Word evolution game
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Re: Word evolution game
Prenasalisation resolves into extrasyllabic vowels ([n m] > [ɐ ʊ]) before voiceless stops:
[ⁿdɔ̃:˩˧] - dóahn
[ɐt͡ski˧] - atski
[nɪrja˥] - niryá
[tno˧] - tno
[ɪpʰã:˧] - ipahn
[ɬʃi˧] - lhshi
[ɬsɒ:˧] - lhsaoh
[ⁿdɔ:j˩] - dòaih
[ʊptã˧] - uptan
[nʲt͡sʲi:˥] - nhtsíh
[ⁿdɔ̃:˩˧] - dóahn
[ɐt͡ski˧] - atski
[nɪrja˥] - niryá
[tno˧] - tno
[ɪpʰã:˧] - ipahn
[ɬʃi˧] - lhshi
[ɬsɒ:˧] - lhsaoh
[ⁿdɔ:j˩] - dòaih
[ʊptã˧] - uptan
[nʲt͡sʲi:˥] - nhtsíh
Re: Word evolution game
Addition of a prosthetic glottal stop before initial vowels.
[ⁿdɔ̃:˩˧] - dóahn
[ʔɐt͡ski˧] - atski
[nɪrja˥] - niryá
[tno˧] - tno
[ʔɪpʰã:˧] - ipahn
[ɬʃi˧] - lhshi
[ɬsɒ:˧] - lhsaoh
[ⁿdɔ:j˩] - dòaih
[ʔʊptã˧] - uptan
[nʲt͡sʲi:˥] - nhtsíh
[ⁿdɔ̃:˩˧] - dóahn
[ʔɐt͡ski˧] - atski
[nɪrja˥] - niryá
[tno˧] - tno
[ʔɪpʰã:˧] - ipahn
[ɬʃi˧] - lhshi
[ɬsɒ:˧] - lhsaoh
[ⁿdɔ:j˩] - dòaih
[ʔʊptã˧] - uptan
[nʲt͡sʲi:˥] - nhtsíh
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Re: Word evolution game
Stops lenite to fricatives in clusters
[ⁿdɔ̃:˩˧] - dóahn
[ʔɐt͡sxi˧] - atskhi
[nɪrja˥] - niryá
[tno˧] - tno
[ʔɪpʰã:˧] - ipahn
[ɬʃi˧] - lhshi
[ɬsɒ:˧] - lhsaoh
[ⁿdɔ:j˩] - dòaih
[ʔʊftã˧] - uphtan
[nʲt͡sʲi:˥] - nhtsíh
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Re: Word evolution game
Loss of vowel length.
[ⁿdɔ̃˩˧] - dóan
[ʔɐt͡sxi˧] - atskhi
[nɪrja˥] - niryá
[tno˧] - tno
[ʔɪpʰã˧] - ipan
[ɬʃi˧] - lhshi
[ɬsɒ˧] - lhsao
[ⁿdɔj˩] - dòai
[ʔʊftã˧] - uphtan
[nʲt͡sʲi˥] - nhtsí
[ⁿdɔ̃˩˧] - dóan
[ʔɐt͡sxi˧] - atskhi
[nɪrja˥] - niryá
[tno˧] - tno
[ʔɪpʰã˧] - ipan
[ɬʃi˧] - lhshi
[ɬsɒ˧] - lhsao
[ⁿdɔj˩] - dòai
[ʔʊftã˧] - uphtan
[nʲt͡sʲi˥] - nhtsí
Re: Word evolution game
Vowels break to house contour tones.
[ⁿdõã˩˧] - dóan
[ʔɐt͡sxi˧] - atskhi
[nɪrja˥] - niryá
[tno˧] - tno
[ʔɪpʰã˧] - ipan
[ɬʃi˧] - lhshi
[ɬsɒ˧] - lhsao
[ⁿdɔj˩] - dòai
[ʔʊftã˧] - uphtan
[nʲt͡sʲi˥] - nhtsí
[ⁿdõã˩˧] - dóan
[ʔɐt͡sxi˧] - atskhi
[nɪrja˥] - niryá
[tno˧] - tno
[ʔɪpʰã˧] - ipan
[ɬʃi˧] - lhshi
[ɬsɒ˧] - lhsao
[ⁿdɔj˩] - dòai
[ʔʊftã˧] - uphtan
[nʲt͡sʲi˥] - nhtsí
Re: Word evolution game
Loss of presyllables; where glottal stops were present in presyllables, they are lost and turn plosives into ejectives in following major syllable onsets into ejectives. Front vowels in presyllables palatalize the resulting new onsets, and rounded vowels in presyllables labialize them.
