Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

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bradrn
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This looks vaguely Papuan, so here’s a ‘typewriter-style’ orthography (which may or may not work depending on your font):

/p b ⁿb β m/ ⟨p b mb ƀ m⟩
/t d ⁿd ð n/ ⟨t d nd đ n⟩
/c ɟ ⁿɟ ʝ ɲ/ ⟨c j nj y ñ⟩
/k g ⁿg ɣ ŋ/ ⟨k g ng ǥ ŋ⟩
/θ s ʔ h l r/ ⟨ŧ s ˀ h l r⟩

/a e ɤ o i u/ ⟨a e õ o i u⟩
/ã ẽ ɤ̃ õ/ ⟨ą ę ǫ̃ ǫ⟩
[ə] is left unwritten.

And here’s how the sample text looks on my computer (with the appropriate font features and some slight editing to get the glottal stop right):

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^ that's a lot like what I was planning to do

/p b ⁿb β m/ <p b b̠ ƀ m>
/t d ⁿd ð n/ <t d d̠ đ n>
/c ɟ ⁿɟ ʝ ɲ/ <c j ȷ̄ y ñ>
/k g ⁿg ɣ ŋ/ <k g ḡ ǥ ŋ>
/θ s ʔ h l r/ <ś s ˀ h l r>

/a e ɤ o i u/ <a e ö o i u>
/ã ẽ ɤ̃ õ/ <ã ẽ ũ õ>

mar e bədad iθu ⁿdəmɲu βətuɣ səmaŋ ku mɤð. do ɣod kəθʝub e doɣ e bɤɣ βəsʝe kɤr ɣəðam meʝ e ʝeʔ ʔəhɤr. rãβ ɣəðam səmɣun an hərmərɤʝ, a ⁿguð e ʝəman an kɤm. ʝəman ʝɤr an hɤr ŋəleŋ kãtuŋ, e ɣom ʔəɣãð ðam lõ an səmɣun duɣ.
Mar e bdad iśu d̠mñu ƀtuǥ smaŋ ku möđ. Do ǥod kśyub e doǥ e bəǥ ƀsye kör ǥđam mey e yeˀ ˀhör. Rãƀ ǥđam smǥun an hrmröy, a ḡuđ e yman an köm. Yman yör an hör ŋleŋ kãtuŋ, e ǥom ˀǥãđ đam lõ an smǥun duǥ.

but there are too many characters I can't type easily, so in practice

/p b ⁿb β m/ <p b b̠ w m>
/t d ⁿd ð n/ <t d d̠ x n>
/c ɟ ⁿɟ ʝ ɲ/ <c j j̄ y ñ>
/k g ⁿg ɣ ŋ/ <k g ḡ v ŋ>
/θ s ʔ h l r/ <ś s q h l r>
/ɤ/ <œ>

Mar e bdad iśu d̠mñu wtuv smaŋ ku mœx. Do vod kśyub e dov e bœv wsye kœr vxam mey e yeq qhœr. Rãw vxam smvun an hrmrœy, a ḡux e yman an kœm. Yman yœr an hœr ŋleŋ kãtuŋ, e vom qvãx xam lõ an smvun duv.
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Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

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An ASCIIfied (well, Latin-1-ified) orthography:

/p b ⁿb β m/ ⟨p b mb v m⟩
/t d ⁿd ð n/ ⟨t d nd z n⟩
/c ɟ ⁿɟ ʝ ɲ/ ⟨c j nj y ñ⟩
/k g ⁿg ɣ ŋ/ ⟨k q nq w g⟩
/θ s ʔ h l r/ ⟨ç s x h l r⟩

/a e ɤ o i u/ ⟨a e õ o i u⟩
/ã ẽ ɤ̃ õ/ ⟨ã ẽ ũ õ⟩

Mar e bdad içu ndmñu vtuw smag ku möz. Do wod kçyub e dow e böw vsye kör wzam mey e yex xhör. Rãv wzam smwun an hrmröy, a nquz e yman an köm. Yman yör an hör gleg kãtug, e wom xwãz zam lõ an smwun duw.

