The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Rounin Ryuuji
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Both [sʌb.səˌkwɛnʔ.li:~sʌb.səˌkwɛnʔ.lɪ] and [sʌb'siː.kwəʔ.liː~sʌb'siː.kwəʔ.lɪ]; which tends to depend on how well it fits into the cadence of the rest of the utterance.
- quinterbeck
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Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Does anyone in any dialect say [bi˞d] or [biɹd], etc., or is this an entirely spelling pronunciation? I swear I heard it today somewhere online.
/j/ <j>
Ɂaləɂahina asəkipaɂə ileku omkiroro salka.
Loɂ ɂerleku asəɂulŋusikraɂə seləɂahina əɂətlahɂun əiŋɂiɂŋa.
Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ.
Ɂaləɂahina asəkipaɂə ileku omkiroro salka.
Loɂ ɂerleku asəɂulŋusikraɂə seləɂahina əɂətlahɂun əiŋɂiɂŋa.
Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ.
Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Scottish English perhaps?
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
[ˈsʌb̥sɘkwɘntli], [ˈsʌb̥sɘkwɘnʔli]
That's how I pronounce "beard".
Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
I was for some reason thinking of "bird" myself.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
I'm pretty sure the word I heard was bird.
/j/ <j>
Ɂaləɂahina asəkipaɂə ileku omkiroro salka.
Loɂ ɂerleku asəɂulŋusikraɂə seləɂahina əɂətlahɂun əiŋɂiɂŋa.
Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ.
Ɂaləɂahina asəkipaɂə ileku omkiroro salka.
Loɂ ɂerleku asəɂulŋusikraɂə seləɂahina əɂətlahɂun əiŋɂiɂŋa.
Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ.
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"son"
Just noticed Wiktionary claims this word can be pronounced with the LOT vowel, instead of the usual STRUT. Who pronounces it with LOT?
Just noticed Wiktionary claims this word can be pronounced with the LOT vowel, instead of the usual STRUT. Who pronounces it with LOT?
- quinterbeck
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Was it by any chance this bit of video? I think the intent was humorous
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One of my coworkers pronounces directory as [dʑʁ̩ˤːˈʁˤɜʔktɕʁ̩ˤːʁˤi(ː)] - does anyone else have similar pronunciations?
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Yes, that is an affricated and palatalized /d/ (and an affricated and palatalized /t/, which is much more common here); as for the /r/s, that is just because syllabic /r/ before a vowel is always paired with a non-syllabic /r/ in the onset of the following syllable IMD.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Indeed, that has likely been it.quinterbeck wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:15 amWas it by any chance this bit of video? I think the intent was humorous
/j/ <j>
Ɂaləɂahina asəkipaɂə ileku omkiroro salka.
Loɂ ɂerleku asəɂulŋusikraɂə seləɂahina əɂətlahɂun əiŋɂiɂŋa.
Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ.
Ɂaləɂahina asəkipaɂə ileku omkiroro salka.
Loɂ ɂerleku asəɂulŋusikraɂə seləɂahina əɂətlahɂun əiŋɂiɂŋa.
Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ.
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I have something like [dɪˈɹɛktʃəɹɪ] varying with forms where the third vowel is elided. I suspect this comes from the compressed form /dɪˈrɛktri/ being subject to regular affrication in the /tr/ cluster, and then it spreading to the uncompressed form. Something similar could I suppose happen at the beginning of the word too, but it doesn't for me.
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I have hypothesized that as being a source of the affrication in /tər/ IMD... except the problem with that hypothesis is that /tr/ is unpalatalized, i.e. the /t/ in /tr/ is [tʃ] but the /t/ in /tər/ is [tɕ]. Also, in some varieties there are words that imply that a compressed form is not at work, e.g. yes[tɕ]erday, sis[tɕ]er, or mis[tɕ]er (at least in how I pronounced it while growing up, as in Mister Rogers).anteallach wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 4:26 pmI have something like [dɪˈɹɛktʃəɹɪ] varying with forms where the third vowel is elided. I suspect this comes from the compressed form /dɪˈrɛktri/ being subject to regular affrication in the /tr/ cluster, and then it spreading to the uncompressed form. Something similar could I suppose happen at the beginning of the word too, but it doesn't for me.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
- Rounin Ryuuji
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I don't suppose it's a regular shift of /st/ > [stɕ]?Travis B. wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 4:41 pm I have hypothesized that as being a source of the affrication in /tər/ IMD... except the problem with that hypothesis is that /tr/ is unpalatalized, i.e. the /t/ in /tr/ is [tʃ] but the /t/ in /tər/ is [tɕ]. Also, in some varieties there are words that imply that a compressed form is not at work, e.g. yes[tɕ]erday, sis[tɕ]er, or mis[tɕ]er (at least in how I pronounced it while growing up, as in Mister Rogers).
Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
The regular realization of /st/ IMD is [sʲtʲ], except word-finally when monomorphemic, where then it is a simple unpalatalized [s] when not pronounced carefully. /stər/ is regularly realized as [sʲtʲʁ̩ˤ], but in certain words such as these non-prevocalic /stər/ may be [sʲtɕʁ̩ˤ], [ɕtɕʁ̩ˤ], [ɕːʁ̩ˤ], or even [ɕʁ̩ˤ]. Considering that many words IMD have [tɕʁ̩ˤ] for prevocalic /tər/ or [sʲtɕʁ̩ˤ] or [ɕtɕʁ̩ˤ] for prevocalic /stər/, (e.g. history, factory, refractory, and other -tory words, restaurant, etc.).Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 6:43 pmI don't suppose it's a regular shift of /st/ > [stɕ]?Travis B. wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 4:41 pm I have hypothesized that as being a source of the affrication in /tər/ IMD... except the problem with that hypothesis is that /tr/ is unpalatalized, i.e. the /t/ in /tr/ is [tʃ] but the /t/ in /tər/ is [tɕ]. Also, in some varieties there are words that imply that a compressed form is not at work, e.g. yes[tɕ]erday, sis[tɕ]er, or mis[tɕ]er (at least in how I pronounced it while growing up, as in Mister Rogers).
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Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
- WarpedWartWars
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Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Kalamata as in the olive.
tɑ tɑ tɑ tɑ θiθɾ eɾloθ tɑ moew θerts olɑrk siθe
of of of of death abyss of moew kingdom sand witch-PLURAL
The witches of the desert of the kingdom of Moew of the Abyss of Death
tɑ toɾose koɾot tsɑx
of apple-PLURAL magic cold
cold magic of apples
of of of of death abyss of moew kingdom sand witch-PLURAL
The witches of the desert of the kingdom of Moew of the Abyss of Death
tɑ toɾose koɾot tsɑx
of apple-PLURAL magic cold
cold magic of apples