Lērisama]

The website is giving me a warning about the HTTPS certificate expiring.

[bradrn]

The website is giving me a warning about the HTTPS certificate expiring.

Ah yes, sorry. Will fix.

EDIT: done

[Lērisama]

The website is giving me a warning about the HTTPS certificate expiring.

Ah yes, sorry. Will fix.

EDIT: done

Thank you!

[þeprussianfrog]

Hello!
The website's currently down for me. Also, is Brassica for PC only available on Windows 10+ versions?

[bradrn]

Hello!
The website's currently down for me.

This was already reported on the GitHub; I’m in another country but will look into it when I get back home.

Also, is Brassica for PC only available on Windows 10+ versions?

I’m not aware of anything which would stop it working on older versions, though I haven’t tested it. (I can’t in any case…)

[Travis B.]

Hello!
The website's currently down for me. Also, is Brassica for PC only available on Windows 10+ versions?

I think it's also available for Linux (you may have to install GHC and compile it yourself, I onno, though).

[bradrn]

Hello!
The website's currently down for me. Also, is Brassica for PC only available on Windows 10+ versions?

I think it's also available for Linux (you may have to install GHC and compile it yourself, I onno, though).

Indeed, for Linux there’s an AppImage available.

[Travis B.]

Hello!
The website's currently down for me. Also, is Brassica for PC only available on Windows 10+ versions?

I think it's also available for Linux (you may have to install GHC and compile it yourself, I onno, though).

Indeed, for Linux there’s an AppImage available.

Tis true; not all people are up to the task of installing and using GHC.

[Lērisama]

I think it's also available for Linux (you may have to install GHC and compile it yourself, I onno, though).

Indeed, for Linux there’s an AppImage available.

Tis true; not all people are up to the task of installing and using GHC.

Yeah, that was a slog.

[þeprussianfrog]

I only have devices of Android and older Windows, going to test it on the latter today.

[þeprussianfrog]

At least for me it doesn't run properly on older Windows.

[Lērisama]

At least for me it doesn't run properly on older Windows.

What went wrong?

[þeprussianfrog]

The procedure entry point SystemParametersInfoForDpi could not be located in the dynamic link library C:\Program Files (x86)\Brassica\Qt6Gui.dll.
Checking online, SystemParamtersInfoForDpi is not working on Windows pre-10.

[Man in Space]

Bug report: using ⟨ɹɨjɹ⟩ as an input works when “Apply” is selected, but does not when “Report rules applied” is selected.

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new categories
V = a ə ɨ ɛ œ e ø i y ʌ ɔ ɤ o ɯ u
W = á ə́ ɨ́ ɛ́ œ́ é ǿ í ý ʌ́ ɔ́ ɤ́ ó ɯ́ ú
C = p t̪ t tʲ k q ʔ p t̪ʰ tʰ tʲʰ kʰ qʰ ɸ θ s ʃ x χ h β ð ɹ l j ɣ ʕ m n̪ n nʲ ŋ ʁ w f
Ÿ = a ə ɨ á ə́ ɨ́
E = ɛ e i ɛ́ é í
Ë = ʌ ɤ ɯ ʌ́ ɤ́ ɯ́
B = ɔ o u ɔ́ ó ú
Ö = œ ø y œ́ ǿ ý
S = p t̪ t tʲ k q ʔ
Ç = pʰ t̪ʰ tʰ tʲʰ kʰ qʰ 0
Š = ɸ θ s ʃ x χ 2
N = m n̪ n nʲ ŋ
D = m n ŋ
T = m̩ n̩ ŋ̩
F = ɸ θ s ɬ ʃ x h
ß = β ð ɹ l j ɣ ʁ
R = m n̪ n nʲ ŋ β ð ɹ l j ʁ ʕ
P = m p pʰ ɸ β
Ḱ = nʲ tʲ tʲʰ ʃ j
K = ŋ k kʰ x ɣ
Q = 0 q qʰ χ ʁ
G = w j ʁ
I = u i a
J = p t k
end

;aspiration loss
qʰ / h

Input lexicon:

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ɹɨjɹ
qʰəβɹ

Output lexicon:

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qʰəβɹ → həβɹ (qʰ / h)

[bradrn]

Bug report: using ⟨ɹɨjɹ⟩ as an input works when “Apply” is selected, but does not when “Report rules applied” is selected.

Actually, this is not a bug. No rules were applied to ⟨ɹɨjɹ⟩, therefore no rules were reported.

Still, this situation is clearly confusing. I should add some text explicitly saying that no rules were applied.

(Also… you know category names can be multiple characters long, right? There’s no need for names like ⟨ß⟩ as is necessary in, say, zompist’s SCA².)

[bradrn]

Hello!
The website's currently down for me.

This was already reported on the GitHub; I’m in another country but will look into it when I get back home.

Website should be back up now.