Lexember 2023

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wall, fence, barrier:

Proto-Tshyak: dzót [dzot]
Old Zlang: dzot [dzøʔ]

Yo źin the dzot gwot tśhak tshau.
[jo ʑiɴ tʰe dzøʔ ɡʷøʔ tɕʰɑʔ tsʰɑ]
3S build.PFV DIR wall be.between house PL.INAN
(I saw) them build a wall between houses.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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Lexember 2:

Inspired by the birds I see by the creek behind my house, I'm going to figure out how Msérsca classifies birds. Ten Lexembers ago, on the old board, I came up with a word which is now pín [piːn]. I thought that this word referred to birds in general, but my contacts in the Msérsca-speaking lands have informed me that it really applies to a more limited category. We might be tempted to translate it to "passerine," as passerines (sparrows, mockingbirds, corvids, etc.) are perhaps the archetypal píni to the Msérsca mind.

But in addition to these, pigeons, doves, hummingbirds, parrots, woodpeckers, and kingfishers are also called píni. These birds are considered to be relatively small, light of wing, and often musical (though songbirds can be called lýripín [lyːɾipiːn] (more literally "birds of songs"). Corvids specifically are also called gatto [ˈŋatθu] (singular), gattu [ˈŋatθʉ] (plural).

Other birds are grouped into different categories, which, like the above, don't always correspond to lines of descent but rather link obvious physical traits and behaviors (Msérsca speakers agree with Ishmael in Moby-Dick when he asserts that the whale is, in fact, a fish). These include:

coöns, coöndri
[kwɔns, ˈkwɔndɾi]
waterfowl (ducks, geese, swans), chickens, turkeys
Heavy of wing, often fleshy bills. Perhaps "quackers" or "honkers"--the verb is coöncar [ˈkwɔŋkaɾ]. Some Msérsca scholars connect this word to oaem [waːm] tax, offering, as geese were formerly a common animal sacrifice. I find this a bit fanciful.

cýber, cýbei
[ˈcyːbɛɾ, ˈcyːbɛi]
storks, ibises, pelicans, herons, cranes
Long necks, long beaks, long legs.

ráaf, ráavi
[ˈroːaf, ˈroːavi]
birds of prey, raptors--eagles, hawks, owls, falcons, vultures
Hunters or scavengers, often of other birds.

Owls specifically are hálax, hálaira [ˈxoːlaks, ˈxoːlaiɾa].

Penguins are goëmba, goëmbe [ˈᵑɡwɛmba, ˈᵑɡwɛmbɛ] (a variant goënda is also known). There is some debate about whether they should be grouped with coöndri or cýbei, but they are usually considered to be in their own category.
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Lexember 2

PAR=Proto-Aretian, WEN=Wengal, OIO=Old Iozhi

PAR *ŝŋibuamiuŝq̆uukiəx
< tight-prepare-string-mind-CON

WEN ñéidəveuqúčəx
paranoia; deep intuition (perhaps or explicitly to a fault)

OIO ŋívueńučúžio
a psychological trait or condition which we might equate with paranoia, psychosis or schizophrenia, associated with the god Žuńo
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Week 1 Loops
*kawa “loop” from PCA *kaba
*tikkawa “knot” from PA *keiko + PCA *kawa via dialectal borrowing
*nesi “string” from Sun Elven *neśe from proto elven root *niś- “to be long” via Marine Elven *neśe-
Also bonus
*noto “dot” probably onomatopoeic
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3/12/2023
tsaž '(be) lightning'
tsažed '(be) electricity' (with -ed, tool)
betsaž '(be an) electrician' (with b 'use hand', -e- LK2, with the stem here as a backformation of tsažed, thus meaning 'use electricity' rather than 'be lightning').
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = (non-)specific, A/ₐ = agent, E/ₑ = entity (person or thing)
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how many years has it been since i've done a lexember ? SEVERAL.

