End of Article Symbol

Natural languages and linguistics
Post Reply
jcb
Posts: 67
Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:36 pm

End of Article Symbol

Post by jcb »

In English, in magazines, sometimes there is a symbol that is placed at the end of an article, because of the irregular layout that most magazines have, it's not always clear when an article ends, unlike when a chapter ends in a book, which is usually clear.

But, what I find most interesting about this phenomenon, is that there isn't a single standard character that's used, unlike other punctuation. The most common choice seems to be a symbol derived with the company name or logo. ... The closest thing to a standard character that I can think of is the end-of-proof symbol ( ∎ or □ ) used in math proofs. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tombstone_(typography) ), but this character is mostly limited to math.

So, my questions are:
(1) Do other languages also use such a symbol ?
(2) If so, is there a standard symbol that is used ?
(3) If you could suggest/create a symbol to be standardly used, what would you suggest/create ?
Last edited by jcb on Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:59 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Emily
Posts: 342
Joined: Fri Aug 03, 2018 6:24 am
Contact:

Re: End of Article Symbol

Post by Emily »

the most common non-logo version i see is what i guess is supposed to be a leaf or something but looks like a radish to me

fake edit: this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleuron_(typography)
jcb
Posts: 67
Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:36 pm

Re: End of Article Symbol

Post by jcb »

the most common non-logo version i see is what i guess is supposed to be a leaf or something but looks like a radish to me
I thought fleurons were used more as a section break symbol ?, which isn't really the same thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_( ... ion_breaks

Also, section breaks seem to be somewhat more standardized. Sure, books do often still make their section break symbol fancy, but there's also many that just use a straight line (as html's <hr> tag does by default) or 3 asterisks (***) (which markdown turns into a an <hr> tag). RIP to the asterism (⁂) though. The last book I that I read that I remember having one was over 100 years old.

Also also, while looking up punctuation recently, discovered this cool looking character: ߷ https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%DF%B7 Wiktionary says """The gbakurunen, a punctuation mark used in the N’Ko script to indicate the end of a major section of text; similar in function to an asterism: ⟨⁂⟩ or coronis: ⟨⸎⟩."""

Answering my own question (3), I've thought about how the coronis could be simplified into 5 lines that form a diamond, instead of it's 7 lines, 2 commas, and a circle that make up the glyph now. But even 5 lines still seems too cumbersome.
Last edited by jcb on Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:05 pm, edited 2 times in total.
bradrn
Posts: 5736
Joined: Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:25 am

Re: End of Article Symbol

Post by bradrn »

jcb wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 8:27 pm But, what I find most interesting about this phenomenon, is that there isn't a single standard character that's used, unlike other punctuation. The most common choice seems to be a symbol derived with the company name or logo. ... The closest thing to a standard character that I can think of is the end-of-proof symbol ( ∎ or □ ) used in math proofs. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tombstone_(typography) ), but this character is mostly limited to math.
I’ve certainly seen this character in other contexts (e.g. science magazines), so it’s not that limited.
Conlangs: Scratchpad | Texts | antilanguage
Software: See http://bradrn.com/projects.html
Other: Ergativity for Novices

(Why does phpBB not let me add >5 links here?)
User avatar
WeepingElf
Posts: 1380
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:39 pm
Location: Braunschweig, Germany
Contact:

Re: End of Article Symbol

Post by WeepingElf »

bradrn wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 2:15 am
jcb wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 8:27 pm But, what I find most interesting about this phenomenon, is that there isn't a single standard character that's used, unlike other punctuation. The most common choice seems to be a symbol derived with the company name or logo. ... The closest thing to a standard character that I can think of is the end-of-proof symbol ( ∎ or □ ) used in math proofs. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tombstone_(typography) ), but this character is mostly limited to math.
I’ve certainly seen this character in other contexts (e.g. science magazines), so it’s not that limited.
Yes. Tombstones (funny name; I hadn't heard of it before) are not uncommon as end-of-article marks in magazines at least in Germany. There are other options, though; my favourite music magazine, for instance, uses three asterisks.
... brought to you by the Weeping Elf
My conlang pages
jcb
Posts: 67
Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:36 pm

Re: End of Article Symbol

Post by jcb »

I’ve certainly seen this character in other contexts (e.g. science magazines), so it’s not that limited.
A science magazine is still STEM, where you can expect the audience to have a higher than average knowledge of math notation. But, I wouldn't expect the end of proof character to be used to end an article in a fashion magazine, for example.
There are other options, though; my favourite music magazine, for instance, uses three asterisks.
Cool ! What magazine ? Do you have an image ?
User avatar
WeepingElf
Posts: 1380
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:39 pm
Location: Braunschweig, Germany
Contact:

Re: End of Article Symbol

Post by WeepingElf »

jcb wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 11:40 am
There are other options, though; my favourite music magazine, for instance, uses three asterisks.
Cool ! What magazine ? Do you have an image ?
It is Eclipsed, a German rock magazine, and I don't have an image, but it is simply three asterisks in a row: ***.
... brought to you by the Weeping Elf
My conlang pages
User avatar
xxx
Posts: 648
Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:40 pm

Re: End of Article Symbol

Post by xxx »

Image Image
???
User avatar
WeepingElf
Posts: 1380
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:39 pm
Location: Braunschweig, Germany
Contact:

Re: End of Article Symbol

Post by WeepingElf »

Yes, that one.
... brought to you by the Weeping Elf
My conlang pages
bradrn
Posts: 5736
Joined: Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:25 am

Re: End of Article Symbol

Post by bradrn »

I’d call that a ‘byline’, which is something quite different.
Conlangs: Scratchpad | Texts | antilanguage
Software: See http://bradrn.com/projects.html
Other: Ergativity for Novices

(Why does phpBB not let me add >5 links here?)
User avatar
alice
Posts: 913
Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:15 am
Location: 'twixt Survival and Guilt

Re: End of Article Symbol

Post by alice »

Some of us, raised in a different tradition, might interpret those three Asterixes as a rating, and wonder why everything is so mediocre.
Self-referential signatures are for people too boring to come up with more interesting alternatives.
Richard W
Posts: 1414
Joined: Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:53 pm

Re: End of Article Symbol

Post by Richard W »

bradrn wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 2:15 am
I’ve certainly seen this character in other contexts (e.g. science magazines), so it’s not that limited.
Halmos said he borrowed the tombstone from magazine articles!
Travis B.
Posts: 6305
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:52 pm

Re: End of Article Symbol

Post by Travis B. »

alice wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 9:16 am Some of us, raised in a different tradition, might interpret those three Asterixes as a rating, and wonder why everything is so mediocre.
I for one have never seen an article ended with three Asterixes! Maybe three asterisks, though.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka ha wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate ha eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Post Reply