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Re: Lexicon Building
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:44 am
by Yalensky
Pabappa wrote:next: petroleum, gasoline
The closest I can get to gasoline in my conworld is Keševan
gúržane 'fuel', which includes wood and coal and oil--anything you might want to burn. From
gurža, which at one point meant the same thing but since then narrowing only to mean firewood. Ultimately from a root meaning 'burn'.
Next word: balcony
Re: Lexicon Building
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:41 pm
by äreo
Yalensky wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:44 amNext word: balcony
Msérsca:
prendella balcony, porch
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to shatter
Re: Lexicon Building
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:17 am
by Yalensky
äreo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:41 pm
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to shatter
The Keševan verb for 'shatter' is
udebesse, udebeno, udebenta, the principal parts being respectively the infinitive, the singular 3rd person present, and the passive participle. From
ude-, a prefix meaning 'in the center of', 'surrounded', or even 'totally' or 'done violently', with the verb
besse, beno, benta, which simply means 'break'. The verb
besse comes from Rasal
bénnase 'split or break in two' (the first syllable is cognate to K.
beš 'two').
Next word: bribe
Re: Lexicon Building
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:45 pm
by masako
Yalensky wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:17 amnext:
bribe
Kala:
tlisua - bribe; bribery
next:
to defect; to be disloyal
Re: Lexicon Building
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 3:02 pm
by Darren
Gìsułagiese:
giavvere no' ggota legałutate /dʒavˈvɛrə nəg ˈgɔta ləˌgaɰɨˈtatə/ Literally "to have not a drop of loyalty;" to be disloyal.
Next word: ante meridian; a.m.
Re: Lexicon Building
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:35 am
by hwhatting
Darren wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2019 3:02 pmNext word:
ante meridiem;
a.m.
Tautisca:
pró medídinié "before noon"; it's not used in indicating hours, as hours are counted from sunrise to sunset only.
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honey
Re: Lexicon Building
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 3:37 am
by Yalensky
hwhatting wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:35 am
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honey
Keševan
velma 'honey', from Rasal
vélama.
Calintese
yovo 'honey'.
Next word: ruby
Re: Lexicon Building
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:56 pm
by äreo
Msérsca:
círsco literally blushy or little red one
círpos, círipos literally blushstone
Both of these can mean ruby, though the first might also be used to refer affectionately to someone’s (blushing) face, or to a ladybug, or to anything small and red. They are related to cír blushing, red, redness and círir to blush, to be red
next word: thanksgiving
Re: Lexicon Building
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:48 pm
by Pedant
äreo wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:56 pm
next word:
thanksgiving
Qumor:
nunk’eli, nunk’el- “thanksgiving day, harvest celebration” (from Proto-Qumor *
k’añil)
Icemannic Dialect 17:
tokaitilajukë “thanksgiving day, day of remembering” (from Proto-Icemannic *
tuakaitilaju-kia “it-makes-us-cyclically-remember day”)
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turkey, large bird eaten ceremonially
Re: Lexicon Building
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:44 am
by masako
Pedant wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:48 pm
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turkey
Kala:
hinti - turkey
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(be) damp; (be) moist
Re: Lexicon Building
Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:29 am
by hwhatting
masako wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:44 am
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(be) damp; (be) moist
Tautisca:
mudrus "wet, moist"
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to bother
Re: Lexicon Building
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:08 pm
by Pabappa
hwhatting wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:29 am
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to bother
I took the "harass, annoy" sense of the word here rather than the auxiliary verb sense.
Baywatch:
lemenē , from Proto-Dreamlandic
liamia niā.
nesse , from Proto-Dreamlandic
niā ćća.
Gold:
tʷăda "to harass unwanted people"
hʷùtə "a team of bullies harassing a small child"
These words combine to give Play
futetuaa , but this is a dead-end word that does not survive in Poswa (and probably not Pabappa either).
Poswa:
I already have
nusa "annoy" and
šaža "to annoy; biting insect; to react aggressively" as well as several words for harassment, though most are listed as being specifically words for sexual harassment. There is also
pappupa "dog; sadistic abuse, harassment". I don't hate dogs, and neither do the Poswobs as a whole, but this isn't the primary word for dog. Indeed, English has something very similar:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dog#Verb
Lastly there are reflexive verbs for "irritable" to indicate someone being bothered by an inanimate object or phenomenon. I dont really need to add any words here, although I think that /šaža/ should probably be turned into a compound like
nuššaža since it's homophonous with other things.
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latitude; to move east-west
Re: Lexicon Building
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:36 am
by äreo
Pabappa wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:08 pmnext:
latitude; to move east-west
Msérsca:
Sem is east and
cal is west;
verren is a word meaning
follow and can be used to refer to movement east and west, commonly in the compound
mrótoverren to follow the Sun.
