Zompist Bboard Again

Travis B. wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:15 pm One of the candidates for Supreme Court here in Wisconsin, Janet Protasiewicz, has her last name pronounced /ˌproʊtəˈseɪwɪts/ most commonly here. While the /wɪts/ pronunciation of -wicz is not unusual here - I knew someone from elementary school through high school who pronounced it in her name that very same way, what gets me is the pronunciation of -sie- as /seɪ/ - I would have expected /ʃɛ/ or /sɛ/ given the typical pronunciation of Polish names here. Any thoughts?

Darren wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 12:36 am Even worse, there's an australian politican called Palaszczuk who calls herself /pæləʃeɪ̯/.

Travis B. wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:52 am

Darren wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 12:36 am Even worse, there's an australian politican called Palaszczuk who calls herself /pæləʃeɪ̯/.

Wut?

anteallach wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:05 pm

Travis B. wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:52 am

Darren wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 12:36 am Even worse, there's an australian politican called Palaszczuk who calls herself /pæləʃeɪ̯/.

Wut?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annastacia_Palaszczuk

This article says it's because her father was a teacher and the original pronunciation of his name was deemed to hard for the children in his school to say, so they came up with something "easier", though you'd have thought that they could find something which achieved that while having a less bizarre relationship between spelling and pronunciation.

Zju wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:54 pm Has anyone noticed a realisation of /u/ as [ʉ]? Could this lead to u > y in the future?

Zju wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:54 pm Has anyone noticed a realisation of /u/ as [ʉ]? Could this lead to u > y in the future?

Zju wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:54 pm Has anyone noticed a realisation of /u/ as [ʉ]? Could this lead to u > y in the future?

bradrn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:44 am

Zju wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:54 pm Has anyone noticed a realisation of /u/ as [ʉ]? Could this lead to u > y in the future?

Yes, this is the case in my speech, and standard in Australian English in general. It’s a pretty common sound change in general.

Raphael wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 9:21 am What's the meaning and origin of the term "wag"? Not in the sense of the acronyms "WAGs" for "wifes and girlfriends", but in the sense of quotes like "some wag joked that [...]"?

Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 9:37 am It can mean something like "jokester", though I haven't heard it in ages. I mostly associate it with this (rather morbid) sonnet. The etymology is apparently somewhat obscure, but it may descend either from the verb, or waghalter, apparently meaning "gallows-bird, one destined to hang".

Creyeditor wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 4:37 pm Maybe its similar in use to 'Angestellter'?

Raphael wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 12:26 pm Where, exactly, is the line between batter and dough? I used to think it's simply, "If it's for cake, it's batter, and if it's for bread, it's dough". But now I've got the impression that there are some cakes whose starting goo is called "dough" and not "batter", too.

bradrn wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:01 pm

Raphael wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 12:26 pm Where, exactly, is the line between batter and dough? I used to think it's simply, "If it's for cake, it's batter, and if it's for bread, it's dough". But now I've got the impression that there are some cakes whose starting goo is called "dough" and not "batter", too.

I’d say batter is liquid, and dough is mostly solid.