Though in practise my keyboard actually makes it easiest to type your original orthography.

But, in fact, my favourite orthography is probably this:

/p b ⁿb β m/ ⟨p b mb w m⟩
/t d ⁿd ð n/ ⟨t d nd ð n⟩
/c ɟ ⁿɟ ʝ ɲ/ ⟨c j nj y ñ⟩
/k g ⁿg ɣ ŋ/ ⟨k g ng ɣ ŋ⟩
/θ s ʔ h l r/ ⟨ç s ɂ h l r⟩

/a e ɤ o i u/ ⟨a e õ o i u⟩
/ã ẽ ɤ̃ õ/ ⟨ą ę ǫ̃ ǫ⟩

Mar e bdad içu ndmñu wtuɣ sm ku mõð. Do ɣod e bõɣ wsye kõr ɣðam mey e yeɂ ɂhor. Rąw ɣðam smɣun an hrmrõy, a nguð e yman an kõm. Yman yõr an hõr ŋleŋ kątuŋ, e ɣom ɂɣąð ðam lǫ an smɣun duɣ.
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could be conservative about it: /t ð/ <t 't> word-initially and <hd t> otherwise, and word-initial /β ɣ/ <v x>; also /c s θ ɤ/ <ky c s au> (not diachronically right but good enough)

mar e bədad iθu ⁿdəmɲu βətuɣ səmaŋ ku mɤð. do ɣod kəθʝub e doɣ e bɤɣ βəsʝe kɤr ɣəðam meʝ e ʝeʔ ʔəhɤr. rãβ ɣəðam səmɣun an hərmərɤʝ, a ⁿguð e ʝəman an kɤm. ʝəman ʝɤr an hɤr ŋəleŋ kãtuŋ, e ɣom ʔəɣãð ðam lõ an səmɣun duɣ.
Mar e badad isu ndamnyu vahduk samang ku maut. Do xod kasyub e dok e bauk vacye kaur xatam mey e yeq ahaur. Rãp xatam samxun an harmarauy, a nkut e yaman an kaum. Yaman yaur an haur ngaleng kãhdung, e xom qakãt 'tam lõ an samxun duk.

or
/p b ⁿb β m/ ⟨p/pp b mb w/p m⟩
/t d ⁿd ð n/ ⟨t/tt d nd t'/t n⟩
/c ɟ ⁿɟ ʝ ɲ/ ⟨ky/kky j nj y ñ⟩
/k g ⁿg ɣ ŋ/ ⟨k/kk g nk x/k q⟩
/θ s ʔ h l r/ ⟨z s c h l r⟩

/a e ɤ o i u/ ⟨a e au o i u⟩
/ã ẽ ɤ̃ õ/ ⟨av ev uv ov⟩

Mar e bdad izu ndmñu vttuk smang ku maut. Do xod kzyub e dok e bauk vsye kaur xtam mey e yec chaur. Ravp xtam smkun an hrmrauy, a nkut e yman an kaum. Yman yaur an haur qleq kavttuq, e xom ckavt t'am lov an smkun duk.
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/p b ⁿb β m/ <p b mb v m>
/t d ⁿd ð n/ <t d nd z n>
/c ɟ ⁿɟ ʝ ɲ/ <c j nj y ny>
/k g ⁿg ɣ ŋ/ <k g nk q ng>
/θ s ʔ h l r/ <th s ' h l r>

