Pronunciations you had to unlearn
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I very recently learned that in English, the "o" in "leopard" is silent. To think that for all that time, my inner ear had a completely false idea of how the face eating quote would sound like when spoken out aloud!
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The ⟨e⟩ is short¹ as well, which is odd. Interestingly this pronounciation of ⟨eo⟩ is also found in the word ⟨Leonard('s)⟩². Does anyone know whats going on here? I'd guess trisyllabic laxing and then … randomly dropping a schwa?
¹ In English spelling terminology, and coincidentally also in real life. It's the DRESS vowel /ɛ/.
² In the UK at least, it's much more likely that you come across something named St Leonard's than someone named Leonard.
Edit: forgot to double check my lexical set and got it wrong
Last edited by Lērisama on Mon Apr 13, 2026 3:18 am, edited 1 time in total.
LZ – Lēri Ziwi
PS – Proto Sāzlakuic (ancestor of LZ)
PRk – Proto Rākēwuic
XI – Xú Iạlan
VN – verbal noun
SUP – supine
DIRECT – verbal directional
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PS – Proto Sāzlakuic (ancestor of LZ)
PRk – Proto Rākēwuic
XI – Xú Iạlan
VN – verbal noun
SUP – supine
DIRECT – verbal directional
My language stuff
Re: Pronunciations you had to unlearn
I'm pretty sure the term is 'DRESS', not 'BED'.Lērisama wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2026 5:29 pmThe ⟨e⟩ is short¹ as well, which is odd. Interestingly this pronounciation of ⟨eo⟩ is also found in the word ⟨Leonard('s)⟩². Does anyone know whats going on here? I'd guess trisyllabic laxing and then … randomly dropping a schwa?
¹ In English spelling terminology, and coincidentally also in real life. It's the BED vowel /ɛ/.
I'd never even heard of a "St. Leonard's" until I saw your post.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Re: Pronunciations you had to unlearn
I should also note that 'Leonard' is just the English equivalent to Scandinavian/German 'Lennart'.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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I just learned how "coyote" is pronounced in English. Would never have expected that.
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The thing is the EngE pronunciation is the 'expected' one -- it's GA which has an unexpected pronunciation here.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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I had to look up the British pronunciation, as I had never encountered it before.
A further variation is whether “coyote” is pronounced with three syllables or two; some speakers drop the final vowel. When I was little, I was told that the former was the “Eastern” (US) pronunciation, while the latter was the “Western” one; for example, people in Ohio, where I grew up, pronounced “coyote” with three syllables, while my relatives in South Dakota pronounced it with two. I think that this may still be a broad tendency, but not universal; I’m sure that there are many exceptions.
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I pronounce it two different ways in free variation ─ /kaɪˈjoʊti/ [kʰae̯ˈjo̞ɾi(ː)] and /kəɪˈjoʊti/ [kʰəe̯ˈjo̞ɾi(ː)] ─ even though I am more likely to use the former when speaking carefully.Glenn wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2026 9:47 pmI had to look up the British pronunciation, as I had never encountered it before.
A further variation is whether “coyote” is pronounced with three syllables or two; some speakers drop the final vowel. When I was little, I was told that the former was the “Eastern” (US) pronunciation, while the latter was the “Western” one; for example, people in Ohio, where I grew up, pronounced “coyote” with three syllables, while my relatives in South Dakota pronounced it with two. I think that this may still be a broad tendency, but not universal; I’m sure that there are many exceptions.
Edit: And yes, I have heard of the two-syllable pronunciation, but I have never actually heard it in the wild here in Wisconsin.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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I was thinking of the pronunciation is this video:
https://bsky.app/profile/kylec.bsky.soc ... rqcekq6s2n
https://bsky.app/profile/kylec.bsky.soc ... rqcekq6s2n