What have you accomplished today?

Conworlds and conlangs
chris_notts
Posts: 682
Joined: Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:35 pm

Re: What have you accomplished today?

Post by chris_notts »

I wrote a post about my word order struggles:

https://chrisintheweeds.com/2023/04/22/ ... ndecision/
User avatar
masako
Posts: 887
Joined: Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:25 pm

Re: What have you accomplished today?

Post by masako »

Image
User avatar
xxx
Posts: 810
Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:40 pm

Re: What have you accomplished today?

Post by xxx »

congratulations...
User avatar
WeepingElf
Posts: 1511
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:39 pm
Location: Braunschweig, Germany
Contact:

Re: What have you accomplished today?

Post by WeepingElf »

A good presentation, thank you for sharing!
... brought to you by the Weeping Elf
My conlang pages
Ares Land
Posts: 3021
Joined: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:35 pm

Re: What have you accomplished today?

Post by Ares Land »

Same, thanks for sharing. That was a good talk!
User avatar
masako
Posts: 887
Joined: Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:25 pm

Re: What have you accomplished today?

Post by masako »

WeepingElf wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:03 am A good presentation, thank you for sharing!
Ares Land wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 3:53 pm Same, thanks for sharing. That was a good talk!
Thank you very much!
Image
User avatar
Emily
Posts: 381
Joined: Fri Aug 03, 2018 6:24 am
Contact:

Re: What have you accomplished today?

Post by Emily »

worked on developing what some place names might be in (early) modern gothic, though this is stymied somewhat by unclear info. mostly this is not knowing where the stress is supposed to go (e.g. borrowing /vrotislav/ "wrocław" results in either /vrudizlav/, /vrutizlev/, or /vrodizlev/ depending on the original stress), but there's also questions like whether prague's original /g/ was a stop or a fricative, or when and how the various consonants in szczecin/stettin got palatalized. idk where to look for more details besides wikipedia tbh. on the other hand i'm having fun with sound changes leading to irregular stems between accusative and dative forms (a possibility for plzen is acc /plizo/, dat /plene/, for example), and the slavic grad/gord/gorod is close enough to gothic /gard-/ that i'm just gonna have them substitute the latter for the former when they borrow place names (which ends up becoming a suffix /-herd/)
User avatar
Rounin Ryuuji
Posts: 2994
Joined: Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:47 pm

Re: What have you accomplished today?

Post by Rounin Ryuuji »

When in doubt, the substitution of similar-sounding native morphemes is always a probability.
Moose-tache
Posts: 1746
Joined: Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:12 am

Re: What have you accomplished today?

Post by Moose-tache »

I think the lenition of /g/ in Czech and other Slavic languages is dated to the high middle ages, a few centuries after the establishment of Prague.

As for the stress of Slavic words, the Proto-Slavic intonation is often recoverable, and we can compare that to modern Polish to see what has and hasn't moved. For Vortislav, the stress would have been on the first syllable, unless I'm wrong about the rules of compound words.
I did it. I made the world's worst book review blog.
User avatar
Emily
Posts: 381
Joined: Fri Aug 03, 2018 6:24 am
Contact:

Re: What have you accomplished today?

Post by Emily »

Moose-tache wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 7:24 am I think the lenition of /g/ in Czech and other Slavic languages is dated to the high middle ages, a few centuries after the establishment of Prague.

As for the stress of Slavic words, the Proto-Slavic intonation is often recoverable, and we can compare that to modern Polish to see what has and hasn't moved. For Vortislav, the stress would have been on the first syllable, unless I'm wrong about the rules of compound words.
thank you! you wouldn't happen to have any links or resources with more detail, would you?
hwhatting
Posts: 1093
Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:09 am
Location: Bonn
Contact:

Re: What have you accomplished today?

Post by hwhatting »

Moose-tache wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 7:24 am For Vortislav, the stress would have been on the first syllable, unless I'm wrong about the rules of compound words.
I can only jugde based on Russian; there, compounds can have the stress both on the first and the second element. But the personal names in -slav are indeed stressed on the first element.
Moose-tache
Posts: 1746
Joined: Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:12 am

Re: What have you accomplished today?

Post by Moose-tache »

Slavic stress is a controversial area, so I don't know if there is one source to consult. But I remember seeing some of the seminal papers on the topic on academia.org. I would recommend starting there, if Wiktionary/Wikipedia links don't help.

Also, Galician (my Balto-Slavic conlang) was influenced by OTL Gothic, and somewhere I might have a list of believed-to-be-Gothic toponyms, if I can navigate my own notes.
Last edited by Moose-tache on Thu May 04, 2023 8:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I did it. I made the world's worst book review blog.
User avatar
Man in Space
Posts: 1694
Joined: Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:05 am

Re: What have you accomplished today?

Post by Man in Space »

I did my senior capstone project on Slavic stress. Unfortunately I was a very uninspired student so my paper basically amounted to the undergraduate equivalent of a shrug emoji.
User avatar
Emily
Posts: 381
Joined: Fri Aug 03, 2018 6:24 am
Contact:

Re: What have you accomplished today?

Post by Emily »

took a break from the gothic project to work on reconstructing some thoughts for a setting i had worked on back in the day but lost the notes for (a socal county jammed in between a separated orange and san diego counties). very pleased with some of these place names, hope to get a map going soon
User avatar
doctor shark
Posts: 445
Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:21 am
Location: The Grandest of Duchies
Contact:

Re: What have you accomplished today?

Post by doctor shark »

I like money.
More: show
Image
aka vampireshark
The other kind of doctor.
Perpetually in search of banknote subjects. Inquire within.
hwhatting
Posts: 1093
Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:09 am
Location: Bonn
Contact:

Re: What have you accomplished today?

Post by hwhatting »

Another micronation?
User avatar
linguistcat
Posts: 453
Joined: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:17 pm
Location: Utah, USA

Re: What have you accomplished today?

Post by linguistcat »

Really an accomplishment over several days, but I found a PDF of The Japanese Language Through Time by Samuel E. Martin, and have been reading through it for useful information. Some of the ideas are a little outdated (it IS from 1987), but I've been able to find several good bits of reference for my Japonic relative conlang and Classical Japanese in general.
A cat and a linguist.
User avatar
Rounin Ryuuji
Posts: 2994
Joined: Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:47 pm

Re: What have you accomplished today?

Post by Rounin Ryuuji »

Sounds like an interesting read. Do you happen to have a link handy?
User avatar
linguistcat
Posts: 453
Joined: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:17 pm
Location: Utah, USA

Re: What have you accomplished today?

Post by linguistcat »

Rounin Ryuuji wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 12:48 pm Sounds like an interesting read. Do you happen to have a link handy?
https://vdoc.pub/documents/the-japanese ... ns9uutl0l0 I did notice that if you save it, you need to get rid of the period after vdoc in the name (or just rename the file more generally) otherwise the PDF reader will think it's the wrong kind of file.
A cat and a linguist.
User avatar
Rounin Ryuuji
Posts: 2994
Joined: Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:47 pm

Re: What have you accomplished today?

Post by Rounin Ryuuji »

linguistcat wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 6:18 pm
Rounin Ryuuji wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 12:48 pm Sounds like an interesting read. Do you happen to have a link handy?
https://vdoc.pub/documents/the-japanese ... ns9uutl0l0 I did notice that if you save it, you need to get rid of the period after vdoc in the name (or just rename the file more generally) otherwise the PDF reader will think it's the wrong kind of file.
Thank you!
Post Reply