Conlang fluency thread

[xxx]

n¯VbQjÀ´S±
(acting necessary (on) nothing and words new...)
nothing to do except conlanging...

[Imralu]

fyfwxwkybicwuwxwfwxwfybibkuwuwxwuwuky
(my word as yours but seen as word of mine and not understandable by you...)
my English translation is a word to word with 3SDL (not a good English translation)...

Now you've got it!

Source language
Gloss
Translation

The thing is then, if your "back translation" doesn't require any abbreviations or grammatical categories at all, it seems like it's more or less a cypher of English, even if, as you said, the word order can be different. Or it's simply a very crude and inexact gloss. I now understand what you meant about it being suitable for isolating languages though. If you can assign an English word to each word in the source language, then your crude gloss doesn't even need hyphens. If you ever have a word that needs two or more English words to translate it though, you'll need to join them with full stops like.this.

Also, the aesthetics just changed. The post I'm replying to doesn't contain any "special characters" ... seems suspiciously like you're just keyboard smashing and then telling us it means whatever and couldn't be bothered opening Character Map this time.

Nai vi u zyei yu nai ze ngegyo va hi u zwe bya zyange.
1S-COP bad^E SIT cause-COP C 1S-COP no^E write^A all DEM SIT use^A other^E language
Sorry for not writing all of that in another language.

[bradrn]

fyfwxwkybicwuwxwfwxwfybibkuwuwxwuwuky
(my word as yours but seen as word of mine and not understandable by you...)
my English translation is a word to word with 3SDL (not a good English translation)...

Now you've got it!

Source language
Gloss
Translation

That’s no different to what they were doing before!

Also, the aesthetics just changed. The post I'm replying to doesn't contain any "special characters" ... seems suspiciously like you're just keyboard smashing and then telling us it means whatever and couldn't be bothered opening Character Map this time.

They’ve been doing that all along. I’m pretty sure they just have two languages.

[Imralu]

fyfwxwkybicwuwxwfwxwfybibkuwuwxwuwuky
(my word as yours but seen as word of mine and not understandable by you...)
my English translation is a word to word with 3SDL (not a good English translation)...

Now you've got it!

Source language
Gloss
Translation

That’s no different to what they were doing before!

U zi do, zei nggwa ne dyibwo nggilisyi ye ndwa.
SIT PST^E thus | no^E-COP frequent^E undergo^A foreign.word English ESS yes
There was frequently no correct English.

I do, hi ndui ndzwa mya ma?
COP thus | DEM low^E-COP signify^A GEN.what what
Like, WTF does this mean?

3SDL:
f«»u­«gºf«¿fºf«»h«M¾fº

(this word belonging to you not speaking of me whose language living independently of me..)

[bradrn]

Now you've got it!

Source language
Gloss
Translation

That’s no different to what they were doing before!

U zi do, zei nggwa ne dyibwo nggilisyi ye ndwa.
SIT PST^E thus | no^E-COP frequent^E undergo^A foreign.word English ESS yes
There was frequently no correct English.

Tseke nii mbu waq thabu.
that FOC but do densely

And often there was.

[Travis B.]

Bya gyiew the kyan dzin he.
[bja ɡjɯɤw tʰe kjɛɴ dziɴ he]
DIST appear.like.IPFV DIRECT.EVID language real NEG
That looked like no real language

[bradrn]

Bya gyiew the kyan dzin he.
[bja ɡjɯɤw tʰe kjɛɴ dziɴ he]
DIST appear.like.IPFV DIRECT.EVID language real NEG
That looked like no real language

Lojban mbu mah.
Lojban but do.PFV

Neither did Lojban.

[xxx]

k¿k°kðp°kÁl¿
(my words not-able-to-answer to words-of you...)
impossible to answer you in conlang...

jñĆ hñð hąĂ løĆY T
(this-thing said-by us elsewhere please...)
let's talk about this elsewhere...

(I find it difficult to hold a linguistic conversation in 3SDL...)

I do, hi ndui ndzwa mya ma?
COP thus | DEM low^E-COP signify^A GEN.what what
Like, WTF does this mean?

May not mâk the ha.
[mɛj nøʔ mɑˤʔ tʰe ha]
1.S be.harsh overly DIRECT.EVID INT
Am I being overly harsh?

3SDL:
f«»u­«gºf«¿fºf«»h«M¾fº

(this word belonging to you not speaking of me whose language living independently of me..)

it means:
I didn't take your criticism for myself, but for my conlang which is external to me...