/a e ɤ o i u/ <a ê e o i u>
/ã ẽ ɤ̃ õ/ <an in en on>
[ə] (in unstressed syllables, epenthetic)

mar e bədad iθu ⁿdəmɲu βətuɣ səmaŋ ku mɤð. do ɣod kəθʝub e doɣ e bɤɣ βəsʝe kɤr ɣəðam meʝ e ʝeʔ ʔəhɤr. rãβ ɣəðam səmɣun an hərmərɤʝ, a ⁿguð e ʝəman an kɤm. ʝəman ʝɤr an hɤr ŋəleŋ kãtuŋ, e ɣom ʔəɣãð ðam lõ an səmɣun duɣ.
Mar ê bedad ithu ndemnyu vetuq semang ku mez. Do qod kethyub ê doq ê beq vesyê ker qezam mêy ê yê' 'eher. Ranv qezam semqun an hermerey, a nguz ê yeman an kem. Yeman yer an her ngelêng kantung, e qom 'eqanz zam lon a'n semqun duq.
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/p b ⁿb β m/ <p b mb w m>
/t d ⁿd ð n/ <t d nd dh n>
/c ɟ ⁿɟ ʝ ɲ/ <c j nj y ny>
/k g ⁿg ɣ ŋ/ <k g nk gh ng>
/θ s ʔ h l r/ <th s ' h l r>

/a e ɤ o i ə u/ <a é e o i e u>
/ã ẽ ɤ̃ õ/ <ã ĩ ẽ ũ>

/mar e bədad iθu ⁿdəmɲu βətuɣ səmaŋ ku mɤð. do ɣod kəθʝub e doɣ e bɤɣ βəsʝe kɤr ɣəðam meʝ e ʝeʔ ʔəhɤr. rãβ ɣəðam səmɣun an hərmərɤʝ, a ⁿguð e ʝəman an kɤm. ʝəman ʝɤr an hɤr ŋəleŋ kãtuŋ, e ɣom ʔəɣãð ðam lõ an səmɣun duɣ/
Mar é bedad ithu ndemnyu wetugh semang ku medh. Do ghod kethyub é dogh é begh wesyai ker ghedham méy é yé' eher. Rãw ghedham semghun an hermerey, a nkudh é yeman an kem. Yeman yer an her ngeléng kãtung, e ghom eghãdh dham lũ an semghun dugh.

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Komnzo

/ⁿb t ⁿd ts ⁿdz k ⁿg kʷ ⁿgʷ/
/m n ŋ/
/ɸ ð s/
/r j w/
/æ a e œ ɔ i y u/

/tsaɸøwæ ɸðə kaⁿbe keke kʷot tyɸr ðɸrærm. ðwamⁿdzrm tsane kaɸar ⁿbaⁿden ðə ts kaⁿbe enrera. næ kaⁿbe ðɸamⁿdzrm, moⁿgarkamen, kar nima ræ, moⁿgarkam. næ ɸæ ɸeɸe ðwamⁿdzrm mænwæ kar ⁿbramøwæ eræ. ɸirra mrmren, mane tsɸrærm, ⁿdzyrna ŋare ⁿboⁿbo tswamⁿdzrm. ⁿdzyrna ŋare naɸaɸisrwæ ðɸrnm./
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Nortaneous wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:37 pm Komnzo
Ah yes, one of my favourite languages! I see we’re not considering the epenthetic vowels today.

/ⁿb t ⁿd ts ⁿdz k ⁿg kʷ ⁿgʷ/ ⟨b t d c j k g kw gw⟩
/m n ŋ/ ⟨m n ŋ⟩
/ɸ ð s/ ⟨f z s⟩
/r j w/ ⟨r y w⟩
/æ a e œ ɔ i y u/ ⟨ä a e ö o i ü u⟩

+ marginal word-final /ə/ ⟨ë⟩

/tsaɸøwæ ɸðə kaⁿbe keke kʷot tyɸr ðɸrærm. ðwamⁿdzrm tsane kaɸar ⁿbaⁿden ðə ts kaⁿbe enrera. næ kaⁿbe ðɸamⁿdzrm, moⁿgarkamen, kar nima ræ, moⁿgarkam. næ ɸæ ɸeɸe ðwamⁿdzrm mænwæ kar ⁿbramøwæ eræ. ɸirra mrmren, mane tsɸrærm, ⁿdzyrna ŋare ⁿboⁿbo tswamⁿdzrm. ⁿdzyrna ŋare naɸaɸisrwæ ðɸrnm./

Caföwä fzë kabe lele kwot tüfr zfrärm. Zwamjrm cane kafar baden zë c kabe enrera. Nä kabe zfamjrm, mogarkamenm kar nima rä, mogarkam. Nä fä fefe zwamjrm mänwä kar bramöwä erä. Firra mrmren, mane cfrärm, jürna ŋare bobo cwamjrm. Jürna ŋare nafafisrwä zfrnm.


