The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

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Linguoboy wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 12:51 pm stent

I was amused to hear my late husband use /stɪnt/ because I assumed it was a pronunciation he picked up from my pin-pen merged speech, but recently I saw a non-native speaker use the spelling "stint", which makes me wonder if the variant with /ɪ/ is more widespread than I thought.
The pin-pen merger is so alien to the dialect here that I have a hard time picturing stent being pronounced with /ɪ/ - I firmly pronounce it as /stɛnt/ [sʲtʲɜ̃ʔ(t)].

However, the shift of /ɪl/ [ɪ̈ɯ̯]~[ɪ̈ːɯ̯]~[ɘɯ̯]~[ɘːɯ̯] to /ɛl/ [ɜɤ̯]~[ɜːɤ̯] is another story... it was seriously until I was well into adulthood before I realized that most people didn't pronounce Illinois with /ɛl/, and I am very familiar with /ɛl/ in milk -- that is how my mother has always pronounced it and how I would probably pronounce it if I wasn't thinking-- even though if you asked me to pronounce the word I would probably pronounce it with /ɪl/ just under the influence of Standard English.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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Linguoboy wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 12:51 pmI was amused to hear my late husband use /stɪnt/ because I assumed it was a pronunciation he picked up from my pin-pen merged speech, but recently I saw a non-native speaker use the spelling "stint", which makes me wonder if the variant with /ɪ/ is more widespread than I thought.
Could be contamination with the more common word "stint", assuming it's a homonym?


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jal wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 2:58 am
Linguoboy wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 12:51 pmI was amused to hear my late husband use /stɪnt/ because I assumed it was a pronunciation he picked up from my pin-pen merged speech, but recently I saw a non-native speaker use the spelling "stint", which makes me wonder if the variant with /ɪ/ is more widespread than I thought.
Could be contamination with the more common word "stint", assuming it's a homonym?
I was wondering that. But it could also just be a one-off for that particular speaker (perhaps he also learned the word from another pin-pen merged speaker), which is why I'm trying to gather more data.
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Linguoboy wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 1:12 pm
jal wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 2:58 am
Linguoboy wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 12:51 pmI was amused to hear my late husband use /stɪnt/ because I assumed it was a pronunciation he picked up from my pin-pen merged speech, but recently I saw a non-native speaker use the spelling "stint", which makes me wonder if the variant with /ɪ/ is more widespread than I thought.
Could be contamination with the more common word "stint", assuming it's a homonym?
I was wondering that. But it could also just be a one-off for that particular speaker (perhaps he also learned the word from another pin-pen merged speaker), which is why I'm trying to gather more data.
My guess, if he wasn't natively pin-pen-merged overall, is indeed that he learned that particular word from someone who was.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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