Conlang fluency thread

[Pedant]

Nai zuzyo.
I agree.

U ha ndei yu dyii bawe, do wai he myegi zye wi lye dyi u nggwelo nebyo zyu dwei ma.
If your goal is to have many words, then you should just create more words without thinking about what they are.

I hi do: I dyi ye ndzwa mo u ndu vyara.
Tada: there's a word for someone eating under a tree.

I hi do: I dyi ye ndzwa ni nwi u ye li u ngoi bozwa u zyei yu dei vwevwe gyabi u ye ze bo zolo mozwa u nyoi bi wi yu nilwo ye lu zwizwii ngwe.
Tada: There's a word for the feeling you get when you're thirsty because you're watching a sunset and don't want to go and drink water until the colours in the sky are gone.

Mye dena dyii myege ba ginggwa ne nge.
But these words will only rarely be spoken.

Bo zyeu ndyodyii li baba bawei he ngegyo vye ngingi zyi vyu u nge zyi ndwingei ngenge.
One who wants to expand vocabulary should write the kind of stories that the speakers of the language will tell.

Kadaris Bal-e Phairois kteros-i zandekyta pake. Zyr adairos-i nikabol-o neudr-o koualan denar.
truth-ERG language-CONST Phaeros-PL-ERG create-CONST poetry-OBJ want-1s-PRES.SUBJ ACT // nevertheless translate-CONST monologue-PL-CONST person-PL-CONST region-OBJ begin-1s-RETR.ACT
"Honestly I'd rather like to create poetry in Phaeroian. I've started translating soliloquies by people from the region, though."

[Leilis]

Kadaris Bal-e Phairois kteros-i zandekyta pake. ...
truth-ERG language-CONST Phaeros-PL-ERG create-CONST poetry-OBJ want-1s-PRES.SUBJ ACT ...
"Honestly I'd rather like to create poetry in Phaeroian. ..."

tea mevellean seád fi umbréin.
be your=desire-REFL good and not=easy
What you wish (to do) is good but hard!

talamm in i sen adhai, tetalamenai tetalamus i villis evi, fien untalamm feioni 'poem' fi 'poetry'.
be.created-PERF on.the.one.hand ABS.F 1.VOC.F hymn.ABS / PAS-be.created-FREQ=ABS.SG PAS-be.created-IPRF ABS.F long-OBL.F which-ABS.F / on.the.other.hand not=be.created-PERF thing=name-ABS.F 'poem' and 'poetry'.
Although I have made a hymn, which took a long time (lit. which was often being made for a long time; should maybe be imperf. instead but I like the look of freq. here), I have not made a word for 'poem' or 'poetry'!

(I have these:
adhai 'hymn' [perhaps < PH for 'strong-speech' but the ending doesn't quite work]
aiyar 'chant' [ = aiye-ar 'speech-knowledge']
emmea 'song' [< OH mev 'adorn' < PH *m-næpʰi 'loot' < *napʰa 'make landfall']
scir 'poet' [< sig 'be sung about, be glorified' < PH *sykʰa 'song?']
Maybe another derivative of sig can be 'poem / poetry'.)

[xxx]

v»_½x½Àv½»ÀÁ
(to express in a new way things that are very often named...)
conlanging...(or poetry...)
conlanging is poetry...

[Leilis]

@xxx

arc m'aiyesti sen una.
be.known-PERF your=mean.to.say-INF.ABS.F 1-VOC.F not.at.all
I have no clue what you're trying to say.

[bradrn]

@xxx

arc m'aiyesti sen una.
be.known-PERF your=mean.to.say-INF.ABS.F 1-VOC.F not.at.all
I have no clue what you're trying to say.

Boŋad nasrwelbulesnilbuʼi…
[ˈbo.ŋad nas.rwel.bu.les.nilˈbuʔi/
bo-oŋad nas-rwelbu-les·ni·lbuʼ-i
1-NEG.FOC INDEF.time-may-understand-3s

None of us ever do…

[/ˌnɐˈɾɛndɚduːd/]

@xxx

arc m'aiyesti sen una.
be.known-PERF your=mean.to.say-INF.ABS.F 1-VOC.F not.at.all
I have no clue what you're trying to say.

