Word evolution game

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foxcatdog
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*u fronts to *ɨ except after a labial meanwhile *o raises to *u except before or after a sonorant to fill its place

[n̩ lʲý sʲár ktsí tsý]
N lú syár ktsí tsú

[n̩ kɨ́ ɕárj mʲí sɑ̰́n]
N kóu kyárlu mí sáon

[u ftá vu tɑ́ nʲý]
O ftá vou táo nú

Compare it to what the poem would sound like in the intended development after 2000 Years through this is from another dialect.

[nɛ lý sɛ̃́n kʷu.tʲí tsý]
[nɛ kú kʲɛ̃́n.ʝu mʲi sṍn]
[o θý.ta ðú tɔ́ ný]
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Syllabic [n], and coda [r n] vocalise to [ɐ]

[ɐ lʲý sʲáɐ ktsí tsý]
N lú syár ktsí tsú

[ɐ kɨ́ ɕáɐj mʲí sɑ̰́ɐ]
N kóu kyárlu mí sáon

[u ftá vu tɑ́ nʲý]
O ftá vou táo nú
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ɕ > x

[ɐ lʲý sʲáɐ ktsí tsý]
N lú syár ktsí tsú

[ɐ kɨ́ xáɐj mʲí sɑ̰́ɐ]
N kóu kyárlu mí sáon

[u ftá vu tɑ́ nʲý]
O ftá vou táo nú
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Rounin Ryuuji
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Chain shift, [x k t ts s] > [k t ts s ʃ]

[ɐ lʲý ʃʲáɐ ksí sý]
N lú syár ktsí tsú

[ɐ tɨ́ káɐ mʲí ʃɑ̰́ɐ]
N kóu kyárlu mí sáon

[u ftsá vu tsɑ́ nʲý]
O ftá vou táo nú
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*ɐ coalesces into a preceding vowel lengthening it otherwise it becomes a schwa

[ə lʲý ʃʲá: ksí sý]
N lú syáá ktsí tsú

[ə tɨ́ ká: mʲí ʃɑ̰́:]
N kóu kyáá mí sáoon

[u ftsá vu tsɑ́ nʲý]
O ftá vou táo nú

Compare to the language after another 1000 years.

[nʲɛ lý sʲɛ̃́ ku.tʲí tsý]
[nʲɛ kú ɕẽ́.du mʲi sṍ]
[o ɬý.ta lú tɔ́ nʲý]
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Rising pitch on long vowels becomes rising-falling pitch:

[ə lʲý ʃʲâ: ksí sý]
N lú syâ ktsí tsú

[ə tɨ́ kâ: mʲí ʃɑ̰̂:]
N kóu kyâ mí sâon

[u ftsá vu tsɑ́ nʲý]
O ftá vou táo nú
[nʲɛ lý sʲɛ̃́ ku.tʲí tsý]
[nʲɛ kú ɕẽ́.du mʲi sṍ]
[o ɬý.ta lú tɔ́ nʲý]
Some words are still quite similar, while some are radically different.
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Rounin suggest a word. I don't think i've ever seen you suggest one in this thread.
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So soon?

Also, Rounin is a descriptor, Ryuuji is actually the name.
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A prerequisite IMO to switching to a new word or phrase is beating to death the one before it (e.g. reducing a large polysyllabic word to a single vowel), whereas the originals here are still pretty recognizable from their current forms.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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I rather like what we're working with now, too.

Now back on topic; [ʃʲ] > [ç]:

[ə lʲý çâ: ksí sý]
N lú syâ ktsí tsú

[ə tɨ́ kâ: mʲí ʃɑ̰̂:]
N kóu kyâ mí sâon

[u ftsá vu tsɑ́ nʲý]
O ftá vou táo nú
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Okay then. Do remember to suggest one when you're done.

Chain shift of *ʃ > *s > *θ
[ə lʲý çâ: kθí θý]
N lú syâ ktsí tsú

[ə tɨ́ kâ: mʲí sɑ̰̂:]
N kóu kyâ mí sâon

[u ftsá vu tsɑ́ nʲý]
O ftá vou táo nú
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foxcatdog wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:58 pm Chain shift of *ʃ > *s > *θ
I don't think that's how chain shifts work.