(sorry)

[masako]

I do, hi ndui ndzwa mya ma?
COP thus | DEM low^E-COP signify^A GEN.what what
Like, WTF does this mean?

3SDL:
f«»u­«gºf«¿fºf«»h«M¾fº

(this word belonging to you not speaking of me whose language living independently of me..)

ya tlalo yetla yanimue ma tla'a kunatsampe
VOC clearly DIST.4s definition-ABE and probable feces-INV-TERM
Clearly that is meaningless and probably just bullshit.

[xxx]

jijefydhyafwpdwfwjeaiageae'efuajeehiajeaeegifgevce
(you having said clear and shit and words maybe seen as words of men named the eye to protect from sexuality...)
you really use clear and shit like in English...

[Rounin Ryuuji]

悪笑辞語 在りと 之俺い 重へ 続。
をるわらきやふいふ ありと いみよい おもへつゆく。
Woruwarakyō-iyu ari to imyoi omoe tsuyuku.
[wó̞ᵝ.ɾ̪ʉ̀ᵝ.wɐ̞́ˑ.ɾ̪ɐ̞̀.c͡çi̯ò̞ᵝː íˑ.jỳ ɐ̞́ˑ.ɾ̪ʲì t̪ʰʷò̞ᵝ ì.mᶣi̯ó̞ᵝˑ.(w)ì ó̞̞ᵝˑ.mò̞ᵝ.(w)è̞ t̪͡s̪ʰʲýᵝ.jýᵝˑ.kʰʉ̀ᵝ]
woru-wara-kyō iyu to i-myo-i omo-(h)e tsuyuk-u
evil.laugh.word language QUOTATIVE PROXIMAL.1SG.DEFINITE weigh.CONJUNCT continue.PREDICATIVE
"I still think that's a troll language."

[xxx]

l¿k°Tz²°³cR6²ÁVkÁk¿z°³Ud¿³
(your past speaking given by only maybe writing of me future giving another...)
it's only my script that makes you say that, I'll use another...

[bradrn]

it's only my script that makes you say that

Sike daa mah tham. Ni di ndeqis qanu qanu tlii walha bisa tleŋ sal?

this=indeed do likely. you=can place gap gap PL go part PL suggest?

That could well be the case. Maybe you could try adding spaces between the words?

[xxx]

kYk÷ąd\6ôødk[
(my words all seen as one word...)
all the speeches in my conlang are considered as one word...

[bradrn]

kYk÷ąd\6ôødk[
(my words all seen as one word...)
all the speeches in my conlang are considered as one word...

Your English gloss strongly implies differently. If you have coherent strings of symbols which mean a single thing and can’t be broken up into components, those are ‘words’ by the usual definition.

(This conversation is getting increasingly hard to have in any of our conlangs, I feel…)

[masako]

na homalon hoyo ma moyakua tlamyo ipa uekupua
1s note-PL-ACC 3s.GEN and symbol-INCL 4pl.GEN differ review-PFV
I've reviewed his posts and none of his "letters" match.

His "transcription" is even more inconsistent than his "glossing". Go on, have a look at his posts and compare the English to his "ScRiPt". He's quite clearly trolling us. This will be my last post on the subject.

[foxcatdog]

na· kinabé·gamaj mi·kí naguccabi
na· ki+nabé·ka-maj mi·kí nagujja+bi·
1.sg VERB-new-discontinuous DEM.1.ANI speak+NOM
“I am reviving this language”

[Imralu]

na
1s
I

na·
na·
1.sg
“I”

Na.
1S
I

[Imralu]

Wi dwozi do, zingi nedzwe zyo nwavyoi dzwi zyu nai mwe nge agwe nwimu gyonge wi nyori.
SIT-COP last.night thus | prior.event in.pain^E head unilateral^E-COP prevent^A GEN.C 1S-COP able^E communicate^A or.INCL understand^A text SIT-COP small.time
Last night, I had a migraine aura that gave me aphasia for a short time.

[xxx]

Your English gloss strongly implies differently. If you have coherent strings of symbols which mean a single thing and can’t be broken up into components, those are ‘words’ by the usual definition.

lÀlÂÞº³dSeµ¶´ƒ³¶SÞºel³vµÆYlÂS7³Âe³äµYlÂK³Å²lZ
(my language containing only very few roots and in a single word long and seen as a network and not cuttable by me...)

I see my conlang strongly oligosynthetic and polysynthetic that grows as a rhizome that I wouldn't know where to cut...