Atlantean Language by the Creator of the Klingon Language: New Text with Links to Grammars and Dictionaries

[Bob]

Atlantean Language by the Creator of the Klingon Language: New Text with Links to Grammars and Dictionaries

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This is part of an "Atlantis The Lost Empire" film fanfic translated into the actual Okrand Atlantean language of the movie back in 2018 by me. This language was made by the creator of the Klingon Language, Marc Okrand. It's his only other sizeable language and even meant as a complete conceptual contrast to Klingon.
https://naviklingon.blogspot.com/2018/1 ... w=flipcard
To find the passage, search for:
flood great him MEBEL MOK TEM

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Here's a poster from the movie:



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Quick Okrand Atlantean Grammar Basics, all by me:
Grammar Sketch
https://naviklingon.blogspot.com/2018/1 ... =flipcard
You can also see the Wikipedia article, which I wrote years ago.

Dictionary of Canonical Words (About 500, 1/4 are of "assigned" meaning)
https://naviklingon.blogspot.com/2015/0 ... w=flipcard

Dictionary of Canonical and Imitation-Canonical Words (200,000 words)
( Download the non hieroglyphic one. )
https://app.box.com/s/g4sskwbylnuutxut80lbpqvqrs0p192z
Here is the presentation for that dictionary:
https://200katlantean.blogspot.com/2018 ... rview.html

Here is the entire corpus of canonical Atlantean:
https://naviklingon.blogspot.com/2015/0 ... w=flipcard

For all webpages and facebook groups by me about the language, search this webpage. I'll be cleaning it up a lot later today.
https://naviklingon.blogspot.com/2015/0 ... w=flipcard

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Before the Great Flood, the people of Atlantis began sending their people beyond the borders to explore and to create new kingdoms.

flood great him MEBEL MOK TEM
before BEL,
people LUDEN
of atlantis ADLANTIS AG
people him LUDEN TEM
their SOBIN
send MUTAP
begin did they PEM IM TOH
that DEG
borders TEKWOG EN TEM
beyond EYIB
for BET
to explore METUP E
and GIM
kingdoms MAKIT IR EN TEM
new TASLOND MIG
to create SAPEN E.

MEBELMOKTEM BEL , LUDEN ADLANTISAG LUDENTEM SOBIN MUTAP PEMIMTOH
DEG TEKWOGENTEM EYIB BET METUPE GIM MAKITIRENTEM TASLONDMIG SAPENE .




Notes:
It's an SOV language with only postpositions and Japanese subordinate clause order.
This is the official and canonical spelling, the native one. There's also a Berlitz style one that's more common in the books that came out with the movies, and a variant of that.
( The above is not glossed using standard scientific abbreviations or morpheme designations to make it more accessible to a general audience. I have also worked hard to pioneer such styles of glossing in my lifetime and even think they are the wave of the future in terms of overall accessibility for both scientists and non-scientists. At least in some situations. )

-EN Plural
-TEM Oblique Case
-AG Genitive Case
-E Infinitive
-MIL Adjective, Singular
-IM TOH Past Tense. 3.PL .
( I could be Perfect for all I know. Past was my best guess as of 2018 or even 2010 when I last did the most work on this language. I got my BA Linguistics in 2009. )
-@ ( Verbs that modal verbs modify are not marked by affixes. )

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Notes on writing system:

This is the actual writing system and orthography from the movie. It writes boustrophedon: right to left, then left to right, then right to left.

Except that it would only use spaces as word spacers, whereas I use | as a word-initial word spacer, like in the Behistun Inscription. Then I also here use || for a sentence final marker and : | for a comma. Gods or divine things are in red. These are all ancient conventions from around the world.

The background is a Bronze Script Chinese inscription because I think Atlantean was made to visually resemble that or Large Seal Script Chinese for overall appearance. It's otherwise mostly Phoenician and some Elder Futhark and Chinese with numerals | and : based on Mayan Hieroglyphic (5 and 2). It's round with a square hole in keeping with both Ancient Chinese and Ancient India iconography (visual cosmology, aesthetics).


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Thoughts: I have to decide how and if to make infinitives and participles (gerunds) in Atlantean. For this one, 2018, I used -E for infinitive but recently I've been using it for -ing, making gerunds. I also need to read about this stuff to try to get it right. Let's see what my few books and internet have to say. O ye viewers of this new Zompist Bboard, do you have any idea about this? I can mostly only remember what English and Latin does, though I've studied tremendous numbers of languages. Also 1600s Massachusett, which I think lacks gerunds or participles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerund
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerund#Latin_gerund
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participle

Image: Here's a post from the website I made for this text back in 2018.

[Bob]

I'm going to eventually get to the replies to the first thread I wrote about Atlantean and Pakuni. And I will try hard to do so graciously. But give me some time, my time online is limited and my schedule usually quite jam-packed. Even on weekends.

I remember college and K-12, when I had a lot more free time. Did anyone tell me those days would go away and never return? Surely my friends gave me implicit indication of the same.

My thanks to all for help. And my encouragement to all to off especially encouragement and praise to me, for these works manifesting so many long years of intense and frequent research and international travel on such a limited budget.

[Bob]

Wow! All that complaining on my other post. Then I do this great post with all the requested examples and no one replies.

[masako]

Wow! All that complaining on my other post. Then I do this great post with all the requested examples and no one replies.

It's a cruel world, huh.

[bradrn]

Wow! All that complaining on my other post. Then I do this great post with all the requested examples and no one replies.

I would note that it doesn’t mean anything bad if you don’t get any replies in a few days. For comparison, my first post (on the old board), presenting a sound change applier I made, took six months to get a reply! It could be that people just haven’t noticed your post yet, haven’t read through all your links, or think your work is good but don’t have anything else in particular to say about it.

(As for me, I’m in the middle of exams, and so I haven’t had a chance to go through all of your links yet. I hope I get some more spare time when they’re done!)