Resources Thread
Re: Resources Thread
https://indo-european.info/pokorny-etym ... ictionary/
Not sure if this has been posted, but it's an interesting PIE dictionary, some of the secondary links are quite useful as well.
Not sure if this has been posted, but it's an interesting PIE dictionary, some of the secondary links are quite useful as well.
Re: Resources Thread
Sure, if you regard "willful ignorance of laryngeals" as interesting. I can't think of any reason to use Pokorny over the LIV.
dlory to gourd
https://wardoftheedgeloaves.tumblr.com
https://wardoftheedgeloaves.tumblr.com
Re: Resources Thread
For those roots and for the material LIV leaves out? LIV features only root for which the IE languages show primary verbs, i.e. no purely nominal roots. And LIV lists nouns or adjectives derived from the roots it features only rarely. The sad truth is that no full dictionary of PIE exists that has all currently reconstructed roots with laryngeals plus the attested continuants in the PIE languages, or that includes up-to-date material from Anatolian and Tocharian. Therefore, Pokorny with its breadth of material is still useful.
-
- Posts: 769
- Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:58 pm
Re: Resources Thread
William Annis has reposted his Conlanger's Thesaurus, with some updates, the biggest one of which is that the PDF is now searchable.
- alynnidalar
- Posts: 336
- Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:51 am
- Location: Michigan
Re: Resources Thread
Oooh. Excellent news.
-
- Posts: 1746
- Joined: Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:12 am
Re: Resources Thread
The best overview of shared Balto-Slavic and Germanic subtrate vocabulary I've seen so far. It breaks down over a hundred roots by category, root shape, etc.
I did it. I made the world's worst book review blog.
-
- Posts: 1746
- Joined: Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:12 am
Re: Resources Thread
Most of you may already know about this, but Harold Orton's mid-century survey of English dialects is available online, and searchable by keyword. I am going county-by-county from Cornwall to Durham.
I did it. I made the world's worst book review blog.
Re: Resources Thread
https://linguisticmaps.tumblr.com/tagge ... istic-maps - several maps showing the occurrence of various linguistic features.
Self-referential signatures are for people too boring to come up with more interesting alternatives.
Re: Resources Thread
Some of the data seems questionable—e.g. Malagasy is listed as a language that doesn't mark tense, but it definitely does (on its verbs as well as its demonstratives!). They also keep referring to Aymara as 'Ayamara'.alice wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:32 am https://linguisticmaps.tumblr.com/tagge ... istic-maps - several maps showing the occurrence of various linguistic features.
Re: Resources Thread
Besides, most of their maps just look like cleaned-up copies of WALS’s ones.Risla wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:50 pmSome of the data seems questionable—e.g. Malagasy is listed as a language that doesn't mark tense, but it definitely does (on its verbs as well as its demonstratives!). They also keep referring to Aymara as 'Ayamara'.alice wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:32 am https://linguisticmaps.tumblr.com/tagge ... istic-maps - several maps showing the occurrence of various linguistic features.
Conlangs: Scratchpad | Texts | antilanguage
Software: See http://bradrn.com/projects.html
Other: Ergativity for Novices
(Why does phpBB not let me add >5 links here?)
Software: See http://bradrn.com/projects.html
Other: Ergativity for Novices
(Why does phpBB not let me add >5 links here?)
Re: Resources Thread
Brought to you bearing alice's Iinfallible Mark Of Quality™. Never knowingly compromised.
Self-referential signatures are for people too boring to come up with more interesting alternatives.
Re: Resources Thread
Just found this webpage with lots of stuff on Nuristani languages:
http://nuristan.info/lngFrameL.html
Lots of links are dead, but its a nice resource nonetheless.
Edit: the more general web page index is here: http://nuristan.info/index.html#TOP.
http://nuristan.info/lngFrameL.html
Lots of links are dead, but its a nice resource nonetheless.
Edit: the more general web page index is here: http://nuristan.info/index.html#TOP.
Re: Resources Thread
Yes, that is Richard Strand's page. I once managed to (inadvertently) piss him off by writing (almost all of) this as part of my job at the time.
Re: Resources Thread
Is it me or is the door to the fun house shut?Here's the Grammar Pile: https://mega.nz/#F!x4VG3DRL!lqecF4q2ywojGLE0O8cu4A
Re: Resources Thread
Same for meRaholeun wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:51 amIs it me or is the door to the fun house shut?Here's the Grammar Pile: https://mega.nz/#F!x4VG3DRL!lqecF4q2ywojGLE0O8cu4A
Re: Resources Thread
I discovered the Glottobank via Martin Haspelmath's Researchgate page and thought it may interest others: https://glottobank.org/
-
- Posts: 1307
- Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:19 pm
Re: Resources Thread
And I have to ask, how is anything accessed? I don't see any online UI, or download links, or Github links or anything for Grambank and Phonobank...MacAnDàil wrote: ↑Fri Jan 20, 2023 7:51 am I discovered the Glottobank via Martin Haspelmath's Researchgate page and thought it may interest others: https://glottobank.org/
Re: Resources Thread
Good point. I can't even get my head around Lexibank: https://github.com/lexibank/lexibank-analysed/. THere is this I managed to get to, but they admit they excluded Continental Celtic which screws their model. https://language.cs.auckland.ac.nz/
- WeepingElf
- Posts: 1513
- Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:39 pm
- Location: Braunschweig, Germany
- Contact:
Re: Resources Thread
Ah, those notorious New Zealand computer scientists who think they can make a meaningful contribution to Indo-European historical linguistics, but what they propose is falsified nonsense based on glottochronology, a method proven not to work decades ago because it is based on an obviously false assumption, namely that the rate of lexicon replacement is constant across time and languages - just look at Icelandic vs. English.
... brought to you by the Weeping Elf
My conlang pages
My conlang pages
-
- Posts: 1746
- Joined: Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:12 am
Re: Resources Thread
IIRC, their idea was to look at the cognate retention of various languages as a percentage, and map this against their physical location to find a point of origin. Quelle surprise, Anatolian had the best cognate retention, with languages retaining fewer cognates as they fan out into the Atlantic margin or South Asia. Ignoring the fact that languages lose cognates at different rates could be a forgivable error, especially if the data set were large enough (it isn't). But the real frustration is that the possibility of an entirely unattested language on the Pontic steppe doesn't seem to have occurred to them, even though that's exactly the question they were trying to answer!
They apparently used a methematical model used to reverse engineer the spread path of a virus. And I guess it makes sense that when looking for the origin of an Ebola outbreak, you're not looking too closely at any place that has no reported cases of Ebola. It's more a game of "which of these Ebola-riddled villages got riddled first?" But even then, if you presented this as serious Bayesian inference at a computer science conference, people would laugh you out of the room for not considering the imperfections in the reported data. It seems like they figured when doing non-STEM, the first thing you have to do is turn your brain off, because if you had a working brain, you'd be good enough for STEM.
They apparently used a methematical model used to reverse engineer the spread path of a virus. And I guess it makes sense that when looking for the origin of an Ebola outbreak, you're not looking too closely at any place that has no reported cases of Ebola. It's more a game of "which of these Ebola-riddled villages got riddled first?" But even then, if you presented this as serious Bayesian inference at a computer science conference, people would laugh you out of the room for not considering the imperfections in the reported data. It seems like they figured when doing non-STEM, the first thing you have to do is turn your brain off, because if you had a working brain, you'd be good enough for STEM.
I did it. I made the world's worst book review blog.