Boŋad nasrwelbulesnilbuʼi…
[ˈbo.ŋad nas.rwel.bu.les.nilˈbuʔi/
bo-oŋad nas-rwelbu-les·ni·lbuʼ-i
1-NEG.FOC INDEF.time-may-understand-3s

None of us ever do…

Cul-da mou xxx i mic mou minöi häde.
xxx is a very poetic person, as it happens.

[xxx]

o´Äº~´·}ÉPoÃ
(these words giving smile of me...)
thank you all...

[jal]

Honestly I'd rather like to create poetry in Phaeroian.

Dem powam u ahcip rayting pas ol. Fi mek dem kwolati, wan af no langwic ya so gut, it a ahcip fi mek, yus mekop langwic. Olso, powam nof taym ple pon langwic, an bile dem rul a langwic ya. Mi stan im les sway soso wen taym wan af nof senis bo langwic ya.

Poems are the most difficult thing to write. To make them really good, one needs to know a language so well, it's difficult to do with a conlang. Furthermore, poetry often plays with language, and ignores the rules of a language. My opinion is that it should only be tried when one has much experience with a language.


JAL

[WeepingElf]

Honestly I'd rather like to create poetry in Phaeroian.

Dem powam u ahcip rayting pas ol. Fi mek dem kwolati, wan af no langwic ya so gut, it a ahcip fi mek, yus mekop langwic. Olso, powam nof taym ple pon langwic, an bile dem rul a langwic ya. Mi stan im les sway soso wen taym wan af nof senis bo langwic ya.

Poems are the most difficult thing to write. To make them really good, one needs to know a language so well, it's difficult to do with a conlang. Furthermore, poetry often plays with language, and ignores the rules of a language. My opinion is that it should only be tried when one has much experience with a language.

Hrektam heseja menami.
right-OBJ be-3SG.PRES:PASS-ATTR think-1SG.PRES.ACT
'I think that is right.'

[xxx]

uÉuº^¼uº½uËvÉ
(my conlanging denying words of you...)
that is not my experience...

[Imralu]

Gan, gan, gynos-i orkoton neison balikteranonen akonen nakykonen kteranon, tasar gynos-i balikteranon la-akon.

Myei lye do, yui dyi ye dzo dyo u bye bya ndwinge.

c·zr¨«c¹¹Lªrª¨«Iz·«eJeª
(my invention by brain for new words not invented by man or other...)
I am an a priori conlanger...

Dyi wo u ye ndzwa zyi buqu Nidyeria gwe Deviri Qatembarai ma?
How do you say 'Nigeria' or 'David Attenborough'?

I hi do: I dyi ye ndzwa mo u ndu vyara.
I hi do: I dyi ye ndzwa ni nwi u ye li u ngoi bozwa u zyei yu dei vwevwe gyabi u ye ze bo zolo mozwa u nyoi bi wi yu nilwo ye lu zwizwii ngwe.
Mye dena dyii myege ba ginggwa ne nge.

rÅq¶qÇqÅ
(your definition of my language...)
that's my conlang....

Wai ze byo u ye he vwe!?
That wasn't to you or about you!?

[xxx]

Di wi we ye ndzwa zyi buqu Nidyeria gwe Deviri Qatembarai ma?

oÄ‷½À‷½»x¿ÀÁðÂ
(the first of the lands where vast numbers of men of brownness...)

g|¬ª¾e¹
(man unknown by me...)

Wai ze byo u ye he vwe!?

k¿‚°QTkÁl¿Rk°kÁT²k¿
(my good understanding of your words defining conlang mine...)
I understood, but it's a good definition of my conlang...

[quinterbeck]

ifan ruvaoga hi, nariwe bua ban
Somebody ask me [something], I can't think of what to say

[Imralu]

ifan ruvaoga hi, nariwe bua ban
Somebody ask me [something], I can't think of what to say

Mai zyeu wai ze mu ya zya nge?
Why can't you think of what to say?

