Pretistelen Mega-Project

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vergil
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Pretistelen Mega-Project

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Finally finished this beast, one of the daughter langs of a conlang I've been working on for some time.

Thoughts? I'm mostly worried about its differences with its original language, Pretistelen (link in the doc): I'm good with sound changes, but not really with morphosyntactic changes.
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I just glanced through, but it looks very well organized. I'll give some of my thoughts.

<oy> can be either /ø/ or /oy/. Is this intentional?

Some of the diphthongs are quite awkward, especially /oy/ and /ay/. But I guess some language has to have them. ;)

Are doubled consonants geminates?

In the morphology section you could maybe explain a little more what the different things are used for. For example the intensifier, what is that really?

When doing interlinears, you could add a one more line between the first and second, where you divide the conwords into their constituent morphemes.

I think the words themselves are generally quite pretty or interesting. My favorites are ethyr and tértértolostan
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Qwynegold wrote:Some of the diphthongs are quite awkward, especially /oy/ and /ay/. But I guess some language has to have them. ;)
German has /ɔʏ/.

Also, good stuff! I'd like to see more of it with more detail.
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mèþru wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:42 pmGerman has /ɔʏ/.
Oh, that's right. Ew.

Btw, do you happen to know of e.g. any YouTube clip where I can listen to people using this diphthong? Because all I ever hear is [oi]. :?
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Pretty much anyone speaking German Standard German without regionalisms will do, as will the German voice in Google Translate
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Thanks for the feedback!
Yes, doubled consonants are supposed to be geminates. [ø] will probly get represented as <oý> or <oŷ> (depending on length), but on the other hand [ay], [ey], and [oy] have virtually never actually come up (at least so far), so such a change may not be necessary.
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mèþru wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:55 pm Pretty much anyone speaking German Standard German without regionalisms will do, as will the German voice in Google Translate
Really? Huh, that explains it then.
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I like this, but wow are the verbs highly inflected - Ancient Greek but worse! Very well set out too. I wonder if the necessitive mood is ripe for merger with the subjunctive if the only difference is vowel length?
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