a small description of my con-stuff

CherylTheTGirl · Post by **CherylTheTGirl** » Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:34 am

i made a Conlang/Conworld called Sansis, and i kinda wanted to share it :)
it can be found here: https://cherylcherylcheryl.neocities.org/sansis
thanks for checking it out, if you do.

Travis B. · Post by **Travis B.** » Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:13 pm

Just a small suggestion - your site would benefit from a non-animated, solid, light-color background; the dark (i.e. low-contrast), textured, animated background makes it very hard to read.

bradrn · Post by **bradrn** » Sat Jun 24, 2023 8:15 pm

Travis B. wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:13 pm Just a small suggestion - your site would benefit from a non-animated, solid, light-color background; the dark (i.e. low-contrast), textured, animated background makes it very hard to read.

I agree. At least it’s easy enough to remove.

Also, I had a go at compiling the list of phonemes into a summary table (which BTW is the preferred format here and in linguistic works):

/m n/
/b d ɡ/
/p t k/
/dz dʒ tʃ/
/ɸ s ʃ ħ/
/β w j/
/l ɾ r/

/ɑ ɛ i̝ ɵ ɯ/

I haven’t tried to understand the section on grammar, but here’s some feedback/questions on the phonology:

I like the allophony! It’s something many beginners don’t do well.
Is there any difference between graphemes ⟨j⟩ and ⟨zh⟩? If not, why do you need both of them?
Similarly, is it possible to distinguish ⟨b⟩ and ⟨v⟩ word-medially?
What kind of syllable structure does this language have?

chris_notts · Post by **chris_notts** » Sun Jun 25, 2023 1:38 pm

Is there a little bit of Japanese inspiration to the verb morphology? Obviously it's not the same, but I got the feeling that there might be a bit of that in the mix.

Incidentally, there's a cool addressee distinction from Basque that you might be interested in: traditionally many verbs agree with the gender of the addressee, but only if there's an informal/familiar relationship with the speaker. See:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_ve ... ces_(hika)

Moose-tache · Post by **Moose-tache** » Sun Jun 25, 2023 5:01 pm

bradrn wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 8:15 pm
I agree. At least it’s easy enough to remove.

Care to explain?

bradrn · Post by **bradrn** » Mon Jun 26, 2023 12:40 am

Moose-tache wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2023 5:01 pm
bradrn wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 8:15 pm
I agree. At least it’s easy enough to remove.

Care to explain?

Right-click, press ‘Inspect element’, and remove the background-image from the <body> tag.

WeepingElf · Post by **WeepingElf** » Mon Jun 26, 2023 4:36 am

bradrn wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 12:40 am
Moose-tache wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2023 5:01 pm
bradrn wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 8:15 pm
I agree. At least it’s easy enough to remove.

Care to explain?
Right-click, press ‘Inspect element’, and remove the background-image from the <body> tag.

Thank you, I didn't know of this feature before! But in this case, the resulting greyish blue background is too dark.

KathTheDragon · Post by **KathTheDragon** » Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:42 am

WeepingElf wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 4:36 am
bradrn wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 12:40 am
Moose-tache wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2023 5:01 pm

Care to explain?
Right-click, press ‘Inspect element’, and remove the background-image from the <body> tag.
Thank you, I didn't know of this feature before! But in this case, the resulting greyish blue background is too dark.

Also remove the background-color attribute in the CSS (or change its value to something else)

WeepingElf · Post by **WeepingElf** » Mon Jun 26, 2023 10:46 am

Of course!

Imralu · Post by **Imralu** » Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:14 pm

The nineties called and it wants its website design back. I don’t want to risk reading that. It feels like it could give me a migraine. I’m on my phone, so I can’t do any of the things suggested above to mitigate the sheer awfulness of the page’s appearance.

Emily · Post by **Emily** » Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:57 pm

don't listen to everyone whining about the background, it rules

xxx · Post by **xxx** » Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:14 am

Emily wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:57 pm don't listen to everyone whining about the background, it rules

+1
a non-human appearance for a non-human race...
more immersive drawings...
more exotic detail...