Though I feel more comfortable with an orthography where the epenthesis is explicitly written:

/æ a e œ ə ɔ i y u/ ⟨ä a é ö e o i ü u⟩

e.g. /kʷaɾə̆k janðuᵑɡwə̆ɾ tswæɸijɔkwə̆ sə̆kɾiɸtseⁿts/ kwarek yanzugwer cwäfiyokwe sekrifcéj (vs. kwark janzugwr cwäfijokwë skrifcej), though I don’t feel confident enough to figure out the epenthetic vowels for the whole text above.
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swamp conventions, kinda

/ⁿb t ⁿd ts ⁿdz k ⁿg kʷ ⁿgʷ/ <b t d j z k g q fh>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ñ>
/ɸ ð s/ <p c s>
/r j w/ <r y f>
/æ a e œ ɔ i y u/ <x a e v o i w u> + /ə/ <vh>

/tsaɸøwæ ɸðə kaⁿbe keke kʷot tyɸr ðɸrærm. ðwamⁿdzrm tsane kaɸar ⁿbaⁿden ðə ts kaⁿbe enrera. næ kaⁿbe ðɸamⁿdzrm, moⁿgarkamen, kar nima ræ, moⁿgarkam. næ ɸæ ɸeɸe ðwamⁿdzrm mænwæ kar ⁿbramøwæ eræ. ɸirra mrmren, mane tsɸrærm, ⁿdzyrna ŋare ⁿboⁿbo tswamⁿdzrm. ⁿdzyrna ŋare naɸaɸisrwæ ðɸrnm./

Japvfx pcvh kabe keke qot twpr cprxrm. Cfamzrm jane kapar baden cvh j kabe enrera. Nx kabe cpamzrm, mogarkamen, kar nima rx, mogarkam, nx px pepe cfamzrm mxnfx kar bramvfx erx. Pirra mrmren, mane jprxrm, zwrna ñare bobo jfamzrm. Zwrna ñare napapisrfx cprnm.
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/ⁿb t ⁿd ts ⁿdz k ⁿg kʷ ⁿgʷ/ <mb t nd c nj k ng q nq>
/m n ŋ/ <m n nh>
/ɸ ð s/ <f th s>
/r j w/ <r y w>
/æ a e œ ɔ i y u/ <ai a e oi o i ui u>
[ə] <â>

/tsaɸøwæ ɸðə kaⁿbe keke kʷot tyɸr ðɸrærm. ðwamⁿdzrm tsane kaɸar ⁿbaⁿden ðə ts kaⁿbe enrera. næ kaⁿbe ðɸamⁿdzrm, moⁿgarkamen, kar nima ræ, moⁿgarkam. næ ɸæ ɸeɸe ðwamⁿdzrm mænwæ kar ⁿbramøwæ eræ. ɸirra mrmren, mane tsɸrærm, ⁿdzyrna ŋare ⁿboⁿbo tswamⁿdzrm. ⁿdzyrna ŋare naɸaɸisrwæ ðɸrnm./
Cafoiwai fthâ kambe keke qot tuifr thfrairm. Thwamnjrm cane kafar mbanden thâ c kambe enrera. Nai kambe thfamnjrm, mongarkamen, kar nima rai, mongarkam. Nai fai fefe thwamnjrm mainwai kar mbramoiwai erai. Firra mrmren, mane cfrairm, njuirna nhare mbombo cwamnjrm. Njuirna nhara nafafisrwai thfrnm.
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let's put alt-English here too, after changing the fruit to be less transparent