[ⁿdõã˩˧] - dóan
[t͡sʼxi˧] - atskhi
[nʲrʲja˥] - niryá
[tno˧] - tno
[pʲʼã˧] - ipan
[ɬʃi˧] - lhshi
[ɬsɒ˧] - lhsao
[ⁿdɔj˩] - dòai
[fʷtʷʼã˧] - uphtan
[nʲt͡sʲi˥] - nhtsí
[ⁿdõã˩˧] - dóan
[t͡sʼxi˧] - atskhi
[nʲrʲja˥] - niryá
[tno˧] - tno
[pʲʼã˧] - ipan
[ɬʃi˧] - lhshi
[ɬsɒ˧] - lhsao
[ⁿdɔj˩] - dòai
[fʷtʷʼã˧] - uphtan
[nʲt͡sʲi˥] - nhtsí
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T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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Re: Word evolution game
Loss of nasal vowels:
[ⁿdoa˩˧] - dóa
[t͡sʼxi˧] - ts'khi
[nʲrʲja˥] - nryiá
[tno˧] - tno
[pʲʼa˧] - pya
[ɬʃi˧] - lhshi
[ɬsɒ˧] - lhsao
[ⁿdɔj˩] - dòai
[fʷtʷʼã˧] - phtwa
[nʲt͡sʲi˥] - nhtsyí
[ⁿdoa˩˧] - dóa
[t͡sʼxi˧] - ts'khi
[nʲrʲja˥] - nryiá
[tno˧] - tno
[pʲʼa˧] - pya
[ɬʃi˧] - lhshi
[ɬsɒ˧] - lhsao
[ⁿdɔj˩] - dòai
[fʷtʷʼã˧] - phtwa
[nʲt͡sʲi˥] - nhtsyí
Re: Word evolution game
Palatisation of consonants before front vowels.
[ⁿdoa˩˧] - dóa
[t͡sʲʼxʲi˧] - ts'khi
[nʲrʲja˥] - nryiá
[tno˧] - tno
[pʲʼa˧] - pya
[ɬʲʃʲi˧] - lhshi
[ɬsɒ˧] - lhsao
[ⁿdɔj˩] - dòai
[fʷtʷʼa˧] - phtwa
[nʲt͡sʲi˥] - nhtsyí
[ⁿdoa˩˧] - dóa
[t͡sʲʼxʲi˧] - ts'khi
[nʲrʲja˥] - nryiá
[tno˧] - tno
[pʲʼa˧] - pya
[ɬʲʃʲi˧] - lhshi
[ɬsɒ˧] - lhsao
[ⁿdɔj˩] - dòai
[fʷtʷʼa˧] - phtwa
[nʲt͡sʲi˥] - nhtsyí
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Re: Word evolution game
Palatals resolve with degemination where geminates would otherwise occur: [tsʲ pʲ xʲ ɬʲ ʃ nʲ rʲ] > [cɕ cɕ ç ɕ ɕ ɲ j].
[ⁿdoa˩˧] - dóa
[cɕʼçi˧] - ch'khi
[ɲja˥] - nyiá
[tno˧] - tno
[cɕʼa˧] - cha
[ɕi˧] - shi
[ɬsɒ˧] - lhsao
[ⁿdɔj˩] - dòai
[fʷtʷʼa˧] - phtwa
[ɲcɕi˥] - nchí
[ⁿdoa˩˧] - dóa
[cɕʼçi˧] - ch'khi
[ɲja˥] - nyiá
[tno˧] - tno
[cɕʼa˧] - cha
[ɕi˧] - shi
[ɬsɒ˧] - lhsao
[ⁿdɔj˩] - dòai
[fʷtʷʼa˧] - phtwa
[ɲcɕi˥] - nchí
Re: Word evolution game
I motion that we forbid changing consonants into alveolopalatals or palatals en masse.Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:34 pm Palatals resolve with degemination where geminates would otherwise occur: [tsʲ pʲ xʲ ɬʲ ʃ nʲ rʲ] > [cɕ cɕ ç ɕ ɕ ɲ j].
[ⁿdoa˩˧] - dóa
[cɕʼçi˧] - ch'khi
[ɲja˥] - nyiá
[tno˧] - tno
[cɕʼa˧] - cha
[ɕi˧] - shi
[ɬsɒ˧] - lhsao
[ⁿdɔj˩] - dòai
[fʷtʷʼa˧] - phtwa
[ɲcɕi˥] - nchí
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Re: Word evolution game
It's an extremely common sound change.