WeepingElf · Post by **WeepingElf** » Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:53 am

Also, the font is very grainy, which doesn't make reading easier.

bradrn · Post by **bradrn** » Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:17 am

I know I also said I disliked the formatting, but do we really all need to pile on and complain about it this much? The formatting is the least important part of the conlang (and I say this as someone who is very much a perfectionist about formatting).

Imralu · Post by **Imralu** » Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:43 am

bradrn wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:17 am I know I also said I disliked the formatting, but do we really all need to pile on and complain about it this much? The formatting is the least important part of the conlang (and I say this as someone who is very much a perfectionist about formatting).

It's literally preventing me from reading it.

WeepingElf · Post by **WeepingElf** » Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:42 am

bradrn wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:17 am I know I also said I disliked the formatting, but do we really all need to pile on and complain about it this much? The formatting is the least important part of the conlang (and I say this as someone who is very much a perfectionist about formatting).

Fair. Let's not embark more on the presentation, but focus more on the content. Alas, I have little to say about that, except that it looks like the work of a beginner. That's fine, of course - we all did rather unsophisticated worlds and languages when we were young.

EDIT: This very post is my post #1000 on this incarnation of the ZBB.

evmdbm · Post by **evmdbm** » Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:30 pm

WeepingElf wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:42 am Alas, I have little to say about that, except that it looks like the work of a beginner. That's fine, of course - we all did rather unsophisticated worlds and languages when we were young.

And it does take a little bit of guts to chuck it out there not knowing what people will say.... Personally I'm intrigued by cat-demon combinations. Our dog probably thinks all cats are demonic already mind

CherylTheTGirl · Post by **CherylTheTGirl** » Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:22 am

Travis B. wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:13 pm Just a small suggestion - your site would benefit from a non-animated, solid, light-color background; the dark (i.e. low-contrast), textured, animated background makes it very hard to read.

yeah, i'm gonna try add a button that disables the bg, sorry lol

edit: done

CherylTheTGirl · Post by **CherylTheTGirl** » Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:32 am

bradrn wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 8:15 pm
Travis B. wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:13 pm Just a small suggestion - your site would benefit from a non-animated, solid, light-color background; the dark (i.e. low-contrast), textured, animated background makes it very hard to read.
I agree. At least it’s easy enough to remove.

Also, I had a go at compiling the list of phonemes into a summary table (which BTW is the preferred format here and in linguistic works):

/m n/
/b d ɡ/
/p t k/
/dz dʒ tʃ/
/ɸ s ʃ ħ/
/β w j/
/l ɾ r/

/ɑ ɛ i̝ ɵ ɯ/

I haven’t tried to understand the section on grammar, but here’s some feedback/questions on the phonology:

I like the allophony! It’s something many beginners don’t do well.

Is there any difference between graphemes ⟨j⟩ and ⟨zh⟩? If not, why do you need both of them?

Similarly, is it possible to distinguish ⟨b⟩ and ⟨v⟩ word-medially?

What kind of syllable structure does this language have?

1: thanks!
2: i do not remember why i did that.
3: tbh i got the idea from my native language, spanish, where people mistake them all the time.
4: ehhhhhhh, i think it's CCVCC? i believe klins ~~(which i shamelessly stole from latin crinis)~~ is a good example.

CherylTheTGirl · Post by **CherylTheTGirl** » Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:38 am

chris_notts wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2023 1:38 pm Is there a little bit of Japanese inspiration to the verb morphology? Obviously it's not the same, but I got the feeling that there might be a bit of that in the mix.

Incidentally, there's a cool addressee distinction from Basque that you might be interested in: traditionally many verbs agree with the gender of the addressee, but only if there's an informal/familiar relationship with the speaker. See:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_ve ... ces_(hika)

yeah, i'm trying to learn japanese, so there's probably some of that, lol (ameju actually comes from the japanese and chinese words for rain, ame and yu, but sound change eroded most ys to js)

also, hika sounds interesting. i've not yet attempted to learn the language of my northern neighbours, but that's a cool feature.

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