Semmecal is the Equator, and
verrevíli “follow-lines” are lines of latitude.
next:
eggnog / ponche crema / advocaat / whatever your equivalent is
Re: Lexicon Building
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:08 am
by masako
äreo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:36 am
next:
eggnog / ponche crema / advocaat / whatever your equivalent is
Kala:
next:
yesterday (
the day before today)
Re: Lexicon Building
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:19 am
by Nortaneous
Amqoli: phoshel [ˈpxoʃeɫ], unanalyzable even in Proto-Amqolic; but this is frequently replaced with lgqomri [ˈlɢʁomʝi], clearly from earlier *lagó-muqri with metathesis of [ʁ]; cf. lgortu 'last night', ratu 'night'
Gejaehl Hlu: kwinyjjim [kwiɲˈʄim] < Proto-Hluic krun e cim 'sunrise'; the Bor vocalic simplification of non-initial syllables gives instead krunyjjim [kɻuɲˈʄim] ~ [kwɚɲˈʄim]. Thing kvurnchīm [kfɚȵȶim˧˨] is of course cognate; ezafe constructions typically take initial stress and mid-falling tone.
Next: drum (or some specific type thereof)
Re: Lexicon Building
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:04 pm
by karaluuebru
Nortaneous wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:19 am
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drum (or some specific type thereof)
Tereshi I
bibinnaa
1) drums. Transparent derivation of
bibina 'strike, beat repeatedly'
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whetstone or
hammerstone, tool used to sharpen another tool/create another blade
Re: Lexicon Building
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:48 am
by masako
karaluuebru wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:04 pm
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whetstone or hammerstone, tool used to sharpen another tool/create another blade
Kala:
next:
to flow directly; direct current (D.C.)
Re: Lexicon Building
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:37 pm
by Pabappa
masako wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:48 am
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to flow directly; direct current (D.C.)
Im out of practice so there might be some errors here.
Poswa:
wintša pembi "one-way energy"
wimpafratatša "asymmetrical indoor energy"
Pabappa:
wabu popup papemblea "one-way placenta energy" (if power cords are likened to umbilical cords, power outlets can be likened to placentas)
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next:
menu, list of choices
Re: Lexicon Building
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 7:20 pm
by Yalensky
Pabappa wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:37 pm
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menu, list of choices
In Keševan, I suppose a menu could be
lučiûga fetma or
lučiûga lengam which both mean 'list of dishes'. The word for list is literally 'through-writing' and the words for dish are respectively a borrowing from my conlang Calintese ('board' > 'plate') and a derivation from Keševan
lepse 'offer, give out'.
Next word: vowel
Re: Lexicon Building
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:25 pm
by Nortaneous
The Zzyxwqnp linguistic tradition is a little difficult, owing to the phonological peculiarities of the language. A trzpye kqpmq /tʂʰə̀jə̄ kʰwàmāɴ/ (lit. 'carrier sound') is a type of sound that can only be syllabic, and a trzpye chan /tʂʰə̀jə̄ tjāɴ/ (lit. 'load sound') is a type of sound that can only be non-syllabic, but then there are the trzpye tonpkzt /tʂʰə̀jə̄ tʰòɴkʰə́/ (lit. 'intermediate sound'), which can be either.
However! There are actually two kinds of tonpkzt: the ggqtkqpmq /ŋgwákʰwàmāɴ/ and the ggqtchan /ŋgwátʰjāɴ/, or "carrier-like" and "load-like". The tonpkztye ggqtkqpmq can bear most trzpye chan, but the tonpkztye ggqtchan can bear only a few. So the chan are divided into chanye bbqx /tʰjāɴjə̄ mbâ/ and chanye pyt /tʰjājə pʰź̩/ ("light" and "heavy"): the chanye bbqx can be borne by (*only* by) tonpkztye ggqtchan, whereas the chanye pyt can't.
So the Zzyxwqnp sound inventory, in the native phonological tradition (here given in IPA because it's simpler than dealing with the romanization), is:
Kqpmq: [a ɒ e ə o]
Chanye bbqx: [ʔ h]
Chanye pyt: [pʰ p mb f tʰ t nd tsʰ ts ndz s tʂʰ tʂ ndʐ ʂ tɕʰ tɕ ndʑ ɕ kʰ k ŋg x]
Tonpkztye ggqtkqpmq: [w j v z ʐ ʑ]
Tonpkztye ggqtchan: [m n ȵ ŋ l]
Since the field of phonology in Zzxzzyx exists primarily for accent training for rhetoricians, there is not much interest in the minority languages of the empire; however, fricated vowels and syllabic nasals are not uncommon in Vengic languages, so even that wouldn't do them much good. The closest they could get to the concept of "vowel" is kqpmq and tonpkztye ggqtkqpmq... but, a Ziwan rhetorician might ask, why not also the tonpkztye ggqtchan? After all, there are words like pmx [ʔm̩̂] and jjahn [ndʑān̥n̩̄], and some rustics even insist on trying to make the ggqtchan bear chanye pyt, and pronounce these tmx [tʰm̩̂] and jjasn [ndʑāsn̩̄]!
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