/p b t d tʃ dʒ k g/
/f v θ ð s z ʃ (ʒ) x~h/
/m n l r j w/

/ɑ ɛ ɔ ɪ ʏ ʊ/
/æː ɛː ɔː eː øː ɤː oː iː yː uː/
/ai ay au ei øy eu (ɤi) ɤu/

in unstressed syllables, /ə ɪ ʊ/

/tʃʊ-ˈbɔx pæː jəstˈrøy plɑnts fuːl i vərˈwɛn ə-ʃə-ˈzwɪlt ɪð jɔːrd ɛlz ðə ˈvuːrɪ ɔːs dʏd | əx jɔːld ə-ˈnɪl ən ɪð ˈhærʊs tʃəl-ˈau ˈstreubrɪ/

kju bǫh pá jastrøy plants fhúl í feruen a sja suilt ið jǫ́rð els þa fúri ǫ́s dyd, ah jǫ́ld a nil an ið hárus kjal au streubri
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as English, sort of (I tried)

/p b t d tʃ dʒ k g/ <p b t d ch j k g>
/f v θ ð s z ʃ (ʒ) x~h/ <f v th th s s sh gh~h>
/m n l r j w/ <m n l r y w>

/ɑ ɛ ɔ ɪ ʏ ʊ/ <ah~a eh~e oh~o i öö oo>
/æː ɛː ɔː eː øː ɤː oː iː yː uː/ <a~ar air aw ae ö er oe ee~e ue oo>
/ai ay au ei øy eu (ɤi) ɤu/ <i öw ow ay äw ou (i) o>

in unstressed syllables, /ə ɪ ʊ/ <e i~y u>

The short vowels are written as <ah eh oh> in open syllables. Unstressed /ɪ/ is written <y> word-finally.

/tʃʊ-ˈbɔx pæː jəstˈrøy plɑnts fuːl i vərˈwɛn ə-ʃə-ˈzwɪlt ɪð jɔːrd ɛlz ðə ˈvuːrɪ ɔːs dʏd | əx jɔːld ə-ˈnɪl ən ɪð ˈhærʊs tʃəl-ˈau ˈstreubrɪ/
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(I won’t even try to write this in a historical orthography.)

/p b t d tʃ dʒ k g/ ⟨p b t d c j k g⟩
/f v θ ð s z ʃ (ʒ) x~h/ ⟨f v th dh s z sh zh h⟩
/m n l r j w/ ⟨m n l r y w⟩

/ɑ ɛ ɔ ɪ ʏ ʊ/ ⟨a e o i ü u⟩
/æː ɛː ɔː eː øː ɤː oː iː yː uː/ ⟨ā ē ō é ý á ó ī ȳ ū⟩
/ai ay au ei øy eu (ɤi) ɤu/ ⟨ai aü au ei oü eu (ái) áu⟩
+ /ə ɪ ʊ/ ⟨e i u⟩

/tʃʊ-ˈbɔx pæː jəstˈrøy plɑnts fuːl i vərˈwɛn ə-ʃə-ˈzwɪlt ɪð jɔːrd ɛlz ðə ˈvuːrɪ ɔːs dʏd | əx jɔːld ə-ˈnɪl ən ɪð ˈhærʊs tʃəl-ˈau ˈstreubrɪ/

Cuboh pā yestroü plants fūl i verwen eshezwilt idh yōrd elz dhe vūri ōs düd, eh yōld enil en idh harus celau streubri.
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let's do another Gandrip language

Plains Gandrip of Tor-ywul

/p t t͡r t͡ɬ t͡s t͡ʂ c k ʔ/
/b d d͡r d͡ɮ d͡z d͡ʐ ɟ ɡ/
/m n ɳ ɲ ŋ/
/r̥ r/
/ɸ s ʂ ɕ x/
/β z ʐ ʑ ɣ/
/w l ɻ j/

