Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:43 pm
Well, "jetzt" meaning "now" can be used in a nominalized forms "das Jetzt" or "das Hier und Jetzt". Cognate to English "yet", IINM.
That makes sense.Kuchigakatai wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 12:39 amMaybe it's "against" in the sense of "being in front of (against) someone as an obstacle". That is, the present is the thing right in front of you, "againstward" you.
KathTheDragon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 3:12 amConsulting the German dictionary I use as a reference all the time, gegen has way more meanings than just "against".
These are true.Moose-tache wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 2:49 pmThe common thread there seems to be being in front of something, which could be related to the present pretty easily.
Huh, I don't think I was aware of any of this.Creyeditor wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:43 pmWell, "jetzt" meaning "now" can be used in a nominalized forms "das Jetzt" or "das Hier und Jetzt". Cognate to English "yet", IINM.
I think these are a pretty common in-group phenomenon. One I was just thinking of last night: two of my friends like to insert extra t's into certain words, e.g. "Tina Turner" > "Tinta Turnter".
I wonder. This was not a milieu where I'd expect much familiarity with Yinglish (a private Catholic high school) and it wasn't extended to /sm/ nor was it accompanied by other Yiddishisms.
You have this as a joke‽ I find that surprising — for me, this is just my normal speech: [ˈlɪɾuˈpʰiːpʰu], [əˈniːdᶻə tˢæiˀk məˈpʰiʊ̆z]. I wonder how this variation arose for you, especially if it’s not normal where you live.
Here, people vocalize their coda and intervocalic /l/'s almost invariably.
Where I live, it's not usual except among speakers of AAVE. According to my friend, she had a cousin who spoke this way who she used to imitate. One day we saw some children playing and she said "Oh look, litto peopo!" and then felt she had to explain why she said it like that. Afterwards, it became an in-joke. (Incidentally, she pronounced "little" in this case with [tʰ] rather than her usual [ɾ]. I don't know if this was also in imitation of her cousin of if there was some other motivation.)
I guess this is pretty common. There are language games like Pig Latin. There's another called Zargari in Iran where, for every CV sequence, you add [z] + the same vowel, so for example, chetori? 'how are you?' becomes chezetozorizi?
Begak? An Aslian language? (Semai? Jahai?) Hua?bradrn wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:41 pm Quick language identification question: I seem to remember reading about a language, probably Papuan, with pervasive multiple infixation (and possibly nested infixation as well). However, I can’t seem to find it now. Does anyone here happen to know which language that could be?
None of those, sorry.Nortaneous wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:54 pmBegak? An Aslian language? (Semai? Jahai?) Hua?bradrn wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:41 pm Quick language identification question: I seem to remember reading about a language, probably Papuan, with pervasive multiple infixation (and possibly nested infixation as well). However, I can’t seem to find it now. Does anyone here happen to know which language that could be?
Yeri/Yapunda? Yagaria?bradrn wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:41 pm Quick language identification question: I seem to remember reading about a language, probably Papuan, with pervasive multiple infixation (and possibly nested infixation as well). However, I can’t seem to find it now. Does anyone here happen to know which language that could be?
Not Yeri. Yagaria was already suggested (under the name Hua).Vijay wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:28 pmYeri/Yapunda? Yagaria?bradrn wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:41 pm Quick language identification question: I seem to remember reading about a language, probably Papuan, with pervasive multiple infixation (and possibly nested infixation as well). However, I can’t seem to find it now. Does anyone here happen to know which language that could be?