Re: Word evolution game
Yes, but I'm growing tired of [cɕ ɕ ç].
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Re: Word evolution game
Re: Word evolution game
The thing is it's often too symmetrical-looking. E.g. in this case I might have done something like:Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 10:34 pmIt seemed the best way to stabilise that clearly unstable inventory, especially since [ɬʲ ʃʲ] were both already present.
[tsʲ pʲ xʲ ɬʲ ʃ nʲ rʲ] > [tʃ pʲ ç ʃ ʃ ɲ ʒ]
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Re: Word evolution game
The plain [ʃ] in the original sequence is a typo, it was [ʃʲ] (essentially [ɕ]) already, so I would expect the others to shift into a similar position rather than [ʃ] to depalatalise when there aren't any palatoalveolars present yet.Travis B. wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 10:48 pmThe thing is it's often too symmetrical-looking. E.g. in this case I might have done something like:Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 10:34 pmIt seemed the best way to stabilise that clearly unstable inventory, especially since [ɬʲ ʃʲ] were both already present.
[tsʲ pʲ xʲ ɬʲ ʃ nʲ rʲ] > [tʃ pʲ ç ʃ ʃ ɲ ʒ]
Re: Word evolution game
Oh boy Rounin Ryuuji is at it again with his palatals.
Re: Word evolution game
Chain shift of /cɕ/ → /ç/ → /s/ → /h/
[ⁿdoa˩˧] - dóa
[çʼsi˧] - ch'khi
[ɲja˥] - nyiá
[tno˧] - tno
[çʼa˧] - cha
[si˧] - shi
[ɬhɒ˧] - lhsao
[ⁿdɔj˩] - dòai
[fʷtʷʼa˧] - phtwa
[ɲçi˥] - nchí
[ⁿdoa˩˧] - dóa
[çʼsi˧] - ch'khi
[ɲja˥] - nyiá
[tno˧] - tno
[çʼa˧] - cha
[si˧] - shi
[ɬhɒ˧] - lhsao
[ⁿdɔj˩] - dòai
[fʷtʷʼa˧] - phtwa
[ɲçi˥] - nchí
Re: Word evolution game
[ⁿdoa˩˧] - dóa
[jʼsi˧] - y'khi
[ɲja˥] - nyiá
[tno˧] - tno
[jʼa˧] - y'a
[si˧] - shi
[ɬhɒ˧] - lhsao
[ⁿdɔj˩] - dòai
[fʷtʷʼa˧] - phtwa
[ɲji˥] - nyí
*ç > *j
[jʼsi˧] - y'khi
[ɲja˥] - nyiá
[tno˧] - tno
[jʼa˧] - y'a
[si˧] - shi
[ɬhɒ˧] - lhsao
[ⁿdɔj˩] - dòai
[fʷtʷʼa˧] - phtwa
[ɲji˥] - nyí
*ç > *j
Re: Word evolution game
/jʼ/ → /ʔʲ/
[ⁿdoa˩˧] - dóa
[ʔʲsi˧] - y'khi
[ɲja˥] - nyiá
[tno˧] - tno
[ʔʲa˧] - y'a
[si˧] - shi
[ɬhɒ˧] - lhsao
[ⁿdɔj˩] - dòai
[fʷtʷʼa˧] - phtwa
[ɲji˥] - nyí
[ⁿdoa˩˧] - dóa
[ʔʲsi˧] - y'khi
[ɲja˥] - nyiá
[tno˧] - tno
[ʔʲa˧] - y'a
[si˧] - shi
[ɬhɒ˧] - lhsao
[ⁿdɔj˩] - dòai
[fʷtʷʼa˧] - phtwa
[ɲji˥] - nyí
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Re: Word evolution game
Nasal + Consonant sequences yield new instances of prenasalisation: [ɲj tn] > [ɲɟ ⁿd]
[ⁿdoa˩˧] - dóa
[ʔʲsi˧] - y'khi
[ɲɟa˥] - gyá
[ⁿdo˧] - do
[ʔʲa˧] - qya
[si˧] - shi
[ɬhɒ˧] - lhsao
[ⁿdɔj˩] - dòai
[fʷtʷʼa˧] - phtwa
[ɲɟi˥] - gyí
[ⁿdoa˩˧] - dóa
[ʔʲsi˧] - y'khi
[ɲɟa˥] - gyá
[ⁿdo˧] - do
[ʔʲa˧] - qya
[si˧] - shi
[ɬhɒ˧] - lhsao
[ⁿdɔj˩] - dòai
[fʷtʷʼa˧] - phtwa
[ɲɟi˥] - gyí