I'll be focusing on three languages: Old Sanhr (yes, it still exists), Tl'acho (from the same world as the Sanhric languages), and Samkhalês / Σαμχαλης (a personal language)

Word for 12/2 : "spicy"

Old Sanhr
/t'ik/ "be/make/feel spice(d)" (sensory verb root)

[t'iyuka]
/t'ik*u-a/
'spice'*U-PTCPL
"(something) spicy"

t'irikẽs sikai tẽn
/t'ik*r-n-s sik-ai tn/
'spice'*R-impf-indic boy-dat the
"the boy is tasting/eating something spicy"

(the U and R morphemes are verb grades, which cause ablaut and indicate event and voice structure. U is roughly "state of an object", while R is "experience")


Tl'acho
/(v)jeelh/ "be spicy" (stative verb root)

dijáájeelhteyvdze lidzóógwimige
/d-Cá-(v)jeelh=tey-n-s lidzoogw-mi-g/
3sgO-intens-'spicy'=prog-non.past-evid fish-deic-top
"this fish is really spicy" (I'm tasting this)


Σαμχαλης
/phinke/ <φιγκε> "spice" (nominal root)

ιο θαρ μαλφε φιγκεσομ
/io thar mal-phe phinke-s-om
1sg prog 'like'-past 'spice'-adj-gen
"I used to like spicy food"

σε φιγκεσερ μαλιν
/se phinke-s-er malin/
this 'spice'-adj-pl 'like'-pass
"This spicy food is enjoyable"
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Lexember 3:

Today I'll name some parts of the body in Msérsca:

tep, tevi
[tɛp, ˈtɛvi]
head, top, (plural) temples

váar, váai
[ˈvoːaɾ, ˈvoːai]
heart, love, personality - by shortening gives us vár deep, depth, core

pella, pelle
[ˈpɛlːa, ˈpɛlːɛ]
lung, (plural) breath, voice

pens, pendri
[pɛns, ˈpɛndɾi]
hand, luck, (plural) power, strength, works

teth, tedri
[tɛθ, ˈtɛðɾi~tɛzːi]
foot, (plural) base, foundation

tevirá ne lemnis tettis
[ˌtɛviˈɾoː nɛ ˈlɛmnɪs ˈtɛtθɪs]
head.ABL and low.DAT foot.DAT
from head to toe, all over

mánde pelle or plendri pelle

[ˈmoːndɛ ˈpɛlːɛ, ˈplɛndɾi ˈpɛlːɛ]
heavy.PL lung.PL or thick.PL lung.PL
a deep voice
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äreo wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 2:06 pm
tevirá ne lemnis tettis
[ˌtɛviˈɾoː nɛ ˈlɛmnɪs ˈtɛtθɪs]
head.ABL and low.DAT foot.DAT
from head to toe, all over
I don't know why, but I just like the sound of this a lot!
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Lexember 3rd:

I decided to elaborate my weather-words for the Tshyak languages some, so I came up with the following:

light rain, drizzle:

Proto-Tsyhak: kyos [kjɤs]
Old Zlang: chos [cʰøh]

heavy rain, downpour:

Proto-Tshyak: ʔərat [ʔəɻat]
Old Zlang: rât [ɻæˤʔ]

light snow, flaking:

Proto-Tshyak: ʔəŋaks [ʔəŋaks]
Old Zlang: ŋâk [ŋɑˤʔ]

heavy snow, blizzard:

Proto-Tshyak: króm [kɻom]
Old Zlang: khoŋ [kʰoɴ]

tornado, whirlwind:

Proto-Tshyak: taks [taks]
Old Zlang: thak [tʰɑʔ]

windstorm, gale:

Proto-Tshyak: har [haɻ]
Old Zlang: har [hɛɻ]
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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4/12/2023 — Music Week begins.

dulub '(be a) drum'
bedulub 'hit a drum by hand', 'be a (hand) drummer' (with b 'use hand' and -e- LK2)
tavedulub 'hit a drum with a stick', 'be a (stick) drummer' (with tav 'use a stick' and -e- LK2)
tavededulub '(be a) drumstick' (with taved '(be a) stick' (with -ed 'tool', 'bodypart') and -e- LK2)
dagadagedulub '(be) drum music' (with dagadag '(be) music' and -e- LK2) Dagadag is onomatopoeic of drums and, in Balog culture, most music consists of drumming and rhythmic chanting.
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = (non-)specific, A/ₐ = agent, E/ₑ = entity (person or thing)
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Raphael wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:10 pm
äreo wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 2:06 pm
tevirá ne lemnis tettis
[ˌtɛviˈɾoː nɛ ˈlɛmnɪs ˈtɛtθɪs]
head.ABL and low.DAT foot.DAT
from head to toe, all over
I don't know why, but I just like the sound of this a lot!
Thank you! Msérsca likes phrases like that. Meleirá ne xís ressis "from night to bright day" follows the same template.