Anyway, vowel chain shift [ə ɨ i y a ɑ u] > [i i e ø ɑ ɔ i]

[i lʲǿ çɑ̂: kθé θǿ]
N lú syâ ktsí tsú

[i tí kɑ̂: mʲé sɔ̰̂:]
N kóu kyâ mí sâon

[i ftsɑ́ vi tsɔ́ nʲǿ]
O ftá vou táo nú
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Rounin Ryuuji wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:57 pm
foxcatdog wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:58 pm Chain shift of *ʃ > *s > *θ
I don't think that's how chain shifts work.

Anyway, vowel chain shift [ə ɨ i y a ɑ u] > [i i e ø ɑ ɔ i]

[i lʲǿ çɑ̂: kθé θǿ]
N lú syâ ktsí tsú

[i tí kɑ̂: mʲé sɔ̰̂:]
N kóu kyâ mí sâon

[i ftsɑ́ vi tsɔ́ nʲǿ]
O ftá vou táo nú
The chain shift is based of Uralic. But i just write it that way because its convenient.

*kθ > *x followed by a spelling reform

[i lʲǿ çɑ̂: xé θǿ]
I lö hyâ kthe thö

[i tí kɑ̂: mʲé sɔ̰̂:]
I ti kâ mye sộn

[i ftsɑ́ vi tsɔ́ nʲǿ]
I fcá vi cọ nyö
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Palatalisation: [lʲ mʲ nʲ] > [ʎ ɲ ɲ] —

[i ʎǿ çɑ̂: xé θǿ]
I lyö hyâ he thö

[i tí kɑ̂: ɲé sɔ̰̂:]
I ti kâ nye sộn

[i ftsɑ́ vi tsɔ́ ɲǿ]
I ftsá vi tsọ nyö
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Creaky voice shifts to glottalisation of the preceding consonant

[i ʎǿ çɑ̂ː xé θǿ]
I lyö hyâ he thö

[i tí kɑ̂ː ɲé sʼɔ̂ː]
I ti kâ nye sộn

[i ftsɑ́ vi tsɔ́ ɲǿ]
I ftsá vi tsọ nyö
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Darren wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:36 am Creaky voice shifts to glottalisation of the preceding consonant

[i ʎǿ çɑ̂ː xé θǿ]
I lyö hyâ he thö

[i tí kɑ̂ː ɲé sʼɔ̂ː]
I ti kâ nye sộn

[i ftsɑ́ vi tsɔ́ ɲǿ]
I ftsá vi tsọ nyö
That tilde represents Nasalisation. The users of this forum thought it was more convenient to be on the bottom of the word.
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foxcatdog wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:40 am
Darren wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:36 am Creaky voice shifts to glottalisation of the preceding consonant

[i ʎǿ çɑ̂ː xé θǿ]
I lyö hyâ he thö

[i tí kɑ̂ː ɲé sʼɔ̂ː]
I ti kâ nye sộn

[i ftsɑ́ vi tsɔ́ ɲǿ]
I ftsá vi tsọ nyö
That tilde represents Nasalisation. The users of this forum thought it was more convenient to be on the bottom of the word.
Ah righto. Scratch that change then.
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[fC] > [xC]

[i ʎǿ çɑ̂: xé θǿ]
I lyö hyâ he thö

[i tí kɑ̂: ɲé sɔ̰̂:]
I ti kâ nye sộn

[i xtsɑ́ vi tsɔ́ ɲǿ]
I htsá vi tsọ nyö
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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ɲ → j / _V[+front]

[i ʎǿ çɑ̂: xé θǿ]
I lyö hyâ he thö

[i tí kɑ̂: jé sɔ̰̂:]
I ti kâ ye sộn

[i xtsɑ́ vi tsɔ́ jǿ]
I htsá vi tsọ yö
/j/ <j>

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Loɂ ɂerleku asəɂulŋusikraɂə seləɂahina əɂətlahɂun əiŋɂiɂŋa.
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Re: Word evolution game

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[ʎ j] > [ʑ]

[i ʑǿ çɑ̂: xé θǿ]
I lyö hyâ he thö

[i tí kɑ̂: ʑé sɔ̰̂:]
I ti kâ ye sộn

[i xtsɑ́ vi tsɔ́ ʑǿ]
I htsá vi tsọ yö
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