/i y u e ø o a/

/t͡raɡat͡ɬad͡ɮ rtaɳ xøt͡rut͡ɬo || xøt͡ryt͡r t͡rat͡ʂ t͡rat͡ɬo xøt͡rut͡ɬal nort͡ɬal || marʔd͡ɮen xort͡raɡaβyr ɳat͡raɳ ʔato || apd͡ʐaŋt͡ʂi riŋne || xornanʔt͡ri kar t͡raɡat͡ɬal cuŋʔne || βunyr trald͡ɮo/
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Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
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Plains Gandrip of Tor-ywul

/p t t͡r t͡ɬ t͡s t͡ʂ c k ʔ/ ⟨p t tr tl ts tš c k q⟩
/b d d͡r d͡ɮ d͡z d͡ʐ ɟ ɡ/ ⟨b d dr dl dz dž j g⟩
/m n ɳ ɲ ŋ/ ⟨m n ň ń ŋ⟩
/r/ ⟨r⟩
/ɸ s ʂ ɕ x/ ⟨f s š ś x⟩
/β z ʐ ʑ ɣ/ ⟨v z ž ź h⟩
/w l ɻ j/ ⟨w l rr y⟩

/i y u e ø o a/ ⟨i ü u e ö o a⟩

/t͡raɡat͡ɬad͡ɮ rtaɳ xøt͡rut͡ɬo || xøt͡ryt͡r t͡rat͡ʂ t͡rat͡ɬo xøt͡rut͡ɬal nort͡ɬal || marʔd͡ɮen xort͡raɡaβyr ɳat͡raɳ ʔato || apd͡ʐaŋt͡ʂi riŋne || xornanʔt͡ri kar t͡raɡat͡ɬal cuŋʔne || βunyr trald͡ɮo/

Tragatladl rtaň xötrutlo. Xötrütr tratš tratlo xötrutlal nortlal. Marqdlen xortragavür ňatraň qato. Apdžaŋtši riŋne. Xornanqtri kar tragatlal cuŋqne. Vunür traldlo.
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Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

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here's what I'm using:

/p t t͡r t͡ɬ t͡s t͡ʂ c k ʔ/ <p t tr lh ts th q k '>
/b d d͡r d͡ɮ d͡z d͡ʐ ɟ ɡ/ <b d dr dl dz dh j g>
/m n ɳ ɲ ŋ/ <m n nh ny ng>
/r̥ r/ <rh r>
/ɸ s ʂ ɕ x/ <f s sh x kh>
/β z ʐ ʑ ɣ/ <v z zh y gh>
/w l ɻ j/ <w l rhr y>

/i y u e ø o a/ <i ü u e ö o a>

/t͡raɡat͡ɬad͡ɮ rtaɳ xøt͡rut͡ɬo || xøt͡ryt͡r t͡rat͡ʂ t͡rat͡ɬo xøt͡rut͡ɬal nort͡ɬal || marʔd͡ɮen xort͡raɡaβyr ɳat͡raɳ ʔato || apd͡ʐaŋt͡ʂi riŋne || xornanʔt͡ri kar t͡raɡat͡ɬal cuŋʔne || βunyr trald͡ɮo/
Tragalhadl rtanh khötrulho. Khötrütr trath tralho khötrulhal norlhal. Mar'dlen khortragavür nhatranh 'ato. Apdhangthi ringne. Khornan'tri kar tragalhal qung'ne. Vunür traldlo.
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
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Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

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Karch wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:39 pm let's do another Gandrip language

Plains Gandrip of Tor-ywul
Here's an... attempt.