Gwii lu ma?
Where are the fish?

Ha loi bahe ya bawe ngo?
Does the situation call for a lot of people?

Ha wai le zyamo hwi?
Do you like noodles?

Ha wai nye lwe?
Are you sleeping?

Lo lei ma?
What is love?

[xxx]

Mai zyeu wai ze mu ya zya nge?

wˎ¼Ðw͆¼¿…ÑXyË
(my lack of knowledge regarding the words giving pleasure to this man...)
I have no sense of humor...

Gwii lu ma?

|ÁÄ|¿ìÈ÷Ì
(animals living in water...)
fishes...

Ha loi bahe ya bawe ngo?

yÀQ¼|¼b{Å
(many men going maybe to this place...)
maybe a tourist destination...

Ha wai le zyamo hwi?

4¾w­°vÂIh¼
(Eating pleasant for me...)
bon appetit...

Ha wai nye lwe?

mÀm±WlÂlÀ
(your possible listening to words mine...)
perhaps can you hear me...

Lo lei ma?

a¦p¦LØ
(word maybe catching heart...)
maybe love...

[hwhatting]

What is love?

Laufun ni tum mi, ni tum mi, ni plés!
darling-SG.VOC NEG hurt-2SG.PRES.IPV 1SG-ACC , NEG hurt-2SG.PRES.IPV 1SG-ACC, NEG more
Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more!

[quinterbeck]

ifan ruvaoga hi, nariwe bua ban
Somebody ask me [something], I can't think of what to say

Mai zyeu wai ze mu ya zya nge?
Why can't you think of what to say?

Telvanga; Ineru ne suo dzaneru temie... golao mebu.
I don't know; Ineru still has few words... maybe that's why.

Gwii lu ma?
Where are the fish?

Sua ne hyounei, loun ne hyounei, bu bichou ne shaohe.
They're in the ocean, they're in the river, they're on my plate.

Ha loi bahe ya bawe ngo?
Does the situation call for a lot of people?

Mezi, hmeili tei!
Yes, it's a wedding!

Ha wai le zyamo hwi?
Do you like noodles?

Bure sozaon fei cha
Of course I like noodles!

Ha wai nye lwe?
Are you sleeping?

Muginye, a ikyn masho.
I'm not sleeping, but I will soon.

Lo lei ma?
What is love?

In nei jagas.
Something I give you.

Fei paraove lao jaekha!
Thank you for the good questions!

[Imralu]

What is love?

Laufun ni tum mi, ni tum mi, ni plés!
darling-SG.VOC NEG hurt-2SG.PRES.IPV 1SG-ACC , NEG hurt-2SG.PRES.IPV 1SG-ACC, NEG more
Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more!

O u o u o u u o u
U o u u o u
A a!
[untranslateable]

[Leilis]

Mai zyeu wai ze mu ya zya nge?
Why can't you think of what to say?

scivellus elfileni taléid sen, fiu unarrus tegéid!
I want to write a saga about (lit. to glorify) a great feat of old, but I don't know a method!

Gwii lu ma?
Where are the fish?

eltea doran forosis, eltheneisfe taláv e setis.
The fish are in the sea, until one is in a net.

Ha loi bahe ya bawe ngo?
Does the situation call for a lot of people?

una, rennen entissi sen.
No, I like the quiet.

Ha wai le zyamo hwi?
Do you like noodles?

ment ora sen iñurrún!
I have eaten them tonight!

Ha wai nye lwe?
Are you sleeping?

miniñ.
Soon.

Lo lei ma?
What is love?

te' ast' indi seilithi fiuna?
Is love righteousness that lasts forever?

[hwhatting]

O u o u o u u o u
U o u u o u
A a!
[untranslateable]

Yaic nainun ni tu commun esgunnoten reru.
already none-M.SG.ACC NEG ART-N.SG.ACC song-SG.ACC recognize-INF think-1SG.RES.INACT
I already was thinking that nobody would recognize the song.