Cool entries so far from everyone. I like what's come out of the free-for-all and how we've been kind of influencing each other. It's late here, but I'm excited to start with words for musical stuff.
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Lexember 3 (catchup)

PAR *ḷahaamiuŝq̆uukiəx
< wild-prepare-string-mind-CON

WEN ɣaijəveuqúčəx
unpredictability; freedom from constraints (perhaps or explicitly to a fault)

OIO llaiańučúžio
(sometimes overly) free-mindedness, the divine attribute of the god Xíon; a psychological character trait or condition associated with it which we might characterise as ADHD


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Lexember 4 - music theme 1/7

PAR *ŝŋibuamiuŝq̆u
tight-prepare-string

WEN ñéidəveuqú-
adj. sharp (music); vt. to tune an instrument up; vi. to worry, be worrisome/anxious

OIO ŋívueńučú-
adj. (of music) using scales with high ascending intervals;
vt. to get (or think one has got) to the bottom of something, to rout (perhaps then to be discovered to have been labouring under misapprehensions)

PAR *ŝhibi
dance

WEN héidi-
vi. to dance

OIO ívi-
vi. to dance, to perform a divine ritual

OIO ŋívueńučuívits
n. a dance performed in honour of the god Žuńo, supplicating his guidance in intuition, against music using scales with high ascending intervals
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Proto-Kangshuic, because I need to generate vocab. I will post multiple times a day until I've caught up.

Lexember 1. Speech
saˀg, to speak.
ʃasaˀg, to speak, to say. This is the perfective variant of the preceding verb.
niːsaˀg, niːʃasaˀg, ʃaniːsaˀg, "say to, speak unto". The variation is backprojected from its descendants.
ŋosaˀg, speak with.
ŋolesaˀg, discuss. (with+into+speak), and its derivative, ŋolesaˀgan, "discussion, parlay".
Mbtrtcgf qxah bdej bkska kidabh n ñstbwdj spa.
Ogñwdf n spa bdej bruoh kiñabh ñbtzmieb n qxah.
Qiegf. Qiegf. Qiegf. Qiegf. Qiegf. Qiegf. Qiegf.
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5/12/2023

kuwaŋ "be a rhythm" (potentially related to kuwik 'be a river')
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = (non-)specific, A/ₐ = agent, E/ₑ = entity (person or thing)
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Lexember 2. Existentials
i, to be, of yet uncertain grammatical function;
ʃai, ʃeː, become, cease to be.
parʃai, evolve, change.
niː, to be at.
pe:i, to be like.
lei, to be in.
rui, be under.
ŋoi, to be together with. This becomes the basic locative verb in some descendants, leading to compound derivations like leŋoi "be in" etc.
Mbtrtcgf qxah bdej bkska kidabh n ñstbwdj spa.
Ogñwdf n spa bdej bruoh kiñabh ñbtzmieb n qxah.
Qiegf. Qiegf. Qiegf. Qiegf. Qiegf. Qiegf. Qiegf.
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I did yesterday's entry offline, and am posting it now - 12/03 : fun, have fun

Old Sanhr
/bl/ “be/make/have fun” (cognitive verb root)
[bula] “(something) fun”

“That dog is going to have fun”
[bɐralami roboi ye]
/bl*r-a-mi rob-oi ye/
Fun*R-non.past-vivid dog-dat that.dist

Tl’acho
/gech’ath/ “have fun” (active root)

“Let’s all have some fun!”
[gech’ááteeyvvte] [ket͡ʃʔáːtheːjʌ̃ːthe]
/gech’at=e:-yv:-ti/
Fun=opt-famil.imper-1incl.pl


Σαμχαλης
wum/ ψυμ (verb) “have fun”

“I’m having fun with some friends”
Ιο ψυμπθα ιεδα χοσερ
/io šwum-tha ie-da khos-er/
I fun-pres anim-dat friend-pl
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Lexember 4: Music Week begins!