/p t t͡r t͡ɬ t͡s t͡ʂ c k ʔ/ p t tr tl ts tsr kj k '
/b d d͡r d͡ɮ d͡z d͡ʐ ɟ ɡ/ b d dr dl dz dzr gj
/m n ɳ ɲ ŋ/ m n nj nr ng
/r̥ r/ rh r
/ɸ s ʂ ɕ x/ f s sr sh h
/β z ʐ ʑ ɣ/ v z zr zh gh
/w l ɻ j/ w l rz j

/i y u e ø o a/ i u ou e eu o a

/t͡raɡat͡ɬad͡ɮ rtaɳ xøt͡rut͡ɬo || xøt͡ryt͡r t͡rat͡ʂ t͡rat͡ɬo xøt͡rut͡ɬal nort͡ɬal || marʔd͡ɮen xort͡raɡaβyr ɳat͡raɳ ʔato || apd͡ʐaŋt͡ʂi riŋne || xornanʔt͡ri kar t͡raɡat͡ɬal cuŋʔne || βunyr trald͡ɮo/
Tragatladl rtanr heutroutlo. Heutrutr tratsr tratlo heutroutlal nortlal. Mar'dlen hortragavur nratranr 'ato. Apdzrangtsri ringne. Hornan'tri kar tragatlal kjoung'ne. Vounur traldlo.
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/p t t͡r t͡ɬ t͡s t͡ʂ c k ʔ/ <p t ṭ ł c c̣ k `>
/b d d͡r d͡ɮ d͡z d͡ʐ ɟ ɡ/ <b d ḍ ḷ ʒ ʒ̇ j g>
/m n ɳ ɲ ŋ/ <m n ṇ ñ ŋ>
/r̥ r/ <ř r>
/ɸ s ʂ ɕ x/ <f s ṣ š h>
/β z ʐ ʑ ɣ/ <v z ẓ ž x>
/w l ɻ j/ <w l ṛ y>

/i y u e ø o a/ <i ü u e ö o a>

/t͡raɡat͡ɬad͡ɮ rtaɳ xøt͡rut͡ɬo || xøt͡ryt͡r t͡rat͡ʂ t͡rat͡ɬo xøt͡rut͡ɬal nort͡ɬal || marʔd͡ɮen xort͡raɡaβyr ɳat͡raɳ ʔato || apd͡ʐaŋt͡ʂi riŋne || xornanʔt͡ri kar t͡raɡat͡ɬal cuŋʔne || βunyr trald͡ɮo/

Ṭagałaḷ rtaṇ höṭuło. Höṭuṭ ṭač ṭało höṭułal norłal. Màrḷen horṭagavür ṇaṭaṇ áto. Apdzaŋči riŋne. Hornànṭi kar ṭagałal cùŋne. Vunür ṭalḷo.
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
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/p t k q~ʡ/
/b~β~ɸ~ɓ d~l~ɗ/
/s (ʂ) χ~ħ/
/z~j ɻ ʁ~ʕ/
/m n ŋ/

/i ɯ u e o æ ɔ ɑ/
/əi əu əɯ iə uə ɯə/
/é ê è ě/

There is a non-phonemic epenthetic schwa. Syllables may contain an arbitrary number of onset consonants, precisely one vowel, and at most one final consonant, which is one of /b d ʁ/. In this position, these consonants may also be realised, respectively, as [w j Vˤ].

Aspiration is not phonemic; generally, voiceless consonants are aspirated in clusters.

The voiceless retroflex fricative [ʂ] is only marginally phonemic; usually, it is an allophone of /ɻ/, but for some speakers there are morphologically significant minimal pairs.

There is one tone per word; this tone is always realized on the final vowel of the word. All other vowels, even if they are morphophonologically tone bearing, are realized as toneless.

[tʰəmkəˤkɔ́ˤ zdəpá lkəmjæ̂w | lʡʊ́j nʕɔˤβæ̀ ndəzô mjɑ̀ˤ zó
mɑˤjò zdæɸséj stɑˤkʰə̥ɗɔ̂ˤ | n ziŋbɑ̀ zdæ̌ məstʰpǔ ħtɑβó
nʕɪ̀j ŋpʂəkó ɻɑ̂β ħnəŋmɑ́ ŋjæ̌ | məˤtʰħɪˤlɔ́ ʡʰħɑ̂ ʡʰmjɑ̌ ʡəndæ̌
ɔ́ məskɑ̌ mʡɑ̌w sħəkʰtʰɓɯ̂ mé | tʰkʰətʰɗəˤmælɔ̀w mħɔpɑ̂ lkǽ]
Mbtrtcgf qxah bdej bkska kidabh n ñstbwdj spa.
Ogñwdf n spa bdej bruoh kiñabh ñbtzmieb n qxah.
Qiegf. Qiegf. Qiegf. Qiegf. Qiegf. Qiegf. Qiegf.
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as Rau