séar, séari
[sɛːɾ ˈsɛːɾi]
sound, pitch, tone

occea, occur
[ˈɔcːa ˈɔcːʏɾ]
sound, noise

pentemir
[ˈpɛntɛmɪɾ]
to play music ("to give of the hands")

Some consonant intervals:

impressat or stivax
[ˈɪmpɾɛsːat, ˈstivaks]
octave (shortening of impres issigat gone back to the first or "double")

braveri meath
[ˈbɾavɛɾi mjaθ]
perfect fifth ("three's half")

vdatrari birvit
[ˈvdatɾaɾi ˈbɪɾvɪt]
perfect fourth ("four's third")

fémberi veadrit
[ˈfjɛmbɛɾi ˈvjaðɾɪt]
major third ("five's quarter")

nisteri fimbit
[ˈnɪstɛri ˈfɪmbɪt]
minor third ("six's fifth")

diviri ónit
[ˈdiviɾi øːnɪt]
major second ("nine's eighth")

By the end of the week I want to have words for the 12 notes of Western music and some words for scales and chords, and explore some things that might make a Msérsca approach to music theory a bit different.
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äreo wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:51 pm Lexember 4: Music Week begins!

séar, séari
[sɛːɾ ˈsɛːɾi]
sound, pitch, tone

occea, occur
[ˈɔcːa ˈɔcːʏɾ]
sound, noise

pentemir
[ˈpɛntɛmɪɾ]
to play music ("to give of the hands")

Some consonant intervals:

impressat or stivax
[ˈɪmpɾɛsːat, ˈstivaks]
octave (shortening of impres issigat gone back to the first or "double")

braveri meath
[ˈbɾavɛɾi mjaθ]
perfect fifth ("three's half")

vdatrari birvit
[ˈvdatɾaɾi ˈbɪɾvɪt]
perfect fourth ("four's third")

fémberi veadrit
[ˈfjɛmbɛɾi ˈvjaðɾɪt]
major third ("five's quarter")

nisteri fimbit
[ˈnɪstɛri ˈfɪmbɪt]
minor third ("six's fifth")

diviri ónit
[ˈdiviɾi øːnɪt]
major second ("nine's eighth")

By the end of the week I want to have words for the 12 notes of Western music and some words for scales and chords, and explore some things that might make a Msérsca approach to music theory a bit different.
I really like these derivations!

I also really like your lexicalisations of various Msérsca plurals, from other posts.
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sasasha wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:12 pm I really like these derivations!

I also really like your lexicalisations of various Msérsca plurals, from other posts.
Thanks!
Imralu wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 8:29 pm Dagadag is onomatopoeic of drums and, in Balog culture, most music consists of drumming and rhythmic chanting.
This is a better onomatopoeia for drums, especially a snare, than parum-pa-pum-pum IMO
kodé wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:01 pm Σαμχαλης
wum/ ψυμ (verb) “have fun”

“I’m having fun with some friends”
Ιο ψυμπθα ιεδα χοσερ
/io šwum-tha ie-da khos-er/
I fun-pres anim-dat friend-pl
Is this an IE-lang?
Hallow XIII wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:33 am Lexember 2. Existentials
i, to be, of yet uncertain grammatical function;
ʃai, ʃeː, become, cease to be.
parʃai, evolve, change.
niː, to be at.
pe:i, to be like.
lei, to be in.
rui, be under.
ŋoi, to be together with. This becomes the basic locative verb in some descendants, leading to compound derivations like leŋoi "be in" etc.
I like these, and I especially like verbal locatives. parʃai in particular sounds like what it means.
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Lexember 3. Moving

iˀk, to go. and its reduplicant ikiˀk to go (and come back), to walk around.
uːiˀk, iːˀk to leave.
niːˀk, to arrive.
ŋoniːˀk, to come.
ŋoikiˀk, to accompany.
leiˀk, to enter.
pariˀk, to exit.
Mbtrtcgf qxah bdej bkska kidabh n ñstbwdj spa.
Ogñwdf n spa bdej bruoh kiñabh ñbtzmieb n qxah.
Qiegf. Qiegf. Qiegf. Qiegf. Qiegf. Qiegf. Qiegf.
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