/p t k q~ʡ/ <p t k q>
/b~β~ɸ~ɓ d~l~ɗ/ <b d>
/s (ʂ) χ~ħ/ <s (rr) h>
/z~j ɻ ʁ~ʕ/ <g z r>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ñ>

/i ɯ u e o æ ɔ ɑ/ <i u ou ê o e â a>
/əi əu əɯ iə uə ɯə/ <ui uo eu iu oa ua>
/é ê è ě/ <é e è ẻ>

[tʰəmkəˤkɔ́ˤ zdəpá lkəmjæ̂w | lʡʊ́j nʕɔˤβæ̀ ndəzô mjɑ̀ˤ zó
mɑˤjò zdæɸséj stɑˤkʰə̥ɗɔ̂ˤ | n ziŋbɑ̀ zdæ̌ məstʰpǔ ħtɑβó
nʕɪ̀j ŋpʂəkó ɻɑ̂β ħnəŋmɑ́ ŋjæ̌ | məˤtʰħɪˤlɔ́ ʡʰħɑ̂ ʡʰmjɑ̌ ʡəndæ̌
ɔ́ məskɑ̌ mʡɑ̌w sħəkʰtʰɓɯ̂ mé | tʰkʰətʰɗəˤmælɔ̀w mħɔpɑ̂ lkǽ]

Tumkurkấr gdupá lkumgeb, lqoúg nqârbè ndugó mgàr gó
Margò Gdebsếg starkudâr, n giñbà gdẻ mustpoủ htabó
Nrìg ñprukó zab hnuñmá ñgẻ, murthirlấ qha qmgả qundẻ
Ấ muskả mqảw shuktbou mế, tkutdurmelầb mhâpa lké
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K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
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/p t k q~ʡ/ <p t k q>
/b~β~ɸ~ɓ d~l~ɗ/ <b d~l>
/s (ʂ) χ~ħ/ <s x h>
/z~j ɻ ʁ~ʕ/ <z~y r g>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ñ>

/i ɯ u e o æ ɔ ɑ/ <i ï u e o ä ö a>
/əi əu əɯ iə uə ɯə/ <ei ou aï ie uo ïa>
/é ê è ě/ <e ê è é>

The non-phonemic schwa is written <e>. Tone is written on the last syllable of the word. [j] is written <y>, regardless of which phoneme it is.

[tʰəmkəˤkɔ́ˤ zdəpá lkəmjæ̂w | lʡʊ́j nʕɔˤβæ̀ ndəzô mjɑ̀ˤ zó
mɑˤjò zdæɸséj stɑˤkʰə̥ɗɔ̂ˤ | n ziŋbɑ̀ zdæ̌ məstʰpǔ ħtɑβó
nʕɪ̀j ŋpʂəkó ɻɑ̂β ħnəŋmɑ́ ŋjæ̌ | məˤtʰħɪˤlɔ́ ʡʰħɑ̂ ʡʰmjɑ̌ ʡəndæ̌
ɔ́ məskɑ̌ mʡɑ̌w sħəkʰtʰɓɯ̂ mé | tʰkʰətʰɗəˤmælɔ̀w mħɔpɑ̂ lkǽ]

Temkegkög zdepa lkemyä̂b, lquy ngöbä ndezô myàg zo
Magyò Zdäbsey stegkedö̂g, n ziñba zdä́ mestpú htabo
Ngìy ñpreko râb hneñma ñyä́, megthiglö̂ qhâ qmyá qendä́
Ö meská mqáb shektbï̂ me, tketdegmälö̀b mhöpâ lkä
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
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